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Are there moshpits at festivals, or is that a rock/Taylor Swift exclusive thing?
well at this specific festival there were three different stages, all with different styles of electric music. the stage that played most of the basshead music was where all the moshing was going on, which was actually really fucking fun to get into.
Moshing is fun. Much better than crowdsurfing, especially when the people closest to the stage are sniveling weaklings.
people die in that shit though


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Are there moshpits at festivals, or is that a rock/Taylor Swift exclusive thing?
well at this specific festival there were three different stages, all with different styles of electric music. the stage that played most of the basshead music was where all the moshing was going on, which was actually really fucking fun to get into.
Moshing is fun. Much better than crowdsurfing, especially when the people closest to the stage are sniveling weaklings.
people die in that shit though
It's not as dangerous as it seems. I've gotten hurt more often from crowdsurfing and circlepits than moshing or walls of death.


 
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Are there moshpits at festivals, or is that a rock/Taylor Swift exclusive thing?
well at this specific festival there were three different stages, all with different styles of electric music. the stage that played most of the basshead music was where all the moshing was going on, which was actually really fucking fun to get into.
Moshing is fun. Much better than crowdsurfing, especially when the people closest to the stage are sniveling weaklings.
people die in that shit though
It's not as dangerous as it seems. I've gotten hurt more often from crowdsurfing and circlepits than moshing or walls of death.
sure, ms. anecdote

"it's not as dangerous as it seems", sure, yet people still die
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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
Are there moshpits at festivals, or is that a rock/Taylor Swift exclusive thing?
well at this specific festival there were three different stages, all with different styles of electric music. the stage that played most of the basshead music was where all the moshing was going on, which was actually really fucking fun to get into.
Moshing is fun. Much better than crowdsurfing, especially when the people closest to the stage are sniveling weaklings.
people die in that shit though
It's not as dangerous as it seems. I've gotten hurt more often from crowdsurfing and circlepits than moshing or walls of death.
sure, ms. anecdote
I'm saying that people don't die as often as you think they do. People die swimming as well, but I'm not going to stop doing it because of that. You can't die if you don't live first.


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What is a mosh pit like? I've never been to any type of concert


 
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Are there moshpits at festivals, or is that a rock/Taylor Swift exclusive thing?
well at this specific festival there were three different stages, all with different styles of electric music. the stage that played most of the basshead music was where all the moshing was going on, which was actually really fucking fun to get into.
Moshing is fun. Much better than crowdsurfing, especially when the people closest to the stage are sniveling weaklings.
people die in that shit though
It's not as dangerous as it seems. I've gotten hurt more often from crowdsurfing and circlepits than moshing or walls of death.
sure, ms. anecdote
I'm saying that people don't die as often as you think they do. People die swimming as well, but I'm not going to stop doing it because of that. You can't die if you don't live first.
you won't die swimming if you're not an idiot

there's no intelligent way to mosh
there just isn't, it's a purely stupid thing to do


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What is a mosh pit like? I've never been to any type of concert
Lots of jumping, pushing, and bouncing.


 
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Are there moshpits at festivals, or is that a rock/Taylor Swift exclusive thing?
well at this specific festival there were three different stages, all with different styles of electric music. the stage that played most of the basshead music was where all the moshing was going on, which was actually really fucking fun to get into.
Moshing is fun. Much better than crowdsurfing, especially when the people closest to the stage are sniveling weaklings.
people die in that shit though
It's not as dangerous as it seems. I've gotten hurt more often from crowdsurfing and circlepits than moshing or walls of death.
sure, ms. anecdote
I'm saying that people don't die as often as you think they do. People die swimming as well, but I'm not going to stop doing it because of that. You can't die if you don't live first.
Oh but some little faggot get killed on a classroom and we all want to ban guns.


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
Are there moshpits at festivals, or is that a rock/Taylor Swift exclusive thing?
well at this specific festival there were three different stages, all with different styles of electric music. the stage that played most of the basshead music was where all the moshing was going on, which was actually really fucking fun to get into.
Moshing is fun. Much better than crowdsurfing, especially when the people closest to the stage are sniveling weaklings.
people die in that shit though
It's not as dangerous as it seems. I've gotten hurt more often from crowdsurfing and circlepits than moshing or walls of death.
sure, ms. anecdote
I'm saying that people don't die as often as you think they do. People die swimming as well, but I'm not going to stop doing it because of that. You can't die if you don't live first.
you won't die swimming if you're not an idiot

there's no intelligent way to mosh
there just isn't, it's a purely stupid thing to do
Moshing itself won't kill you, silly. It's things related to it that do so. Maybe I get a cramp while swimming, or an undercurrent catches me, or someone that's starting to drown carries me down as well while trying to claw up. You can't account for everything; I'm not saying that putting yourself in danger purposefully is ever good, but refusing to live because you'll die is silly too.

