Fanservice is there just like TFA, but TFA's was implemented more seamlessly. It's jarring here.
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 16, 2016, 01:48:19 AMFanservice is there just like TFA, but TFA's was implemented more seamlessly. It's jarring here. Sorry, but not really if you ask me. TFA threw stuff in your face so obnoxiously it was like some old guy holding a picture up and going"REMEMBER THIS??"The only time I felt that with Rogue One was the stupid blue milk in the beginning. But it wasn't as in your face as the chess board thing from TFA, or whatever else they managed to throw in your face that my mind blocked off.
I guess I just really didn't like the Dr. Evazan (fucked up face guy) and Ponda Baba (walrus man) cameo.
Yeah, I need to process it, but having JUST got back from it, I can say I safely feel the majority of the movie was slow as shit, but the ending was a big pay off. SpoilerThe Vader scene at the end with him desperately trying to get the plans and the rebel trying to get away really made it feel as dark as Episode 3, and I loved every second of it.And yeah, question, am I the only one that thought the majority of the movie was dark as HECK? Like, 80% of it was so damn dark.
Quote from: Luciana on December 16, 2016, 11:21:16 PMYeah, I need to process it, but having JUST got back from it, I can say I safely feel the majority of the movie was slow as shit, but the ending was a big pay off. SpoilerThe Vader scene at the end with him desperately trying to get the plans and the rebel trying to get away really made it feel as dark as Episode 3, and I loved every second of it.And yeah, question, am I the only one that thought the majority of the movie was dark as HECK? Like, 80% of it was so damn dark.The part with the crying child in the city firefight felt really dark. I guess they included that to illustrate how Saw's tactics put civilians in danger
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 16, 2016, 11:38:40 PMQuote from: Luciana on December 16, 2016, 11:21:16 PMYeah, I need to process it, but having JUST got back from it, I can say I safely feel the majority of the movie was slow as shit, but the ending was a big pay off. SpoilerThe Vader scene at the end with him desperately trying to get the plans and the rebel trying to get away really made it feel as dark as Episode 3, and I loved every second of it.And yeah, question, am I the only one that thought the majority of the movie was dark as HECK? Like, 80% of it was so damn dark.The part with the crying child in the city firefight felt really dark. I guess they included that to illustrate how Saw's tactics put civilians in dangerHonestly, that part distracted me because of how the child was just standing there stupidly looking up and crying. If she looked around more frantically while crying, and maybe holding an arm close to herself, I'd have felt much more sympathetic. But all I thought was "that was just bad direction to give the child acting it out". It just came off as silly to me.
I didn't like Whittaker as Saw. I think that character suffered a lot from the reshoots.
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 16, 2016, 01:48:19 AMFanservice is there just like TFA, but TFA's was implemented more seamlessly. It's jarring here. Sorry, but not really if you ask me. TFA threw stuff in your face so obnoxiously it was like some old guy holding a picture up and going"REMEMBER THIS??"
Quote from: Luciana on December 16, 2016, 11:16:11 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 16, 2016, 01:48:19 AMFanservice is there just like TFA, but TFA's was implemented more seamlessly. It's jarring here. Sorry, but not really if you ask me. TFA threw stuff in your face so obnoxiously it was like some old guy holding a picture up and going"REMEMBER THIS??"YouTube
Quote from: Dapper Droid on December 17, 2016, 01:33:14 AMQuote from: Luciana on December 16, 2016, 11:16:11 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 16, 2016, 01:48:19 AMFanservice is there just like TFA, but TFA's was implemented more seamlessly. It's jarring here. Sorry, but not really if you ask me. TFA threw stuff in your face so obnoxiously it was like some old guy holding a picture up and going"REMEMBER THIS??"YouTubeYeah yeah I get it. Mind you, I haven't seen the film for about seven months, I didn't really remember the fanservice stuff.Again, I just really hated the Dr. Evazan and Ponda Baba cameo, it struck me as so out of place. The rest of the fanservice wasn't that bad.
