God's Not Dead (movie) has some truth behind it

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One of the first things you learn in Biology:
You cannot prove or disprove the existence of God.
Because you cannot "recreate" the origin of life in a lab, which is necessary for a reliable experiment.

/thread


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The Book: The Babel fish is small, yellow, leechlike, and probably the oddest thing in the Universe. It feeds on brainwave energy received not from its own carrier but from those around it. It absorbs all unconscious mental frequencies from this brainwave energy to nourish itself with. It then excretes into the mind of its carrier a telepathic matrix formed by combining the conscious thought frequencies with nerve signals picked up from the speech centers of the brain which has supplied them. The practical upshot of all this is that if you stick a Babel fish in your ear you can instantly understand anything said to you in any form of language. The speech patterns you actually hear decode the brainwave matrix which has been fed into your mind by your Babel fish.
Now it is such a bizarrely improbable coincidence that anything so mind-bogglingly useful could have evolved purely by chance that some thinkers have chosen to see it as a final and clinching proof of the NON-existence of God.
The argument goes like this:
`I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, `for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'
`But,' says Man, `The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.'
`Oh dear,' says God, `I hadn't thought of that,' and promptly disappears in a puff of logic.
`Oh, that was easy,' says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.
Most leading theologians claim that this argument is a load of dingo's kidneys, but that didn't stop Oolon Colluphid making a small fortune when he used it as the central theme of his best-selling book, "Well, That about Wraps It Up for God."
Meanwhile, the poor Babel fish, by effectively removing all barriers to communication between different races and cultures, has caused more and bloodier wars than anything else in the history of creation.


/FUCKING THREAD


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If there is a creator God then I think it/he/she would look like this:





 
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wat

My quote just won the thread. Full-stop


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Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy reference :P
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If there is a creator God
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One of the first things you learn in Biology:
You cannot prove or disprove the existence of God.
Because you cannot "recreate" the origin of life in a lab, which is necessary for a reliable experiment.

/thread

Yet.

At the ridiculous rate science is booming now, it won't be long before things like that start to happen. Especially when you factor in China, a country with no major abrahamic religious ties to hinder/stall ethically questionable experiments or to pursue the origin of life.

Hell, we've already started growing human brains in petri dishes. Whether or not that actually proves the existence/lack of god remains to be seen but I doubt it will make much difference one way or another. A lot of dogma might be called into question but I doubt that being able to create life in a science lab would emphatically prove the existence/lack thereof of a higher power.


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Literally no philosophy class I've ever taken actually discusses stuff. Invariably they only talk about The great philosophers, and the big concepts. Oddly, they do not encourage independent thought.


 
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One of the first things you learn in Biology:
You cannot prove or disprove the existence of God.
Because you cannot "recreate" the origin of life in a lab, which is necessary for a reliable experiment.

/thread

I don't know what kind of biology class you were taking because mine didn't teach that at all due to the fact that religion has no place in a science classroom.


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I don't know what kind of biology class you were taking because mine didn't teach that at all due to the fact that religion has no place in a science classroom.

That's the point.
They touched on this, then that was it.
No more religious discussion.

But it's true, we can't recreate the origin of life.


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Umm just because it hasn't been done doesn't mean it can't be done. Life is not easy to create, it would require a very complex structure at its most basic level. Life on earth took the entire ocean and millions of years to start. A few labs with in a matter of decades wouldn't seem to be sufficient. Anyway, the point is that 'hasn't happened' =/= 'can't happen.'

We can try to recreate life: but not the origin of life.
It's already happened. We won't have another "origin of life".
Even if there are mass extinctions, they aren't TOTAL extinctions where ALL LIFE is wiped out.

We can't observe, therefore recreate and perform experiments on the origin of life.


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When I was in Sapphire, Harlow used to talk about his philosophy class was God has no evidence.
I don't believe him. I've been through three university level Philosophy classes. Two at UCSD, one at a community college. In none of them did we have an open discussion about atheism.


 
 
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I would really like it if you reworded that.

The way it sounds now implies that morality stems from religion, especially abrahamic religion, and that without it one can have no ethics. You and I know that's not true, but there ARE people on this forum who honestly believe that, and the last thing we need to do is make them feel like we agree with them.

Yeah this is what happens when you post late at night after a long day <.<
I basically had my foot in my mouth all night lol.

Of course morality and ethics aren't solely derived from abrahamic religions, but the morals and ethics they teach are widely spread throughout the western populations. It''s hamstrung and hindered science for a long time with the phrase 'playing god'. I'm not exactly anti-religion, but I am of the mind to keep it the fuck out of science labs.

Cloning was the example that half came to mind last night, the west has basically pussied out on it while China is (figuratively) screaming balls to the wall and cloning everything short of people. I expect they'll clone them soon enough as well. So whilst their lack of/different set of ethics (Mostly from Confucian thinking iirc) allows them to launch themselves forwards in areas like science, they are lacking the whole socialist humanitarian approach. Life is cheaper than food in China ._.

Hopefully that's better <.<


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