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It's almost like awkward shit happens in life and then you get over it.

I'm the most socially anxious person on this forum—I can't even order food—and I understand that.

Obviously we're two different people who work differently, but shit, that's such a frustrating mentality.

ill make sure its not awkward when i come to michigan

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>"irl"

Fuck me dead, I hope this dies soon.


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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
It's almost like awkward shit happens in life and then you get over it.
but you do realize that awkward shit happening to you and intentionally putting yourself in awkward shit are two different things right

Because choosing to hang out with someone from the internet is not the same thing as stuttering or mild paraphasia because you chose to enter the situation, not as a means to something else, but for specifically that purpose.


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>"irl"

Fuck me dead, I hope this dies soon.
it's just the fastest way to say it. I'm not typing out "in reality" or "in real life" on my phone keyboard every time just because I don't want to use acronyms.


 
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usually it lets you open up too about pets you have or had which you can use to segue into a bunch of other things


 
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Okay, but your example has me sitting next to someone because the reason I'm there has nothing to do with it. I'll hang out with people I don't know if friends are there, so that I can just chat with my friends if it starts getting awkward. I feel like it would be socially disfunctional to enter an awkward situation and continue to stay in it just because you don't want to leave it.

I wouldn't go out of my way to hang out with someone from the internet because it presents a situation that will become awkward without the out of just not replying anymore (which just makes things more awkward irl) or using a third party to change the dynamic.
You have to realize that this is just you thinking too much. This is the same sort of thinking that I use to scare myself out of driving. It's not rational.

The reason I'm so annoyed is because I used to think the same way as you five years ago, and it was fucking stupid and it sucked. Then I grew out of it because I realized how unhealthy it was to worry so much about what's "awkward" when no one actually cares.

There are plenty of reasons not to want to meet people you talk to on the Internet. Awkwardness is not one of them.

We could all be psychos and axe murderers, use that as an excuse.


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
small talk pro tip: ask about pets

its dear to people so they enjoy talking about it without coming off as weird or intrusive

even if they dont have any most people will just naturally talk about pets theyve always wanted or one they had as a child

usually it lets you open up too about pets you have or had which you can use to segue into a bunch of other things
I work in customer service, I know how to talk to strangers.

I just don't want to, because any potential awkwardness outweighs the benefit in a majority of cases.


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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
There are plenty of reasons not to want to meet people you talk to on the Internet. Awkwardness is not one of them.
How do you define "awkward", out of curiousity. I have a feeling that I'm using it much more liberally than you.


 
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>"irl"

Fuck me dead, I hope this dies soon.
it's just the fastest way to say it. I'm not typing out "in reality" or "in real life" on my phone keyboard every time just because I don't want to use acronyms.
No, it's not the acronym, you already know my feelings on this. The Internet is real life. That is my point. There is no distinction between "reality" and "the Internet." They are both the same. We're not a bunch of unreal NPCs on some MMORPG. We're real people, and to insinuate otherwise is incredibly insulting and grandma-esque.

The correct terms are "online" and "offline," or you could even say "in person."

Or you can continue to use incorrect language for the sake of convenience, that's your prerogative. I'm not the language police.

Just know that I consider it extremely insulting. I'm a real person, Aria.
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usually it lets you open up too about pets you have or had which you can use to segue into a bunch of other things
I work in customer service, I know how to talk to strangers.

I just don't want to, because any potential awkwardness outweighs the benefit in a majority of cases.

no offense but if you knew how to talk to strangers this wouldnt be an issue

representing a company in a professional manner where youre tasked with assisting customers who have a very narrow set of possible requests is different from meeting some young confident stud at the local public school on 2nd street to get a free meal
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I wanna go to a mall and whistle at jailbait with Detrich.

Lol there's plenty down here man. I legitimately don't want to know how many 17 year olds I've hit on.


