Quote from: MarKhan on June 29, 2018, 05:46:09 AMRaymond Day:"Can someone understand it here? I have a dog, a puppy, he's doing something with his paw... like saluting?"Mark Meechan, raising his hand from the audience:"Yes, I have a puppy. I've taught him to salute."Raymond Day:"Oh, ok. It's saluting like... I can`t remember... it's saluting reminds me something..."Mark Meechan:"Oh, I taught him to salute like Nazi for a joke, I also made a vid and uploaded it on Youtube."Raymond Day:"Right, right. Now your dog, tells me something... Oh, that's terrible... Would you hear that?"Mark Meechan:"What it told you?"Raymond Day:"It told me that somebody got "grossly offended" by your puppy's video and that you will get sued and you will lose the court, I'm sorry to hear that."Mark Meechan:"But that was just a joke. How can I get sued for a joke?"Raymond Day:"Your dog says me, but in different voice... like judge voice... it says "Context doesn`t matter"... "Context doesn`t matter". Okay, I'll leave you with that, thank you."Context doesn't matter was such a stupid remark in that case.
Raymond Day:"Can someone understand it here? I have a dog, a puppy, he's doing something with his paw... like saluting?"Mark Meechan, raising his hand from the audience:"Yes, I have a puppy. I've taught him to salute."Raymond Day:"Oh, ok. It's saluting like... I can`t remember... it's saluting reminds me something..."Mark Meechan:"Oh, I taught him to salute like Nazi for a joke, I also made a vid and uploaded it on Youtube."Raymond Day:"Right, right. Now your dog, tells me something... Oh, that's terrible... Would you hear that?"Mark Meechan:"What it told you?"Raymond Day:"It told me that somebody got "grossly offended" by your puppy's video and that you will get sued and you will lose the court, I'm sorry to hear that."Mark Meechan:"But that was just a joke. How can I get sued for a joke?"Raymond Day:"Your dog says me, but in different voice... like judge voice... it says "Context doesn`t matter"... "Context doesn`t matter". Okay, I'll leave you with that, thank you."
Quote from: MarKhan on June 29, 2018, 07:29:28 AMQuote from: Flee on June 29, 2018, 06:48:56 AMQuote from: MarKhan on June 29, 2018, 05:46:09 AMRaymond Day:"Can someone understand it here? I have a dog, a puppy, he's doing something with his paw... like saluting?"Mark Meechan, raising his hand from the audience:"Yes, I have a puppy. I've taught him to salute."Raymond Day:"Oh, ok. It's saluting like... I can`t remember... it's saluting reminds me something..."Mark Meechan:"Oh, I taught him to salute like Nazi for a joke, I also made a vid and uploaded it on Youtube."Raymond Day:"Right, right. Now your dog, tells me something... Oh, that's terrible... Would you hear that?"Mark Meechan:"What it told you?"Raymond Day:"It told me that somebody got "grossly offended" by your puppy's video and that you will get sued and you will lose the court, I'm sorry to hear that."Mark Meechan:"But that was just a joke. How can I get sued for a joke?"Raymond Day:"Your dog says me, but in different voice... like judge voice... it says "Context doesn`t matter"... "Context doesn`t matter". Okay, I'll leave you with that, thank you."Context doesn't matter was such a stupid remark in that case.I think overall trying to regulate hate speech is a stupid idea, because there is no clear way of defining hate speech and I don't think there will be one.Nah, hate speech is pretty clear cut. "I hate America" and "death to America" can both be seen as hate speech, but it's the latter that is obviously inciting violence against Americans and American institutions. That should be punished and even have you brought under suspicion of terrorism.
Quote from: Flee on June 29, 2018, 06:48:56 AMQuote from: MarKhan on June 29, 2018, 05:46:09 AMRaymond Day:"Can someone understand it here? I have a dog, a puppy, he's doing something with his paw... like saluting?"Mark Meechan, raising his hand from the audience:"Yes, I have a puppy. I've taught him to salute."Raymond Day:"Oh, ok. It's saluting like... I can`t remember... it's saluting reminds me something..."Mark Meechan:"Oh, I taught him to salute like Nazi for a joke, I also made a vid and uploaded it on Youtube."Raymond Day:"Right, right. Now your dog, tells me something... Oh, that's terrible... Would you hear that?"Mark Meechan:"What it told you?"Raymond Day:"It told me that somebody got "grossly offended" by your puppy's video and that you will get sued and you will lose the court, I'm sorry to hear that."Mark Meechan:"But that was just a joke. How can I get sued for a joke?"Raymond Day:"Your dog says me, but in different voice... like judge voice... it says "Context doesn`t matter"... "Context doesn`t matter". Okay, I'll leave you with that, thank you."Context doesn't matter was such a stupid remark in that case.I think overall trying to regulate hate speech is a stupid idea, because there is no clear way of defining hate speech and I don't think there will be one.
