Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 21, 2016, 10:00:54 PMQuote from: Dapper Droid on December 21, 2016, 02:37:44 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 21, 2016, 08:45:52 AMQuote from: A Cheese Potato on December 21, 2016, 08:39:30 AMDid anyone else find Vader's pun groan worthy? I've been trying to figure out why I basically cringed at it, when he does joke a fair amount in all the other films. So I compared some of his other jokes lines;YouTubeto his Rogue One line (link will probably get copyright claimed);YouTubeAnd I dunno, I can't really put my finger on it. I think it's because it's like a self referential joke, something a fan would say but shouldn't actually be put to film. "Wouldn't it be cool if Darth Vader thought his choking ability was totally epic and funny?" It'd be like if the Emperor made some pun about Luke finding it "shocking" how much it hurt being electrified by himI think the problem is that JEJ emphasized "choke" in the line. If it was just "be careful not to choke on your aspirations Director" delivered in his usual tone, that would've been better. Instead it was "be careful not to choke on your aspirations", which wasn't Vader's usual style.Anakin always quips. As potato's video showed, he does it in the OT to. I think it's just people are looking for an excuse to dislike the movie. If you cringe at "Don't choke on your aspirations", you should also cringe at "I find your lack of faith disturbing."But none of his "funny" sayings in the OT were in reference to his ability to force choke people like we got in Rogue One."Wow my force powers are so fucking cool" is basically what we get out of the line and it's not Vader at all.I think you're looking a little to deep into that line. Anakin quips. Always has.
Quote from: Dapper Droid on December 21, 2016, 02:37:44 PMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 21, 2016, 08:45:52 AMQuote from: A Cheese Potato on December 21, 2016, 08:39:30 AMDid anyone else find Vader's pun groan worthy? I've been trying to figure out why I basically cringed at it, when he does joke a fair amount in all the other films. So I compared some of his other jokes lines;YouTubeto his Rogue One line (link will probably get copyright claimed);YouTubeAnd I dunno, I can't really put my finger on it. I think it's because it's like a self referential joke, something a fan would say but shouldn't actually be put to film. "Wouldn't it be cool if Darth Vader thought his choking ability was totally epic and funny?" It'd be like if the Emperor made some pun about Luke finding it "shocking" how much it hurt being electrified by himI think the problem is that JEJ emphasized "choke" in the line. If it was just "be careful not to choke on your aspirations Director" delivered in his usual tone, that would've been better. Instead it was "be careful not to choke on your aspirations", which wasn't Vader's usual style.Anakin always quips. As potato's video showed, he does it in the OT to. I think it's just people are looking for an excuse to dislike the movie. If you cringe at "Don't choke on your aspirations", you should also cringe at "I find your lack of faith disturbing."But none of his "funny" sayings in the OT were in reference to his ability to force choke people like we got in Rogue One."Wow my force powers are so fucking cool" is basically what we get out of the line and it's not Vader at all.
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 21, 2016, 08:45:52 AMQuote from: A Cheese Potato on December 21, 2016, 08:39:30 AMDid anyone else find Vader's pun groan worthy? I've been trying to figure out why I basically cringed at it, when he does joke a fair amount in all the other films. So I compared some of his other jokes lines;YouTubeto his Rogue One line (link will probably get copyright claimed);YouTubeAnd I dunno, I can't really put my finger on it. I think it's because it's like a self referential joke, something a fan would say but shouldn't actually be put to film. "Wouldn't it be cool if Darth Vader thought his choking ability was totally epic and funny?" It'd be like if the Emperor made some pun about Luke finding it "shocking" how much it hurt being electrified by himI think the problem is that JEJ emphasized "choke" in the line. If it was just "be careful not to choke on your aspirations Director" delivered in his usual tone, that would've been better. Instead it was "be careful not to choke on your aspirations", which wasn't Vader's usual style.Anakin always quips. As potato's video showed, he does it in the OT to. I think it's just people are looking for an excuse to dislike the movie. If you cringe at "Don't choke on your aspirations", you should also cringe at "I find your lack of faith disturbing."
Quote from: A Cheese Potato on December 21, 2016, 08:39:30 AMDid anyone else find Vader's pun groan worthy? I've been trying to figure out why I basically cringed at it, when he does joke a fair amount in all the other films. So I compared some of his other jokes lines;YouTubeto his Rogue One line (link will probably get copyright claimed);YouTubeAnd I dunno, I can't really put my finger on it. I think it's because it's like a self referential joke, something a fan would say but shouldn't actually be put to film. "Wouldn't it be cool if Darth Vader thought his choking ability was totally epic and funny?" It'd be like if the Emperor made some pun about Luke finding it "shocking" how much it hurt being electrified by himI think the problem is that JEJ emphasized "choke" in the line. If it was just "be careful not to choke on your aspirations Director" delivered in his usual tone, that would've been better. Instead it was "be careful not to choke on your aspirations", which wasn't Vader's usual style.
Did anyone else find Vader's pun groan worthy? I've been trying to figure out why I basically cringed at it, when he does joke a fair amount in all the other films. So I compared some of his other jokes lines;YouTubeto his Rogue One line (link will probably get copyright claimed);YouTubeAnd I dunno, I can't really put my finger on it. I think it's because it's like a self referential joke, something a fan would say but shouldn't actually be put to film. "Wouldn't it be cool if Darth Vader thought his choking ability was totally epic and funny?" It'd be like if the Emperor made some pun about Luke finding it "shocking" how much it hurt being electrified by him
Someone made a good post about if you're butt hurt over his 80's style one liner, you're an idiot. It's in this thread somewhere.
