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Have you heard of the Greater Good?

Quote from: Caped Baldy on March 16, 2016, 11:37:09 PM

Quote from: LC on March 16, 2016, 11:18:25 PM

Reminder that the Imperium of Man is the one that gives no shits about it's citizens and regularly uses them as cannon fodder when they aren't subjecting everyone who isn't in the upper echelons of society into abject poverty.

Reminder that humans are offered a meaningful place in the Tau Empire and their lives are valued as they're allowed to pursue their own interests and are free to worship the emperor if they so choose so long as it doesn't negatively impact the rest of society.

Reminder that more worlds are joining the Tau Empire every day due to being disillusioned with the Empire of Man and wanting to be part of a system that actually values them.

Reminder that the tau are communist space weebs.

Reminder that the tau will wipe your world clean of life if you refuse to join.

Reminder that the tau will put you into a concentration camp if they think it's for their Greater Good.

Reminder that the tau are implied to mind-control their citizens into obedience.

Reminder that the tau are communist space weebs.

Capitalism clearly exists in the Tau Empire due to the presence of the Water Caste.

Not true, there are many worlds that brought into Tau septs via conquering and didn't have their world cleansed of life.

The sterilization and concentration camp shit is from a non-canon ending of Dark Crusade

IoM propaganda with nothing actually supporting it as fact in fluff.

Capitalism clearly exists in the Tau Empire due to the presence of the Water Caste.

literal kike caste

ayy lmao
Join us or we kill you.

okay noelle, read your ciaphas you silly gook

Nicassar, read your fluff you silly gook

literal kike caste

Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on March 17, 2016, 02:36:08 PM

Quote from: LC on March 16, 2016, 11:45:05 PM

Quote from: Caped Baldy on March 16, 2016, 11:37:09 PM

Quote from: LC on March 16, 2016, 11:18:25 PM

Reminder that the Imperium of Man is the one that gives no shits about it's citizens and regularly uses them as cannon fodder when they aren't subjecting everyone who isn't in the upper echelons of society into abject poverty.

Reminder that humans are offered a meaningful place in the Tau Empire and their lives are valued as they're allowed to pursue their own interests and are free to worship the emperor if they so choose so long as it doesn't negatively impact the rest of society.

Reminder that more worlds are joining the Tau Empire every day due to being disillusioned with the Empire of Man and wanting to be part of a system that actually values them.

Reminder that the tau are communist space weebs.

Reminder that the tau will wipe your world clean of life if you refuse to join.

Reminder that the tau will put you into a concentration camp if they think it's for their Greater Good.

Reminder that the tau are implied to mind-control their citizens into obedience.

Reminder that the tau are communist space weebs.

Capitalism clearly exists in the Tau Empire due to the presence of the Water Caste.

Not true, there are many worlds that brought into Tau septs via conquering and didn't have their world cleansed of life.

The sterilization and concentration camp shit is from a non-canon ending of Dark Crusade

IoM propaganda with nothing actually supporting it as fact in fluff.

Capitalism clearly exists in the Tau Empire due to the presence of the Water Caste.

literal kike caste

ayy lmao
Join us or we kill you.

okay noelle, read your ciaphas you silly gook

Nicassar, read your fluff you silly gook

literal kike caste

The Nicassar used only as space fairing scouts for the Tau and have fuck all to do with the daily operations of the Empire. They were literally made for the Battlefleet Gothic game so that the Tau could have more ships. Implications of mind control of the Vespid and Saturday morning cartoon villian antics from the Ethereal were only done after spehs mahrine fanboys got butthurt over the existence of the tau.

The Tau have also had peaceful and willing worlds joins via request after receiving more help and benefits from the Tau Empire than they have the IoM and unlike the IoM the Tau Empire almost always requests a peaceful end to hostilities before actually engaging in combat. Almost always referring to things not written by matt ward and species have been deemed as beyond saving, ie the greenskins. And even if that sterilization camp shit was canon, it's still better than what would have happened to humans that rebelled against the Imperium.

Niggas just mad that the Tau Empire has been the least shitty place to live in the 40k universe since their introduction.


Regardless though.

Spoiler

Reminder of what we can do when we work together.

'Space faring scouts' that are one of, if not the most, potent psyker races in existence.

So you keep saying since the dawn of time, but you've never actually proven that's why they added that fluff. Chances are it was just added because 40k isn't meant to have any happy endings, even the imperium's (donald) trump card happy ending has been put on ice since 2nd edition (I think).

requests a peaceful end to hostilities before actually engaging in combat.

read your ciaphas
don't just link the poster cover lad

Or hell, since GW decided to stop printing all of them you can always look up the damocles gulf fluff. You know, where the tau decided to start land grabbing like americans and pissed off the imperium?

The issue isn't that there is a happy place in 40k, it's that it's a complete lie. Followers of chaos are in joyous rapture for all of their deviant existence right up until the point their souls get turned into daemon kibbles.

The tau are shit, just like the rest of the universe. They might be clean and shiny shit, but it's still shit when you wipe away the propaganda.

Hell just look at the caste structure for why it's not even close to pleasant.

The only thing the tau have going for them is that the entire race are blanks.

Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on March 17, 2016, 03:37:23 PM

You actually have any proof that the Nicassar mind control? From what I've seen they were basically introduced for Gothic then forgotten about. In fact the only references to Nicassar mind control that I can dig up are on fansites that are making up their own units and abilities for them.

GW intended the Tau to be an optimistic, yet naive faction in a grimdark future. They only took on a bit of an Orwellian flavor after the negative reactions from their biggest whales. This is why changes were made in the 6th edition to their lore.

By peaceful end to hostilities I meant the ask for the enemy to surrender before killing them, which is a lot better than the Imperiums kill em all and let the emperor sort them out attitude.

Also when the Tau take a world by force that's essentially been abandoned by the Imperium they're entirely correct that if they don't do it something else will and that world would be a hell of a lot worse off without their protection.

I never said anything about a happy place or even a good place, I said that the Tau Empire is the least shitty place.

It's psykers 101
High tier psychics can use mind control, either in direct thought manipulation (puppetry) or subversion (planting ideas/shaping beliefs). An A++ psyker is able to bend the thoughts of an entire planet to it's will, should it wish. That's why the imperium rounds up any and all latent psykers for assessment and indoctrination. Rogue psykers cause all kinds of merry hell, eisenhorn/ravenor go into a lot of detail about the dangers of them.

In terms of cross species telepathy/mind altering etc, the Cabal are an easy example from the heresy era. They are the ones who used the Acuity to warp Alpharius/Omegon to Chaos.

[citation needed]
They introduced a lot of changes to a lot of things, none of it was based off of customer feedback. GW does zero market research, and the only notable instance of them doing anything based off of consumer outrage was they revived a bunch of the older side-games after a 20k petition asking them to focus on the games aspect of their business model rather than shiny red ball.

Again, read your ciaphas. They initiated hostilities on a planet that was trading with them, to take full control and oust the imperium. Then the nids rolled into town and they realised that rather than fighting the guard over a doomed planet, they should be working together to GTFO.

''essentially abandoned''
The imperium doesn't have 24/7 access to it's empire, some systems go centuries without hearing from terra and remain a part of the imperium. The governor of each world is the imperium, just because the spess mehrens haven't showed up every other day doesn't mean the baboons can call dibs.

It's not though.
the least shitty, objectively speaking, place in the 40k galaxy are the exodite worlds
and of course Holy Terra.