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>"irl"

Fuck me dead, I hope this dies soon.
it's just the fastest way to say it. I'm not typing out "in reality" or "in real life" on my phone keyboard every time just because I don't want to use acronyms.
No, it's not the acronym, you already know my feelings on this. The Internet is real life. That is my point. There is no distinction between "reality" and "the Internet." They are both the same. We're not a bunch of unreal NPCs on some MMORPG. We're real people, and to insinuate otherwise is incredibly insulting and grandma-esque.

The correct terms are "online" and "offline," or you could even say "in person."

Or you can continue to use incorrect language for the sake of convenience, that's your prerogative. I'm not the language police.
I understand you views, I just can't agree. I put a lot of emphasis on sensory details when I interact with people; talking is sufficient because you can hear inflection and you aren't just assuming the cadence of their voice, but I'd much rather speak face to face. I don't get any of that over text, so I could not honestly but that level of interaction on the same level as sitting in the same room as a person and looking them in the eyes.


 
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There are plenty of reasons not to want to meet people you talk to on the Internet. Awkwardness is not one of them.
How do you define "awkward", out of curiousity. I have a feeling that I'm using it much more liberally than you.
Emotionally, it describes a feeling of mild to moderate social discomfort, similar to embarrassment but less extreme, typically associated with breaking some kind of social rule or moré and feeling ashamed about it (giving a high-five to someone who wasn't offering you one, )

People with social anxiety, such as you and I, tend to be prone to this feeling, and our lack of interest in social endeavors tends to compound it.

The only difference is that I don't consider it a deal-breaker. I don't think we have different definitions of "awkward," I just think we respond to it differently. I consider my response a little bit healthier.


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small talk pro tip: ask about pets

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even if they dont have any most people will just naturally talk about pets theyve always wanted or one they had as a child

usually it lets you open up too about pets you have or had which you can use to segue into a bunch of other things
I work in customer service, I know how to talk to strangers.

I just don't want to, because any potential awkwardness outweighs the benefit in a majority of cases.

to offense but if you knew how to talk to strangers this wouldnt be an issue

representing a company in a professional manner where youre tasked with assisting customers who have a very narrow set of possible requests is different from
Dude, I go to fucking concerts all the time. The concept of "talking to people" is not new to me, I just have no interest in talking to people for the sake of talking to them. It's pointless, and the pointlessness really activates my almonds.


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There are plenty of reasons not to want to meet people you talk to on the Internet. Awkwardness is not one of them.
How do you define "awkward", out of curiousity. I have a feeling that I'm using it much more liberally than you.
Emotionally, it describes a feeling of mild to moderate social discomfort, similar to embarrassment but less extreme, typically associated with breaking some kind of social rule or moré and feeling ashamed about it (giving a high-five to someone who wasn't offering you one, )

People with social anxiety, such as you and I, tend to be prone to this feeling, and our lack of interest in social endeavors tends to compound it.

The only difference is that I don't consider it a deal-breaker. I don't think we have different definitions of "awkward," I just think we respond to it differently. I consider my response a little bit healthier.
I'm referring to awkward "situations", not just feeling awkward. Hanging out with a friend, but you're both just kind of sitting silently an not interacting for 15+ minutes? I'd feel fine doing that (happens all the time), but I'd still describe it as an awkward situation.


 
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No. This is one of those things where, if you completely understood, you would agree.

I find your standards dated and nonsensical and I don't understand them. I don't understand why physical interaction matters so much when you use arbitrary things like voice inflection to define "true" interaction, as if Skype doesn't exist, and as if I haven't made YouTube videos with my voice in them. Like come on now, give me a break.

If you just admitted it doesn't make any sense, I wouldn't have an issue.


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No. This is one of those things where, if you completely understood, you would agree.

I find your standards dated and nonsensical and I don't understand them. I don't understand why physical interaction matters so much when you use arbitrary things like voice inflection to define "true" interaction, as if Skype doesn't exist, and as if I haven't made YouTube videos with my voice in them. Like come on now, give me a break.
I wouldn't say that I've interacted with Brad Pitt just because he read my mean tweet on Kimmel. Hearing isn't an intercation because it doesn't provide feedback (either through a vocal response or facial expressions).