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 17, 2016, 01:35:16 AMQuote from: Dapper Droid on December 17, 2016, 01:33:14 AMQuote from: Luciana on December 16, 2016, 11:16:11 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 16, 2016, 01:48:19 AMFanservice is there just like TFA, but TFA's was implemented more seamlessly. It's jarring here. Sorry, but not really if you ask me. TFA threw stuff in your face so obnoxiously it was like some old guy holding a picture up and going"REMEMBER THIS??"YouTubeYeah yeah I get it. Mind you, I haven't seen the film for about seven months, I didn't really remember the fanservice stuff.Again, I just really hated the Dr. Evazan and Ponda Baba cameo, it struck me as so out of place. The rest of the fanservice wasn't that bad.Meh, we've had Greedo fight George Lucas. YouTubeComplaining about other characters showing up in situations is moot at this point. It's certainly less of a stretch to believe they were on that planet than it is to believe "OH NO, SHEEV WAN'T THE SUPER BAD GUY, THERE'S AN EVEN SUPERER BADER GUY CALLED SNOKE, AND THERE'S A FROG LADY (NOT YODA THO) THAT KNOWS ABOUT THE FORCE AND THE SKYWALKERS ANDIS THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD!!!11!"
Quote from: Dapper Droid on December 17, 2016, 01:42:04 AMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 17, 2016, 01:35:16 AMQuote from: Dapper Droid on December 17, 2016, 01:33:14 AMQuote from: Luciana on December 16, 2016, 11:16:11 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 16, 2016, 01:48:19 AMFanservice is there just like TFA, but TFA's was implemented more seamlessly. It's jarring here. Sorry, but not really if you ask me. TFA threw stuff in your face so obnoxiously it was like some old guy holding a picture up and going"REMEMBER THIS??"YouTubeYeah yeah I get it. Mind you, I haven't seen the film for about seven months, I didn't really remember the fanservice stuff.Again, I just really hated the Dr. Evazan and Ponda Baba cameo, it struck me as so out of place. The rest of the fanservice wasn't that bad.Meh, we've had Greedo fight George Lucas. YouTubeComplaining about other characters showing up in situations is moot at this point. It's certainly less of a stretch to believe they were on that planet than it is to believe "OH NO, SHEEV WAN'T THE SUPER BAD GUY, THERE'S AN EVEN SUPERER BADER GUY CALLED SNOKE, AND THERE'S A FROG LADY (NOT YODA THO) THAT KNOWS ABOUT THE FORCE AND THE SKYWALKERS ANDIS THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD!!!11!"No one ever said Palpatine wasn't the super bad guy or that Snoke was necessarily better. Snoke is just older and isn't a Sith. I think the guys in charge of the new canon are smart enough not to marginalize Palply.Also nothing wrong with Maz being really old. She isn't as strong in the force as Yoda, she just knows it is a thing. I am a massive OT fan but just because the OT came first doesn't mean that certain characters from it have to be the "-est" in regards to qualities (with a few exceptions). Yoda doesn't have to be the Oldest (although most powerful yes, and he still is), and Max being older in no way makes Yoda any lesser. Yoda was certainly wiser and more knowledgeable.Palpatine not being as super old as Snoke isn't bad, remember that Snoke isn't the one who took over the fucking Galaxy.Look I have issues with TFA too, but it did get some things right. Finn and Kylo Ren were great, and Rey needs work in the character arc department obviously, and while it irritates me that it wasn't present in TFA it could very much surface in 8 with Rian Johnson at the helm.