It's also why there are more "rules" to moshing now too, by the way. You're supposed to stop if someone falls down (which can happen easily while crowdsurfing as well).
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refusing to live because you'll die is silly too.
Not really.

but whatever

"doing stupid shit" is a pretty piss-poor definition of "live" anyway, tbh


 
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It's also why there are more "rules" to moshing now too, by the way. You're supposed to stop if someone falls down (which can happen easily while crowdsurfing as well).
>stuffed room filled with hyped up morons
>activity based upon unruly behavior
>rules

oh, yeah, i'm sure that works out really well!


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refusing to live because you'll die is silly too.
Not really.

but whatever

"doing stupid shit" is a pretty piss-poor definition of "live" anyway, tbh

You have poor risk benefit analysis


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refusing to live because you'll die is silly too.
Not really.

but whatever
You take the risk of getting a cold when you go out in the rain, the risk of melanoma if you go out without sunscreen, the risk of drowning if you swim. Possible danger isn't the same as significant danger; part of rationality is being able to understand that you aren't guaranteed to die just by taking a walk in the snow, or cooking overy a fire.


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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
It's also why there are more "rules" to moshing now too, by the way. You're supposed to stop if someone falls down (which can happen easily while crowdsurfing as well).
>stuffed room filled with hyped up morons
>activity based upon unruly behavior
>rules

oh, yeah, i'm sure that works out really well!
Yeah, you're kind of misattributing this behavior here. It's done because it's fun and energetic, goes well with the music. If you see someone fall, you stop and help them up. If someone drops their phone/glasses, you stop and help look. If someone wants out, you let them. It's not as instinctive and wildly unruly as you're saying it is.


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Are there moshpits at festivals, or is that a rock/Taylor Swift exclusive thing?
well at this specific festival there were three different stages, all with different styles of electric music. the stage that played most of the basshead music was where all the moshing was going on, which was actually really fucking fun to get into.
Moshing is fun. Much better than crowdsurfing, especially when the people closest to the stage are sniveling weaklings.
it was just so surreal watching almost the entire crowd mosh in-sync with the music and each other. i've never seen anybody crowdsurf but i can assume that it would be a lot more painful to be dropped while crowdsurfing than fall while you're moshing.


 
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refusing to live because you'll die is silly too.
Not really.

but whatever
You take the risk of getting a cold when you go out in the rain, the risk of melanoma if you go out without sunscreen, the risk of drowning if you swim. Possible danger isn't the same as significant danger; part of rationality is being able to understand that you aren't guaranteed to die just by taking a walk in the snow, or cooking overy a fire.
None of these things are tantamount to moshing, though. You're not "refusing to live" if you don't go to mosh pits--you're just intelligent. You aren't "refusing to live" if you go out in the rain--you're just intelligent.

It's easy enough for me to think that, "Hmm, maybe slamming into a bunch of people and stomping around could potentially severely injure somebody, if not kill them" than it is for me to visualize the possibility of me getting struck by lightning, and you're basically comparing those two things right now, and it's kinda silly.


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
Are there moshpits at festivals, or is that a rock/Taylor Swift exclusive thing?
well at this specific festival there were three different stages, all with different styles of electric music. the stage that played most of the basshead music was where all the moshing was going on, which was actually really fucking fun to get into.
Moshing is fun. Much better than crowdsurfing, especially when the people closest to the stage are sniveling weaklings.
it was just so surreal watching almost the entire crowd mosh in-sync with the music and each other. i've never seen anybody crowdsurf but i can assume that it would be a lot more painful to be dropped while crowdsurfing than fall while you're moshing.
Yes and no. I got dropped head-first at a concert I went to Friday. Turns out there were two other people crowd surfing in my direction and we all collided into each other. Thankfully people are cognicant of their surroundings; the people around us stopped and helped us back onto our feet.


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He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
refusing to live because you'll die is silly too.
Not really.

but whatever
You take the risk of getting a cold when you go out in the rain, the risk of melanoma if you go out without sunscreen, the risk of drowning if you swim. Possible danger isn't the same as significant danger; part of rationality is being able to understand that you aren't guaranteed to die just by taking a walk in the snow, or cooking overy a fire.
None of these things are tantamount to moshing, though. You're not "refusing to live" if you don't go to mosh pits--you're just intelligent. You aren't "refusing to live" if you go out in the rain--you're just intelligent.

It's easy enough for me to think that, "Hmm, maybe slamming into a bunch of people and stomping around could potentially severely injure somebody, if not kill them" than it is for me to visualize the possibility of me getting struck by lightning, and you're basically comparing those two things right now, and it's kinda silly.
I'm not comparing them, I'm specifically pointing out how silly it is to say "people died doing that before". People have died going to see a movie. Point is that it doesn't happen often enough to pose a significant risk.


 
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Yes and no. I got dropped head-first at a concert I went to Friday. Turns out there were two other people crowd surfing in my direction and we all collided into each other. Thankfully people are cognicant of their surroundings; the people around us stopped and helped us back onto our feet.
Which, of course, doesn't take away the fact that you hit your head.


