I'm not forcing anything.  You guys are just being stubborn.

And here we go.

It's a yes or no answer.  If you don't believe then you're atheists.  I don't think I can explain it much simpler.

And when you ask me this yes or no question, my answer will always be 'maybe'. That's my final decision. I have no good reason to think one way or another regarding such an intangible concept. Demanding that I do isn't going to make me any more inclined to choose black or white.

Quote from: Plotmaster | Fluid Druid on February 28, 2015, 10:35:11 PM

Quote from: Sly Instinct on February 28, 2015, 10:28:47 PM

I'm not forcing anything.  You guys are just being stubborn.

And here we go.

Quote

It's a yes or no answer.  If you don't believe then you're atheists.  I don't think I can explain it much simpler.

And when you ask me this yes or no question, my answer will always be 'maybe'. That's my final decision. I have no good reason to think one way or another regarding such an intangible concept. Demanding that I do isn't going to make me any more inclined to choose black or white.

Listen here you special snowflake aka Jaden Smith, atheism is the lack of belief, so if you do not have a positive belief in a deity you are atheist, more specifically an agnostic atheist.

Except I'm not atheist. I hereby declare that I'm not, seeing as how it's my decision to make and not yours, that I am not atheist.

I also declare that I do not actively follow any particular faith.

Instead, I look at both sides of the argument, nod once, and turn around to leave, calmly giving the finger as I strut away.

Quote from: Plotmaster | Fluid Druid on February 28, 2015, 10:43:00 PM

Quote from: Sly Instinct on February 28, 2015, 10:40:06 PM

Quote from: Plotmaster | Fluid Druid on February 28, 2015, 10:35:11 PM

Quote from: Sly Instinct on February 28, 2015, 10:28:47 PM

I'm not forcing anything.  You guys are just being stubborn.

And here we go.

Quote

It's a yes or no answer.  If you don't believe then you're atheists.  I don't think I can explain it much simpler.

And when you ask me this yes or no question, my answer will always be 'maybe'. That's my final decision. I have no good reason to think one way or another regarding such an intangible concept. Demanding that I do isn't going to make me any more inclined to choose black or white.

Listen here you special snowflake aka Jaden Smith, atheism is the lack of belief, so if you do not have a positive belief in a deity you are atheist, more specifically an agnostic atheist.

Except I'm not atheist. I hereby declare that I'm not, seeing as how it's my decision to make and not yours, that I am not atheist.

I also declare that I do not actively follow any particular faith.

Instead, I look at both sides of the argument, nod once, and turn around to leave, calmly giving the finger as I strut away.

That's cool snowflake, but then you're just avoiding the question.  You can say you're not, but if you don't believe in any deities then by definition, whether you wanna accept it or not, you are atheist.

Except I'm not atheist. I hereby declare that I'm not, seeing as how it's my decision to make and not yours.

It's remarkable that I have to repeat myself even after I dumbed it down to the elementary level.

Quote from: Plotmaster | Fluid Druid on February 28, 2015, 10:43:00 PM

Quote from: Sly Instinct on February 28, 2015, 10:40:06 PM

Quote from: Plotmaster | Fluid Druid on February 28, 2015, 10:35:11 PM

Quote from: Sly Instinct on February 28, 2015, 10:28:47 PM

I'm not forcing anything.  You guys are just being stubborn.

And here we go.

Quote

It's a yes or no answer.  If you don't believe then you're atheists.  I don't think I can explain it much simpler.

And when you ask me this yes or no question, my answer will always be 'maybe'. That's my final decision. I have no good reason to think one way or another regarding such an intangible concept. Demanding that I do isn't going to make me any more inclined to choose black or white.

Listen here you special snowflake aka Jaden Smith, atheism is the lack of belief, so if you do not have a positive belief in a deity you are atheist, more specifically an agnostic atheist.

Except I'm not atheist. I hereby declare that I'm not, seeing as how it's my decision to make and not yours, that I am not atheist.

I also declare that I do not actively follow any particular faith.

Instead, I look at both sides of the argument, nod once, and turn around to leave, calmly giving the finger as I strut away.

