I agree with Dolce and Gabbana on their IVF comments

 
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It is synthetic. IVF babies are artificial. It's essentially a selfish way of satisfying your own genetic and biological desires.

If you're gay, or infertile, and want a kid then fucking adopt one you cunt.


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If you're gay, or infertile, and want a kid then fucking adopt one you cunt.

Meta's gone full Verby.

OT: The definition of synthetic is something along the lines of 'made through a chemical process outside of natural processes', so he's not wrong. To me, picking out parents is more controversial than genetically modifying an existing embryo. Say for example you take embryos and filter out disorders and other undesirable medical traits; compared to picking out a sperm and ovum from donors who possess desirable traits (be it medical, athletic, or otherwise), the former is much more defensible than the latter.


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To me, picking out parents is more controversial than genetically modifying an existing embryo. Say for example you take embryos and filter out disorders and other undesirable medical traits; compared to picking out a sperm and ovum from donors who possess desirable traits (be it medical, athletic, or otherwise), the former is much more defensible than the latter.
I don't see what this has to do with the topic at hand. I'm missing your point.


 
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It's true. The institutionalised abuse of children is pretty much an epidemic, at least in the U.K.

It's practically immoral to use IVF. It's essentially neglectful.


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To me, picking out parents is more controversial than genetically modifying an existing embryo. Say for example you take embryos and filter out disorders and other undesirable medical traits; compared to picking out a sperm and ovum from donors who possess desirable traits (be it medical, athletic, or otherwise), the former is much more defensible than the latter.
I don't see what this has to do with the topic at hand. I'm missing your point.

Well your topic is IVF, and I'm contrasting that to the current debate around genetic modification in embryos to eliminate disorders or potentially make custom phenotypes, agreeing that IVF is a selfish route compared to adoption.


 
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agreeing that IVF is a selfish route compared to adoption.
Well that's all right then.


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lol you're barely 18
So?

Will I turn 30 and suddenly realise the virtues of IVF?


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You're just a kid on an edgy moral high horse
So thinking adoption > IVF is an "edgy moral high horse".


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Yes
Wow.

I'm going to go home and totally re-evaluate my life now.


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Many people want their own kids, not someone else's.