 
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I'm not comparing them, I'm specifically pointing out how silly it is to say "people died doing that before". People have died going to see a movie. Point is that it doesn't happen often enough to pose a significant risk.
I guarantee more people have died moshing than any other example you've given so far. Even still, there's no such thing as an insignificant risk.
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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
Yes and no. I got dropped head-first at a concert I went to Friday. Turns out there were two other people crowd surfing in my direction and we all collided into each other. Thankfully people are cognicant of their surroundings; the people around us stopped and helped us back onto our feet.
Which, of course, doesn't take away the fact that you hit your head.
Head-first, not landed on my head; the people under us tried to catch us. Ended up awkwardly being semi-lowered to the ground instead.


 
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Yes and no. I got dropped head-first at a concert I went to Friday. Turns out there were two other people crowd surfing in my direction and we all collided into each other. Thankfully people are cognicant of their surroundings; the people around us stopped and helped us back onto our feet.
Which, of course, doesn't take away the fact that you hit your head.
Head-first, not landed on my head; the people under us tried to catch us. Ended up awkwardly being semi-lowered to the ground instead.
Fun!


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Only Verbatim can de-fun a thread with pseudointellectual knowledge about shit he's never done


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
I'm not comparing them, I'm specifically pointing out how silly it is to say "people died doing that before". People have died going to see a movie. Point is that it doesn't happen often enough to pose a significant risk.
I guarantee more people have died moshing than any other example you've given so far. There's no such thing as an insignificant risk.
A grand total of nine deaths between 1996 and 2004. And the crowd goes mild. The reason that I don't provide one covering the years since? Google just gives me a lot of moshing videos.
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I'm not comparing them, I'm specifically pointing out how silly it is to say "people died doing that before". People have died going to see a movie. Point is that it doesn't happen often enough to pose a significant risk.
I guarantee more people have died moshing than any other example you've given so far. There's no such thing as an insignificant risk.
A grand total of nine deaths between 1996 and 2004. And the crowd goes mild.
- Nine deaths too much. "Mild" would be 0 deaths and only deaths.
- Doesn't account for the years between '04 and now.
- I'd like your source.

http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4804513&page=1
Found it. It also cites 10,000 injuries.

Yeah, moshing is retarded.
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I'm not comparing them, I'm specifically pointing out how silly it is to say "people died doing that before". People have died going to see a movie. Point is that it doesn't happen often enough to pose a significant risk.
I guarantee more people have died moshing than any other example you've given so far. There's no such thing as an insignificant risk.
A grand total of nine deaths between 1996 and 2004. And the crowd goes mild.

I love it when niggas get fact checked

It's on par with releasing piss after two days


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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
I'm not comparing them, I'm specifically pointing out how silly it is to say "people died doing that before". People have died going to see a movie. Point is that it doesn't happen often enough to pose a significant risk.
I guarantee more people have died moshing than any other example you've given so far. There's no such thing as an insignificant risk.
A grand total of nine deaths between 1996 and 2004. And the crowd goes mild.
- Nine deaths too much.
- Doesn't account for the years between '04 and now.
- I'd like your source.
-That's kind of backpedalling from "its more than you think".
-I can't find anything more recent that relates to death. Link it if you find more recent information.
-http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4804513&page=1. And every time I'm seeing them bring up injuries, they are crowd-surfing related.


 
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I'm not comparing them, I'm specifically pointing out how silly it is to say "people died doing that before". People have died going to see a movie. Point is that it doesn't happen often enough to pose a significant risk.
I guarantee more people have died moshing than any other example you've given so far. There's no such thing as an insignificant risk.
A grand total of nine deaths between 1996 and 2004. And the crowd goes mild.
I love it when niggas get fact checked

It's on par with releasing piss after two days
Too bad her source only helps me, because I'm not concerned with just deaths. Injuries are important, too.

10,000 annual injuries.

That's too much to be considered intelligent.
http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4804513&page=1

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As many as 50 concertgoers at New Jersey's Bamboozle Festival this weekend reportedly sought medical attention after a mosh pit got out of hand.

Witnesses reported seeing several of the 70,000 attendants treating bloody noses and worse, getting carried out on stretchers.

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The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
Yes, and then go back and read that literally everything they say relating to injury is a result of "falling from six or seven feet" or an actual quote directly after that statistic you just claimed: "There is no way to crowd surf or stage dive safely consistently".

The injuries are mostly attributed to crowdsurfing, not moshing. Which is very confusing thay the article doesn't seem to make a difference in terms; they're two different things.


 
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-That's kind of backpedalling from "its more than you think".
-I can't find anything more recent that relates to death. Link it if you find more recent information.
-http://abcnews.go.com/Health/story?id=4804513&page=1. And every time I'm seeing them bring up injuries, they are crowd-surfing related.
- I never said it was more than you think, though? I said the fact that people die--at all--makes it a stupid activity. It's not a freak accident--what you are doing is dangerous by its very nature.
- They use the term "crowd-surfing" three times in the article, Aria. Never was it in reference to any specific number of injuries.

Just admit that it's stupid.