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If you just admitted it doesn't make any sense, I wouldn't have an issue.
I'd think you could gather that it's a personal standard by the fact that I haven't told anyone they're wrong for disagreeing. I just need something more for it to feel real.
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small talk pro tip: ask about pets

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usually it lets you open up too about pets you have or had which you can use to segue into a bunch of other things
I work in customer service, I know how to talk to strangers.

I just don't want to, because any potential awkwardness outweighs the benefit in a majority of cases.

to offense but if you knew how to talk to strangers this wouldnt be an issue

representing a company in a professional manner where youre tasked with assisting customers who have a very narrow set of possible requests is different from
Dude, I go to fucking concerts all the time. The concept of "talking to people" is not new to me, I just have no interest in talking to people for the sake of talking to them. It's pointless, and the pointlessness really activates my almonds.

if youre so good at it then why is it weird

i just dont understand

its not pointless. ive met loads of people offline that i started talking with over the internet and, granted there is an adjustment period but its overall an insightful opportunity to understand someone you thought you knew on a deeper level

my best friend and i can read each other like books because we spend a good amount of time conversing over text, but the physical perspective just enhances the understanding so much.

pretty much the driving force behind my desire to meet so many of you is to see how you act in a physical setting. its largely backed by psychological interest and it will give me a far greater perspective on our community. far from pointless.


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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
small talk pro tip: ask about pets

its dear to people so they enjoy talking about it without coming off as weird or intrusive

even if they dont have any most people will just naturally talk about pets theyve always wanted or one they had as a child

usually it lets you open up too about pets you have or had which you can use to segue into a bunch of other things
I work in customer service, I know how to talk to strangers.

I just don't want to, because any potential awkwardness outweighs the benefit in a majority of cases.

to offense but if you knew how to talk to strangers this wouldnt be an issue

representing a company in a professional manner where youre tasked with assisting customers who have a very narrow set of possible requests is different from
Dude, I go to fucking concerts all the time. The concept of "talking to people" is not new to me, I just have no interest in talking to people for the sake of talking to them. It's pointless, and the pointlessness really activates my almonds.

if youre so good at it then why is it weird

i just dont understand

its not pointless. ive met loads of people offline that i started talking with over the internet and, granted there is an adjustment period but its overall an insightful opportunity to understand someone you thought you knew on a deeper level

my best friend and i can read each other like books because we spend a good amount of time conversing over text, but the physical perspective just enhances the understanding so much.

pretty much the driving force behind my desire to meet so many of you is to see how you act in a physical setting. its largely backed by psychological interest and it will give me a far greater perspective on our community. far from pointless.
It's weird because I don't want to do it, so doing it anyway would make no sense. I have no idea how to be more straightforward than that.


 
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I'm referring to awkward "situations", not just feeling awkward. Hanging out with a friend, but you're both just kind of sitting silently an not interacting for 15+ minutes? I'd feel fine doing that (happens all the time), but I'd still describe it as an awkward situation.
My best friend, who I've known for 16 years and practically lives in my house over the summer, and I will have days where we just kind of sit in silence, too. I don't consider that awkward, but maybe that's because I've known him for so long, we have a near-psychic understanding of how we feel and what we want to do, and sometimes, that translates to minding our own business for 30 minutes. And he feels the same way, we've talked about it before.

In that sense, I suppose I would have a more conservative definition of an "awkward situation," but it's not exactly something I can pinpoint so much as I can give a bunch of meaningless examples.
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I work in customer service, I know how to talk to strangers.

