The injuries are mostly attributed to crowdsurfing, not moshing. Which is very confusing thay the article doesn't seem to make a difference in terms; they're two different things.
Quote from: Ingloriouswho98 on November 08, 2015, 08:54:46 PMQuote from: Prime Megaten on November 08, 2015, 08:52:58 PMQuote from: Verbatim on November 08, 2015, 08:49:47 PMQuote from: Prime Megaten on November 08, 2015, 08:48:17 PMI'm not comparing them, I'm specifically pointing out how silly it is to say "people died doing that before". People have died going to see a movie. Point is that it doesn't happen often enough to pose a significant risk.I guarantee more people have died moshing than any other example you've given so far. There's no such thing as an insignificant risk.A grand total of nine deaths between 1996 and 2004. And the crowd goes mild.I love it when niggas get fact checked It's on par with releasing piss after two daysToo bad her source only helps me, because I'm not concerned with just deaths. Injuries are important, too.10,000 annual injuries.That's too much to be considered intelligent.http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4804513&page=1
Quote from: Prime Megaten on November 08, 2015, 08:52:58 PMQuote from: Verbatim on November 08, 2015, 08:49:47 PMQuote from: Prime Megaten on November 08, 2015, 08:48:17 PMI'm not comparing them, I'm specifically pointing out how silly it is to say "people died doing that before". People have died going to see a movie. Point is that it doesn't happen often enough to pose a significant risk.I guarantee more people have died moshing than any other example you've given so far. There's no such thing as an insignificant risk.A grand total of nine deaths between 1996 and 2004. And the crowd goes mild.I love it when niggas get fact checked It's on par with releasing piss after two days
Quote from: Verbatim on November 08, 2015, 08:49:47 PMQuote from: Prime Megaten on November 08, 2015, 08:48:17 PMI'm not comparing them, I'm specifically pointing out how silly it is to say "people died doing that before". People have died going to see a movie. Point is that it doesn't happen often enough to pose a significant risk.I guarantee more people have died moshing than any other example you've given so far. There's no such thing as an insignificant risk.A grand total of nine deaths between 1996 and 2004. And the crowd goes mild.
Quote from: Prime Megaten on November 08, 2015, 08:48:17 PMI'm not comparing them, I'm specifically pointing out how silly it is to say "people died doing that before". People have died going to see a movie. Point is that it doesn't happen often enough to pose a significant risk.I guarantee more people have died moshing than any other example you've given so far. There's no such thing as an insignificant risk.
I'm not comparing them, I'm specifically pointing out how silly it is to say "people died doing that before". People have died going to see a movie. Point is that it doesn't happen often enough to pose a significant risk.
Besides tons of people say"Yeah I got punched in the face. It was awesome!"It's a part of the experienceDon't you think the rush and excitement is worth the riskIt's a flood of dopamine and a great releaseConcerts like those are often something people remember for a while manI think you're seriously undermining the mental aspect of this
Quote from: Prime Megaten on November 08, 2015, 09:04:39 PMThe injuries are mostly attributed to crowdsurfing, not moshing. Which is very confusing thay the article doesn't seem to make a difference in terms; they're two different things.I feel like that's something you're projecting onto the article. I don't see any reason to believe that's the case.
Quote from: Ingloriouswho98 on November 08, 2015, 09:06:38 PMBesides tons of people say"Yeah I got punched in the face. It was awesome!"It's a part of the experienceDon't you think the rush and excitement is worth the riskIt's a flood of dopamine and a great releaseConcerts like those are often something people remember for a while manI think you're seriously undermining the mental aspect of thisIt's very Darwinian, I'll give it that. If this is just natural selection at work? Fine. Fuck these cunts. If you believe getting punched in the face is fun, you should probably die.
"I guarantee more people have died moshing than any other example you've given so far."Unless less than 10 deaths (most recent up to 2007) is more than the number of people who have drowned, died of hypothermia, died of skin cancer, or any other thing I mentioned-- that's completely bogus.
Because they literally follow up "70,000" with "There is no way to crowd surf or stage dive safely consistently," which most definitely implies where the injuries are coming from. And then again, and again and again throughout the article they refer back to crowdsurfing: most specifically, the danger of falling from six or seven feet onto concrete.
Quote from: Prime Megaten on November 08, 2015, 09:07:35 PM"I guarantee more people have died moshing than any other example you've given so far."Unless less than 10 deaths (most recent up to 2007) is more than the number of people who have drowned, died of hypothermia, died of skin cancer, or any other thing I mentioned-- that's completely bogus.There are myriad circumstances involved in drowning, freezing to death, and contracting skin cancer.Mosh pit deaths have one circumstance--"I was stupid enough to thrash around in a mosh pit."They're dangerous by their very nature.Swimming is not dangerous by its very nature.Going out in the sun is not dangerous by its very nature.They're not comparable. If you found data on people who died because they felt like it would be "fun" to attempt to drown themselves, then you'd have a fair comparison.
And honestly, if you can't read a crowd, you probably deserve to get punched in the face until you learn.
Quote from: Prime Megaten on November 08, 2015, 09:16:19 PMAnd honestly, if you can't read a crowd, you probably deserve to get punched in the face until you learn.See, this is the kind of logic that really scares me. You start doing stupid shit, you rationalize it, and then you start saying stuff like, "It's not stupid--if you get hurt, you probably deserved it!"...Uh, yeah! If you put yourself in a dangerous position, expect to get hurt. That's what I've been saying. The difference is, you're trying to say that there is a "correct" way to do stupid shit.which is just so UGH
Quote from: Prime Megaten on November 08, 2015, 09:19:43 PMOk I take it back.
Holy shit shut the fuck up this argument is retarded
That is a cop-out Verb, and you know it. You said that more people have died from moshing than anything else I mentioned: you were wrong. Own up to it.
Cannot wait for my first music festival in BC.Which is next year.What would you say is the best way to prepare for one of these festivals?
And let me remind you here that I'm not arguing how stupid or not-stupid you should think it is. I know better than to do that with you of all people. I'm just pointing out, since the first reply, that your idea of how rampant death is from moshing is massively overstated.
Quote from: Verbatim on November 08, 2015, 09:20:40 PMQuote from: Prime Megaten on November 08, 2015, 09:16:19 PMAnd honestly, if you can't read a crowd, you probably deserve to get punched in the face until you learn.See, this is the kind of logic that really scares me. You start doing stupid shit, you rationalize it, and then you start saying stuff like, "It's not stupid--if you get hurt, you probably deserved it!"...Uh, yeah! If you put yourself in a dangerous position, expect to get hurt. That's what I've been saying. The difference is, you're trying to say that there is a "correct" way to do stupid shit.which is just so UGHIf you're going to swim, you should know if the current is too swift or the waves are too rough just by looking at them/testing them. Otherwise, be prepared to be a proud recipient of the Darwin Award.
Quote from: Winy on November 08, 2015, 09:24:03 PMHoly shit shut the fuck up this argument is retarded2Late, already done talking about it. :^)
To return to the topic: Who was your favorite show there, Nasty?
festival food
and i left the pit without a scratch
Quote from: 🍄Tryptameme🍄 on November 08, 2015, 09:29:58 PMfestival food Water is like $4 a bottle, and a slice of pizza was like $6. Festival vendors are bastard coated bastards with bastard fillings.
AMA just arrived home from my first music festival