That's cool snowflake, but then you're just avoiding the question.  You can say you're not, but if you don't believe in any deities then by definition, whether you wanna accept it or not, you are atheist.

Heyo, I don't know what the fuck is going on here, but it's amusing to see shit being flung around over stupid trivial stuff. So I've a question for you.

What would you call this?

The belief that there is no god or deity, but in some form there is a higher existence and mind as a result of existence itself. Existence itself is essentially a collective intelligence of everything that exists. It's the universe itself. But it is not a god. It could be described as a god, but not in the sense that most people view a god as being a selective being focusing only on human beings.

Because as far as I know, there's no religion for that. No official gathering for it.

But at the same time, it's not atheism.

Quote from: Plotmaster | Fluid Druid on February 28, 2015, 10:48:25 PM

Quote from: Sly Instinct on February 28, 2015, 10:46:37 PM

Quote from: Plotmaster | Fluid Druid on February 28, 2015, 10:43:00 PM

Quote from: Sly Instinct on February 28, 2015, 10:40:06 PM

Quote from: Plotmaster | Fluid Druid on February 28, 2015, 10:35:11 PM

Quote from: Sly Instinct on February 28, 2015, 10:28:47 PM

I'm not forcing anything.  You guys are just being stubborn.

And here we go.

Quote

It's a yes or no answer.  If you don't believe then you're atheists.  I don't think I can explain it much simpler.

And when you ask me this yes or no question, my answer will always be 'maybe'. That's my final decision. I have no good reason to think one way or another regarding such an intangible concept. Demanding that I do isn't going to make me any more inclined to choose black or white.

Listen here you special snowflake aka Jaden Smith, atheism is the lack of belief, so if you do not have a positive belief in a deity you are atheist, more specifically an agnostic atheist.

Except I'm not atheist. I hereby declare that I'm not, seeing as how it's my decision to make and not yours, that I am not atheist.

I also declare that I do not actively follow any particular faith.

Instead, I look at both sides of the argument, nod once, and turn around to leave, calmly giving the finger as I strut away.

That's cool snowflake, but then you're just avoiding the question.  You can say you're not, but if you don't believe in any deities then by definition, whether you wanna accept it or not, you are atheist.

Quote

Except I'm not atheist. I hereby declare that I'm not, seeing as how it's my decision to make and not yours.

It's remarkable that I have to repeat myself even after I dumbed it down to the elementary level.

And again, you saying your not doesn't make it true.  It's about as simple as a white person refusing to acknowledge their skin tone.  By definition they are still white.

The mistake you're making is thinking it's a tangible question. It's not like asking 'do you think the sky is blue, or red?', where there's tangible evidence that the sky is the former and not the latter.

Instead, it's like asking 'do you prefer blue, or red?'. That is, it's not a tangible question in which evidence can be presented. In which case, answering 'I'm not a fan of either' is a wholly viable response, and you're insane if you think you have the right to force me to choose one just because my answer gets your panties in a knot.

Personally I don't understand why we constantly have to bring religion up here.

I think it's quite obvious where most of you stand, that being the "huehuehue look at the unenlightened religious neanderthals huehue" stance. We get it. You don't have to keep shoving it in everyone's face.

Also, I hope you guys comprehend how utterly pretentious and all around unpleasant you come across as when you create entire threads based around mocking those with religious beliefs, and similar activities. Hell, you even act like this to Rocket at times, one of the most tolerant and kind members of this community.

Some people have a belief in a higher moral authority. Fuck them, right??

Grow up.

I genuinely don't mind people who are religious. I have a problem with people who tell me I'm wrong because I don't believe in God, or push that (x) is wrong because God/The Bible.

SIT DOWN KIDS

AGNOSTICISM = EPISTEMOLOGICAL VIEWPOINT THAT STATEMENTS RELATED TO GOD'S EXISTENCE ARE NOT TENTATIVELY [OR PERMANENTLY] EXTANT WITH A DETERMINABLE TRUTH VALUE

ATHEISM = METAPHYSICAL REJECTION OF BELIEF IN DEITIES