I just don't want to, because any potential awkwardness outweighs the benefit in a majority of cases.

to offense but if you knew how to talk to strangers this wouldnt be an issue

representing a company in a professional manner where youre tasked with assisting customers who have a very narrow set of possible requests is different from
Dude, I go to fucking concerts all the time. The concept of "talking to people" is not new to me, I just have no interest in talking to people for the sake of talking to them. It's pointless, and the pointlessness really activates my almonds.

if youre so good at it then why is it weird

i just dont understand

its not pointless. ive met loads of people offline that i started talking with over the internet and, granted there is an adjustment period but its overall an insightful opportunity to understand someone you thought you knew on a deeper level

my best friend and i can read each other like books because we spend a good amount of time conversing over text, but the physical perspective just enhances the understanding so much.

pretty much the driving force behind my desire to meet so many of you is to see how you act in a physical setting. its largely backed by psychological interest and it will give me a far greater perspective on our community. far from pointless.
It's weird because I don't want to do it, so doing it anyway would make no sense. I have no idea how to be more straightforward than that.

i dont think thats the correct word to use

im using weird as a synonym for awkward. how is doing something you dont want to do awkward. its nonsensical sure but not awkward.


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In that sense, I suppose I would have a more conservative definition of an "awkward situation," but it's not exactly something I can pinpoint so much as I can give a bunch of meaningless examples.
That's all I meant by it. It's not like I'd start having a panic attack because I ran out of things to say, it would either turn into not talking anymore and browsing my phone for the duration of the meeting or it would be a mild "weird" situation.

Maybe "weird" is a bit better than "awkward" to describe it; I'd rather avoid it, regardless.


 
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I wouldn't say that I've interacted with Brad Pitt just because he read my mean tweet on Kimmel. Hearing isn't an intercation because it doesn't provide feedback (either through a vocal response or facial expressions).

I'd think you could gather that it's a personal standard by the fact that I haven't told anyone they're wrong for disagreeing. I just need something more for it to feel real.
Right, but you realize I can continue to whittle down social interaction to its most threadbare and say that they apply to all forms of interaction.

This "something more" doesn't exist, is what I'm trying to say. It's an illusion, and everything that Internet communication lacks can be replicated in some form, and I'd still firmly argue that the Internet is where people show their true selves anyway. People put on more of a facade """""in real life""""" than they do on the Internet.


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im using weird as a synonym for awkward. how is doing something you dont want to do awkward. its nonsensical sure but not awkward.
"I really hate putting toothpicks under my toenails, but you know what? I'm going to go ahead and do that right now anyway just because."

That does not sound weird to you

like at all


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People put on more of a facade """""in real life""""" than they do on the Internet.
You should know better than to assume that I'm at my realest here lmao


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It's weird because I don't want to do it, so doing it anyway would make no sense. I have no idea how to be more straightforward than that.
because that's very circular

you're not obligated to explain further than that, but you can't act like there isn't more to it


 
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People put on more of a facade """""in real life""""" than they do on the Internet.
You should know better than to assume that I'm at my realest here lmao
You're "people"?

Not that that was the crux of my point, or anything. I'd much rather you have responded to that.
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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
It's weird because I don't want to do it, so doing it anyway would make no sense. I have no idea how to be more straightforward than that.
because that's very circular

you're not obligated to explain further than that, but you can't act like there isn't more to it
How is it circular

Information: I hate cats
Motivation: stay away from cats
Action: go and sit in a room filled with cats

It makes perfect sense to not do things I don't like. There is more to it (why I don't like cats, for the example), but that wasn't the point of that post; if explaining that I know how to talk to people (shocking) but just don't want to (scandalous) doesn't convey the fact that I'm not some autistic fuckwad who can't string together three words without curling into the fetal position, then the last option is to put it into small, easy to understand words.


 
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im using weird as a synonym for awkward. how is doing something you dont want to do awkward. its nonsensical sure but not awkward.
"I really hate putting toothpicks under my toenails, but you know what? I'm going to go ahead and do that right now anyway just because."

That does not sound weird to you

like at all
pretending that you don't already do things like that (alcohol)

that's not a fair comparison, and i don't need to tell you why

that said, if you asked me why i wouldn't want to shove a toothpick under my toenail, i would be able to explain to you why in detail—no problem