Quote from: Verbatim on November 23, 2017, 07:07:30 AM"getting over an addiction is hard, you don't know what that's like"even though i'm- more depressed than you- more socially anxious than you- poorer than you- have less friends than you- have less skills than you- have less of an overall reason to live and be sober than you- have sustained this sorry state of existence for a MUCH greater period of time than youand yet i still have the strength of will not to indulge in anything, because i just kick that much ass i guesswhere is my ovationthis is embarrassing
"getting over an addiction is hard, you don't know what that's like"even though i'm- more depressed than you- more socially anxious than you- poorer than you- have less friends than you- have less skills than you- have less of an overall reason to live and be sober than you- have sustained this sorry state of existence for a MUCH greater period of time than youand yet i still have the strength of will not to indulge in anything, because i just kick that much ass i guesswhere is my ovation
and yet i still have the strength of will not to indulge in anything, because i just kick that much ass i guess
Quote from: Sแดสแดษดแดษชแด on November 23, 2017, 07:51:02 AMnobody cares about people who have never struggledand drug addicts and alcoholics have NEVER struggledif the struggle is something you levied on yourself, then it's not a struggle at all, and you don't deserve anythingif anything, people should mock you for the rest of your life for ever putting yourself in that position when it is SO FUCKING EASY not to
nobody cares about people who have never struggled
Quote from: Verbatim on November 23, 2017, 07:07:30 AMand yet i still have the strength of will not to indulge in anything, because i just kick that much ass i guessThis looks like something Deci would say
Quote from: Verbatim on November 23, 2017, 07:07:30 AMQuick question, broHow well can you relate to Adam's Song and Stay Together For the Kids?
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 23, 2017, 07:04:36 PMQuote from: Verbatim on November 23, 2017, 07:07:30 AMQuick question, broHow well can you relate to Adam's Song and Stay Together For the Kids?I once spilled apple juice in the hall
Quote from: Sแดสแดษดแดษชแด on November 23, 2017, 07:11:25 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 23, 2017, 07:04:36 PMQuote from: Verbatim on November 23, 2017, 07:07:30 AMQuick question, broHow well can you relate to Adam's Song and Stay Together For the Kids?I once spilled apple juice in the hallbrahits not your fault
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 23, 2017, 07:15:49 PMQuote from: Sแดสแดษดแดษชแด on November 23, 2017, 07:11:25 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 23, 2017, 07:04:36 PMQuote from: Verbatim on November 23, 2017, 07:07:30 AMQuick question, broHow well can you relate to Adam's Song and Stay Together For the Kids?I once spilled apple juice in the hallbrahits not your faultdid...did you just call me mommy...
brah
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on November 23, 2017, 07:15:49 PMbrahdo me a favour and never say this again
veganism is cool and all, but if you've ever eaten meat then you're forever a piece of shit regardless of how long you've been meat free tbh.
Quote from: Me on November 23, 2017, 09:12:48 PMveganism is cool and all, but if you've ever eaten meat then you're forever a piece of shit regardless of how long you've been meat free tbh.Basicallythere's no way to undo any crime, and no way to demonstrate the veracity one's atonementso of what purpose is forgiveness
so of what purpose is forgiveness, especially when nobody actually seems to care anyway
tbh good job on stirring up activity. Seems like there's been as many posts in this thread since yesterday as there's been on the Flood all week.
Quote from: Verbatim on November 23, 2017, 09:33:44 PMso of what purpose is forgiveness, especially when nobody actually seems to care anywayForgiveness is earned. There's a reason why being sober for a year is something that gets congratulated, whereas being sober for two days is ignored at best and still scorned at worst. It's because committing to the path of correcting one's mistakes is more certain the longer it's maintained. Everything boils down to habits; if you're in the habit of doing heroin, then a few days not doing it just means that-- even if you're trying-- you could still quite easily relapse without any noticeable difference to the schedule of disappointments. If you go five years without doing heroin, it means the person put in enough effort to stop being a disappointment, and that should be congratulated.Really, the applause isn't for being drug-free, it's for not being a burden anymore (whether it be emotional, financial, physical, etc). And continuing to punish people for things they have either pushed through, or are pushing through, seems pretty counter-productive. I'm not saying give uncle Das $500 for not touching kids for a week, but maybe give him a shoulder pat when he admits that the supermarket giving him back incorrect change wasn't a Zionist conspiracy.
Quote from: Me on November 23, 2017, 09:58:24 PMtbh good job on stirring up activity. Seems like there's been as many posts in this thread since yesterday as there's been on the Flood all week.wow. you two are something else.
Bruh, you lost an argument on the internet, it's not that bad.
but for how difficult it is for most people to be sober, maintaining sobriety for perhaps someone as long as i have starts looking more and more like a genuine praiseworthy... attribute (if not achievement or accomplishment), if you ask me
Quote from: Verbatim on November 23, 2017, 10:28:15 PMbut for how difficult it is for most people to be sober, maintaining sobriety for perhaps someone as long as i have starts looking more and more like a genuine praiseworthy... attribute (if not achievement or accomplishment), if you ask meAt that point, you're just embodying the idea of total legal normalcy. Not to say that it's being "average" since that would have involved trying a drug at least once or twice, but the kind of person who's in the middle.I say the middle instead of the other side because the opposite of "addict getting clean" would be "the person who helps addicts get clean". The most positive and productive way to be validated for sobriety is to help others make the same choice. It's a weird thing to say, but being sober is something most useful when it's spread rather than upheld by a few.I'm not saying you need to become a registered therapist and go run AA meetings, but simply helping the people you know make the right choice works. It's the people to either side that get noticed, not the ones in the middle; if you want recognition, you can be recognized for helping people get clean.
you don't like my methods, but you're not supposed to like my methods