Quote from: Luciana on December 24, 2016, 02:03:39 AMSomeone made a good post about if you're butt hurt over his 80's style one liner, you're an idiot. It's in this thread somewhere.I am not butthurt over it, I just think it could have been executed better.Really the problem for me is the emphasis on choke. I'd need to see the movie again though.
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 24, 2016, 02:16:00 AMQuote from: Luciana on December 24, 2016, 02:03:39 AMSomeone made a good post about if you're butt hurt over his 80's style one liner, you're an idiot. It's in this thread somewhere.I am not butthurt over it, I just think it could have been executed better.Really the problem for me is the emphasis on choke. I'd need to see the movie again though.I was more so speaking in general, not directly hating on you.
i'm now reminded exactly why i could never mingle with star wars fansA U T I S M
Quote from: Anyposs on December 23, 2016, 01:59:11 PM*looks left**looks right*...I actually kind of enjoyed Rogue One...*slams door behind me**memes myself to death*
*looks left**looks right*...I actually kind of enjoyed Rogue One...
Quote from: Verbatim on December 24, 2016, 02:49:59 AMi'm now reminded exactly why i could never mingle with star wars fansA U T I S M but wouldn't having autism really prevent you from mingling with anyone, not just star wars fans?
Quote from: Zizzy on December 24, 2016, 04:03:06 AMQuote from: Verbatim on December 24, 2016, 02:49:59 AMi'm now reminded exactly why i could never mingle with star wars fansA U T I S M but wouldn't having autism really prevent you from mingling with anyone, not just star wars fans?I'm not the autistic one.
"People enjoy something I don't so they must have autism".
NIN is an edgy knock off of Radiohead.
Yeah that line was bad, though.
Quote from: HubbleTurkeyscope on December 25, 2016, 10:56:02 AMYeah that line was bad, though. what about the line, without referencing his delivery, was bad
Sure, that's fair. Puns are egregious in a film attempting to mirror gripping war dramas. It deflates him as a villain, and presents him as cartoonish. The first time it was done in ANH, it was surprising and new. The second time it was done in ESB it was done in the background. In Rogue One, the scene existed not to move the plot or develop a character, but to intro Vader in an already limping film. The scene could be excised entirely, and the story and characters would be no different; that's a cardinal sin in filmmaking and storytelling. The quip at the end is just distracting. The fact that it's even being discussed means it bothered people.
It's a minor thing, and the movie had many other significant problems anyway. Speaking only of the script, I'd say Jyn's multiple cheesy speeches, Saw's existence, and Chirrut's Force mantra are all bigger problems than a bad line in an unnecessary scene.
Quote from: Dietrich Six on December 25, 2016, 10:38:26 AM"People enjoy something I don't so they must have autism".except i never said that, you autistic little kidpeople who obsess over tiny little autistic details (like napalm) are the ones that drive me insaneQuoteNIN is an edgy knock off of Radiohead. that doesn't even make sense on any level--if anything it's the other way aroundradiohead may have formed as a band earlier than NIN, but they took 7 or 8 years to put anything out, and NIN was already well-establishedalso this has nothing to do with star wars--gg proving your autism
I bet you could tell me things about nin that others would find autistic.
Quote from: HubbleTurkeyscope on December 25, 2016, 11:28:15 AMSure, that's fair. Puns are egregious in a film attempting to mirror gripping war dramas. It deflates him as a villain, and presents him as cartoonish. The first time it was done in ANH, it was surprising and new. The second time it was done in ESB it was done in the background. In Rogue One, the scene existed not to move the plot or develop a character, but to intro Vader in an already limping film. The scene could be excised entirely, and the story and characters would be no different; that's a cardinal sin in filmmaking and storytelling. The quip at the end is just distracting. The fact that it's even being discussed means it bothered people.I mean, Darth Vader is basically a cartoon, though, so I don't really see a problem there. You can't look at his goofy-ass Halloween costume and tell me he doesn't look totally out of place every scene he's in. I agree that the film would probably be better without him, but at the same time, the film was made for fanboys by fanboys and we all know that."The scene could be excised entirely, and the story and characters would be no different; that's a cardinal sin in filmmaking and storytelling."...is it? Personally, I just call that consistency of character, which would be a "cardinal sin" by that logic.QuoteIt's a minor thing, and the movie had many other significant problems anyway. Speaking only of the script, I'd say Jyn's multiple cheesy speeches, Saw's existence, and Chirrut's Force mantra are all bigger problems than a bad line in an unnecessary scene.I agree. Asian guy was the film's Jar Jar (not that Jar Jar is annoying or bad--I'm just throwing you a bone).
Quote from: Dietrich Six on December 25, 2016, 11:47:29 AMI bet you could tell me things about nin that others would find autistic.but i'm not gonna obsess or sperg out over them like a star wars fanboy would
Tbh I probably would have preferred Vader being absent from the movie entirely.
the film was made for fanboys by fanboys and we all know that
Quote from: Verbatim on December 25, 2016, 11:39:29 AMthe film was made for fanboys by fanboys and we all know thatThe main villain is pussified (is that a word?) by Vader and Tarkin,
I am a meticulous person; I thrive on detail.
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on December 25, 2016, 12:59:29 PMI am a meticulous person; I thrive on detail. so do i doesn't change a thing
Darth Vader isn't Anakin Skywalker. He's way cooler and far more badass.
Vader's were more theatrical, dramatic. You got the sense that Vader has an appreciation for the dramatic and has a tendency for theatrics.
Just got back from seeing Rogue One