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 17, 2016, 01:50:06 AMQuote from: Dapper Droid on December 17, 2016, 01:42:04 AMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 17, 2016, 01:35:16 AMQuote from: Dapper Droid on December 17, 2016, 01:33:14 AMQuote from: Luciana on December 16, 2016, 11:16:11 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 16, 2016, 01:48:19 AMFanservice is there just like TFA, but TFA's was implemented more seamlessly. It's jarring here. Sorry, but not really if you ask me. TFA threw stuff in your face so obnoxiously it was like some old guy holding a picture up and going"REMEMBER THIS??"YouTubeYeah yeah I get it. Mind you, I haven't seen the film for about seven months, I didn't really remember the fanservice stuff.Again, I just really hated the Dr. Evazan and Ponda Baba cameo, it struck me as so out of place. The rest of the fanservice wasn't that bad.Meh, we've had Greedo fight George Lucas. YouTubeComplaining about other characters showing up in situations is moot at this point. It's certainly less of a stretch to believe they were on that planet than it is to believe "OH NO, SHEEV WAN'T THE SUPER BAD GUY, THERE'S AN EVEN SUPERER BADER GUY CALLED SNOKE, AND THERE'S A FROG LADY (NOT YODA THO) THAT KNOWS ABOUT THE FORCE AND THE SKYWALKERS ANDIS THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD!!!11!"No one ever said Palpatine wasn't the super bad guy or that Snoke was necessarily better. Snoke is just older and isn't a Sith. I think the guys in charge of the new canon are smart enough not to marginalize Palply.Also nothing wrong with Maz being really old. She isn't as strong in the force as Yoda, she just knows it is a thing. I am a massive OT fan but just because the OT came first doesn't mean that certain characters from it have to be the "-est" in regards to qualities (with a few exceptions). Yoda doesn't have to be the Oldest (although most powerful yes, and he still is), and Max being older in no way makes Yoda any lesser. Yoda was certainly wiser and more knowledgeable.Palpatine not being as super old as Snoke isn't bad, remember that Snoke isn't the one who took over the fucking Galaxy.Look I have issues with TFA too, but it did get some things right. Finn and Kylo Ren were great, and Rey needs work in the character arc department obviously, and while it irritates me that it wasn't present in TFA it could very much surface in 8 with Rian Johnson at the helm.I don't have an issue with new threats. I have an issue with the new threats being presented as a greater threat than before (whether Snoke is better than sheev is to be determined, but that's how it's to be interpreted in TFA), but yet we somehow never knew about them during the 60 years of the Star Wars timeline.You'd think Sheev, who spent his whole life planning to create the Empire, and who in TCW and ROTS made sure no one of any significance could stand up to him would be able to detect or want Snoke destroyed. II'm sure the writers and story group have a good explaination in the upcoming films, but as it stands now, its just silly.
Quote from: Dapper Droid on December 17, 2016, 02:00:41 AMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 17, 2016, 01:50:06 AMQuote from: Dapper Droid on December 17, 2016, 01:42:04 AMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 17, 2016, 01:35:16 AMQuote from: Dapper Droid on December 17, 2016, 01:33:14 AMQuote from: Luciana on December 16, 2016, 11:16:11 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 16, 2016, 01:48:19 AMFanservice is there just like TFA, but TFA's was implemented more seamlessly. It's jarring here. Sorry, but not really if you ask me. TFA threw stuff in your face so obnoxiously it was like some old guy holding a picture up and going"REMEMBER THIS??"YouTubeYeah yeah I get it. Mind you, I haven't seen the film for about seven months, I didn't really remember the fanservice stuff.Again, I just really hated the Dr. Evazan and Ponda Baba cameo, it struck me as so out of place. The rest of the fanservice wasn't that bad.Meh, we've had Greedo fight George Lucas. YouTubeComplaining about other characters showing up in situations is moot at this point. It's certainly less of a stretch to believe they were on that planet than it is to believe "OH NO, SHEEV WAN'T THE SUPER BAD GUY, THERE'S AN EVEN SUPERER BADER GUY CALLED SNOKE, AND THERE'S A FROG LADY (NOT YODA THO) THAT KNOWS ABOUT THE FORCE AND THE SKYWALKERS ANDIS THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD!!!11!"No one ever said Palpatine wasn't the super bad guy or that Snoke was necessarily better. Snoke is just older and isn't a Sith. I think the guys in charge of the new canon are smart enough not to marginalize Palply.Also nothing wrong with Maz being really old. She isn't as strong in the force as Yoda, she just knows it is a thing. I am a massive OT fan but just because the OT came first doesn't mean that certain characters from it have to be the "-est" in regards to qualities (with a few exceptions). Yoda doesn't have to be the Oldest (although most powerful yes, and he still is), and Max being older in no way makes Yoda any lesser. Yoda was certainly wiser and more knowledgeable.Palpatine not being as super old as Snoke isn't bad, remember that Snoke isn't the one who took over the fucking Galaxy.Look I have issues with TFA too, but it did get some things right. Finn and Kylo Ren were great, and Rey needs work in the character arc department obviously, and while it irritates me that it wasn't present in TFA it could very much surface in 8 with Rian Johnson at the helm.I don't have an issue with new threats. I have an issue with the new threats being presented as a greater threat than before (whether Snoke is better than sheev is to be determined, but that's how it's to be interpreted in TFA), but yet we somehow never knew about them during the 60 years of the Star Wars timeline.You'd think Sheev, who spent his whole life planning to create the Empire, and who in TCW and ROTS made sure no one of any significance could stand up to him would be able to detect or want Snoke destroyed. II'm sure the writers and story group have a good explaination in the upcoming films, but as it stands now, its just silly.I just try to keep in mind that 7 is the first in a trilogy, and that Abrams just happens to like Star Wars (the film, not the franchise) so damn much that he made it again. From what I understand Disney wasn't extremely hands on with the creative process, and it is Abrams that really made 7 Star Wars: Greatest Hits. Rian Johnson is great and I think that eight will end up being a much better film.
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 17, 2016, 02:03:13 AMQuote from: Dapper Droid on December 17, 2016, 02:00:41 AMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 17, 2016, 01:50:06 AMQuote from: Dapper Droid on December 17, 2016, 01:42:04 AMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 17, 2016, 01:35:16 AMQuote from: Dapper Droid on December 17, 2016, 01:33:14 AMQuote from: Luciana on December 16, 2016, 11:16:11 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 16, 2016, 01:48:19 AMFanservice is there just like TFA, but TFA's was implemented more seamlessly. It's jarring here. Sorry, but not really if you ask me. TFA threw stuff in your face so obnoxiously it was like some old guy holding a picture up and going"REMEMBER THIS??"YouTubeYeah yeah I get it. Mind you, I haven't seen the film for about seven months, I didn't really remember the fanservice stuff.Again, I just really hated the Dr. Evazan and Ponda Baba cameo, it struck me as so out of place. The rest of the fanservice wasn't that bad.Meh, we've had Greedo fight George Lucas. YouTubeComplaining about other characters showing up in situations is moot at this point. It's certainly less of a stretch to believe they were on that planet than it is to believe "OH NO, SHEEV WAN'T THE SUPER BAD GUY, THERE'S AN EVEN SUPERER BADER GUY CALLED SNOKE, AND THERE'S A FROG LADY (NOT YODA THO) THAT KNOWS ABOUT THE FORCE AND THE SKYWALKERS ANDIS THOUSANDS OF YEARS OLD!!!11!"No one ever said Palpatine wasn't the super bad guy or that Snoke was necessarily better. Snoke is just older and isn't a Sith. I think the guys in charge of the new canon are smart enough not to marginalize Palply.Also nothing wrong with Maz being really old. She isn't as strong in the force as Yoda, she just knows it is a thing. I am a massive OT fan but just because the OT came first doesn't mean that certain characters from it have to be the "-est" in regards to qualities (with a few exceptions). Yoda doesn't have to be the Oldest (although most powerful yes, and he still is), and Max being older in no way makes Yoda any lesser. Yoda was certainly wiser and more knowledgeable.Palpatine not being as super old as Snoke isn't bad, remember that Snoke isn't the one who took over the fucking Galaxy.Look I have issues with TFA too, but it did