Quote from: MarKhan on June 29, 2018, 08:58:58 AMQuote from: challengerX on June 29, 2018, 08:47:48 AMQuote from: MarKhan on June 29, 2018, 07:29:28 AMQuote from: Flee on June 29, 2018, 06:48:56 AMQuote from: MarKhan on June 29, 2018, 05:46:09 AMRaymond Day:"Can someone understand it here? I have a dog, a puppy, he's doing something with his paw... like saluting?"Mark Meechan, raising his hand from the audience:"Yes, I have a puppy. I've taught him to salute."Raymond Day:"Oh, ok. It's saluting like... I can`t remember... it's saluting reminds me something..."Mark Meechan:"Oh, I taught him to salute like Nazi for a joke, I also made a vid and uploaded it on Youtube."Raymond Day:"Right, right. Now your dog, tells me something... Oh, that's terrible... Would you hear that?"Mark Meechan:"What it told you?"Raymond Day:"It told me that somebody got "grossly offended" by your puppy's video and that you will get sued and you will lose the court, I'm sorry to hear that."Mark Meechan:"But that was just a joke. How can I get sued for a joke?"Raymond Day:"Your dog says me, but in different voice... like judge voice... it says "Context doesn`t matter"... "Context doesn`t matter". Okay, I'll leave you with that, thank you."Context doesn't matter was such a stupid remark in that case.I think overall trying to regulate hate speech is a stupid idea, because there is no clear way of defining hate speech and I don't think there will be one.Nah, hate speech is pretty clear cut. "I hate America" and "death to America" can both be seen as hate speech, but it's the latter that is obviously inciting violence against Americans and American institutions. That should be punished and even have you brought under suspicion of terrorism.I didn`t say that hate speech shouldn't be punished, I said that attempts to regulate it are stupid. Usually cases of hate speech aren`t that clear as threating ("death to America") or describing your stance ("I hate America"), and thats a problem, because how you fix something when you don`t know what exactly to fix?I just explained it. If I say I hate niggers or make a racist joke about black people, it's not really civil behavior but it's not something you prosecute either. If I say "we need to get rid of the god damn niggers in this town!!" then you investigate me, because I am now inciting violence.You're not really fixing anything, you're just trying to prevent crime. You can't "fix" hate speech and get people to stop being racist and hateful. That's gonna be around for a while, there's not really anything anybody can do about that.
Quote from: challengerX on June 29, 2018, 08:47:48 AMQuote from: MarKhan on June 29, 2018, 07:29:28 AMQuote from: Flee on June 29, 2018, 06:48:56 AMQuote from: MarKhan on June 29, 2018, 05:46:09 AMRaymond Day:"Can someone understand it here? I have a dog, a puppy, he's doing something with his paw... like saluting?"Mark Meechan, raising his hand from the audience:"Yes, I have a puppy. I've taught him to salute."Raymond Day:"Oh, ok. It's saluting like... I can`t remember... it's saluting reminds me something..."Mark Meechan:"Oh, I taught him to salute like Nazi for a joke, I also made a vid and uploaded it on Youtube."Raymond Day:"Right, right. Now your dog, tells me something... Oh, that's terrible... Would you hear that?"Mark Meechan:"What it told you?"Raymond Day:"It told me that somebody got "grossly offended" by your puppy's video and that you will get sued and you will lose the court, I'm sorry to hear that."Mark Meechan:"But that was just a joke. How can I get sued for a joke?"Raymond Day:"Your dog says me, but in different voice... like judge voice... it says "Context doesn`t matter"... "Context doesn`t matter". Okay, I'll leave you with that, thank you."Context doesn't matter was such a stupid remark in that case.I think overall trying to regulate hate speech is a stupid idea, because there is no clear way of defining hate speech and I don't think there will be one.Nah, hate speech is pretty clear cut. "I hate America" and "death to America" can both be seen as hate speech, but it's the latter that is obviously inciting violence against Americans and American institutions. That should be punished and even have you brought under suspicion of terrorism.I didn`t say that hate speech shouldn't be punished, I said that attempts to regulate it are stupid. Usually cases of hate speech aren`t that clear as threating ("death to America") or describing your stance ("I hate America"), and thats a problem, because how you fix something when you don`t know what exactly to fix?
Quote from: MarKhan on June 29, 2018, 08:58:58 AMQuote from: challengerX on June 29, 2018, 08:47:48 AMQuote from: MarKhan on June 29, 2018, 07:29:28 AMQuote from: Flee on June 29, 2018, 06:48:56 AMQuote from: MarKhan on June 29, 2018, 05:46:09 AMRaymond Day:"Can someone understand it here? I have a dog, a puppy, he's doing something with his paw... like saluting?"Mark Meechan, raising his hand from the audience:"Yes, I have a puppy. I've taught him to salute."Raymond Day:"Oh, ok. It's saluting like... I can`t remember... it's saluting reminds me something..."Mark Meechan:"Oh, I taught him to salute like Nazi for a joke, I also made a vid and uploaded it on Youtube."Raymond Day:"Right, right. Now your dog, tells me something... Oh, that's terrible... Would you hear that?"Mark Meechan:"What it told you?"Raymond Day:"It told me that somebody got "grossly offended" by your puppy's video and that you will get sued and you will lose the court, I'm sorry to hear that."Mark Meechan:"But that was just a joke. How can I get sued for a joke?"Raymond Day:"Your dog says me, but in different voice... like judge voice... it says "Context doesn`t matter"... "Context doesn`t matter". Okay, I'll leave you with that, thank you."Context doesn't matter was such a stupid remark in that case.I think overall trying to regulate hate speech is a stupid idea, because there is no clear way of defining hate speech and I don't think there will be one.Nah, hate speech is pretty clear cut. "I hate America" and "death to America" can both be seen as hate speech, but it's the latter that is obviously inciting violence against Americans and American institutions. That should be punished and even have you brought under suspicion of terrorism.I didn`t say that hate speech shouldn't be punished, I said that attempts to regulate it are stupid. Usually cases of hate speech aren`t that clear as threating ("death to America") or describing your stance ("I hate America"), and thats a problem, because how you fix something when you don`t know what exactly to fix?How do you suggest it's punished without it being regulated though?