get some things right. Finn and Kylo Ren were great, and Rey needs work in the character arc department obviously, and while it irritates me that it wasn't present in TFA it could very much surface in 8 with Rian Johnson at the helm.I don't have an issue with new threats. I have an issue with the new threats being presented as a greater threat than before (whether Snoke is better than sheev is to be determined, but that's how it's to be interpreted in TFA), but yet we somehow never knew about them during the 60 years of the Star Wars timeline.You'd think Sheev, who spent his whole life planning to create the Empire, and who in TCW and ROTS made sure no one of any significance could stand up to him would be able to detect or want Snoke destroyed. II'm sure the writers and story group have a good explaination in the upcoming films, but as it stands now, its just silly.I just try to keep in mind that 7 is the first in a trilogy, and that Abrams just happens to like Star Wars (the film, not the franchise) so damn much that he made it again. From what I understand Disney wasn't extremely hands on with the creative process, and it is Abrams that really made 7 Star Wars: Greatest Hits. Rian Johnson is great and I think that eight will end up being a much better film.Rian Johnson does have greater appreciation for the saga as a whole, which is good. If rumors and leaked scripts are true, I can't wait to see the OT circlejerker's reactions when pic related comes on screen.
gonna check this movie out sometime todayreminder 7>3>1>6>4>2>5expected placement: ...>3>R>1...
My ranking:#1 ESB#2 ANH#3 RoTJ/RO#4 TFA#5 RoTS#6 TPM#7 AoTC
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 17, 2016, 02:22:30 AMMy ranking:#1 ESB#2 ANH#3 RoTJ/RO#4 TFA#5 RoTS#6 TPM#7 AoTCi'm pretty sure this is the conventionally-agreed-upon ranking--not "your" ranking
2) they refused to include the original versions, so the original version, with he original Anakin, is lost for the time being unless you get it through.. certain means.
I know you are a prequel fan, and deride people who prefer the OT
for being upset with the changes but we do have an argument. We should have the original versions as well as the SE.
Also if we see Anakin's ghost I think the best option would be to age Hayden a tad, and make him look closer to Shaw. Give him a shorter haircut. I think this would please most.
i've said it before and i'll say it againif your order is 546321 or 546312, why even take all that time to type it out--just say "i have the most generic possible normie opinion," and we'll know exactly what you mean
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 17, 2016, 02:16:31 AM 2) they refused to include the original versions, so the original version, with he original Anakin, is lost for the time being unless you get it through.. certain means.All the 2004 special editions that Hayden's ghost first appeared in have the Theatrical Versions with them though. I own all three and the Theatrical works perfectly fine. I don't have any audio or video glitches that these versions are supposedly plagued with. QuoteI know you are a prequel fan, and deride people who prefer the OT I'm a Star Wars fan, and deride people who get assblasted when the PT is mentioned. Quotefor being upset with the changes but we do have an argument. We should have the original versions as well as the SE.Blame normies, not me. I'd be fine with original cuts released. The problem is, this creates 2 issues:1) OTfags will go through Star Wars forums even harder, claiming that these prints are the canon versions. We have enough of that cancer already.2) Normies won't know the difference, so if they accidentally pick up the Theatrical versions, they're gonna be confused why Anakin deaged in Ep. VIII or whatever movie he appears in, or why the Emperor looks like a monkey, or why Vader has eyebrows. Blame the normies.QuoteAlso if we see Anakin's ghost I think the best option would be to age Hayden a tad, and make him look closer to Shaw. Give him a shorter haircut. I think this would please most.This doesn't makes sense with the established lore though. Ghosts don't age, and Anakin looks like he did in the Clone Wars, because even though his spirit was redeemed, his form that he died in was corrupted from years of darkside use.Hayden will obviously have aged in real life though, ain't nothin to do about that. Though, they did just CGI two characters in the new movie.
Just got back from seeing Rogue One
