Meanwhile, I will enjoy actually being an ethical person. It's pretty fucking sweet.

Meanwhile, I will enjoy eating meat and not caring.

And lol, you can't really claim to be ethically superior, considering you'd kill everyone on Earth if you could.

Quote from: Verbatim on May 31, 2015, 08:19:00 PM

Meanwhile, I will enjoy actually being an ethical person. It's pretty fucking sweet.

Meanwhile, I will enjoy eating meat and not caring.

And lol, you can't really claim to be ethically superior, considering you'd kill everyone on Earth if you could.

Anti natalists aren't killing anything, just not replenishing a finite resource, really.

Quote from: Lemön on May 31, 2015, 08:25:50 PM

And lol, you can't really claim to be ethically superior, considering you'd kill everyone on Earth if you could.

*the universe

There's nothing unethical about preventing ALL suffering for the rest of time.

Killing off an entire species is extremely unethical

Anti natalists aren't killing anything, just not replenishing a finite resource, really.

He's referring to the red button here, though. I've expressed in the past that I'd probably press it.

Quote from: Lemön on May 31, 2015, 08:27:27 PM

Killing off an entire species is extremely unethical

>an entire species

No. ALL life.

That can't possibly be unethical.

that's even more unethical

that's even more unethical

Nope.

Quote from: Lemön on May 31, 2015, 08:29:25 PM

that's even more unethical

Nope.

Murder is inherently unethical.

Quote from: Lemön on May 31, 2015, 08:29:25 PM

that's even more unethical

Nope.

i mean, it's the most unethical thing you could do, but whatever

you can't claim to be ethically superior by being a vegan, yet would willingly kill all life in existence. it's a huge contradiction.

Quote from: SecondClass on May 31, 2015, 08:31:46 PM

Murder is inherently unethical.

LOL

Okay? It is.

Death is probably good. Gets you away from this shit planet. Gets you away from your shit life, and your shit addictions. You won't go anywhere, but who cares?

And you call me a pessimist. Life is what you make it, and you can make it good.

Quote from: Lemön on May 31, 2015, 08:32:14 PM

i mean, it's the most unethical thing you could do, but whatever

you can't claim to be ethically superior by being a vegan, yet would willingly kill all life in existence. it's a huge contradiction.

It would only be unethical if I made everyone suffer, and THEN die.

Death isn't bad. Death is probably good. Gets you away from this shit planet. Gets you away from your shit life, and your shit addictions. You won't go anywhere, but who cares?

If things are so shit why do you carry on?

Quote from: Verbatim on May 31, 2015, 08:34:37 PM

Quote from: Lemön on May 31, 2015, 08:32:14 PM

i mean, it's the most unethical thing you could do, but whatever

you can't claim to be ethically superior by being a vegan, yet would willingly kill all life in existence. it's a huge contradiction.

It would only be unethical if I made everyone suffer, and THEN die.

Death isn't bad. Death is probably good. Gets you away from this shit planet. Gets you away from your shit life, and your shit addictions. You won't go anywhere, but who cares?

If things are so shit why do you carry on?

Can't preach from a grave, son.

Quote from: Jive Turkey on May 31, 2015, 08:35:07 PM

Isn't it ethical for me to kill an animal and eat it then? Since it will end the animals suffering . It's the most ethical thing I could do

Only if it is suffering, I suppose. But no one really thinks like that.

Yes but to you we're all suffering, and death is ending that....soooo

Okay? It is.

You can't think of ONE scenario where it would be okay to kill someone.

Life is what you make it, and you can make it good.

Please tell that to a starving Ethiopian.

If things are so shit why do you carry on?

Because I have to make use of the time I have to be an advocate for the things I believe in and hold dear. I have to spread my ideas, or they'll never come to fruition. Not like I have much of a choice--we have no free will. I'm gonna read my script.

Quote from: Pendulate on May 31, 2015, 06:44:09 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on May 31, 2015, 06:19:29 PM

At the end of the day, preservation of humanity is all that matters.

And your logical basis for this belief would be?

It's kind of ingrained into the very fabric of our being...
Trying to find logical reasoning for either the preservation or extermination of humanity is ultimately pointless.

"Ingrained into the fabric of our thinking" is not a logical defense. You're appealing entirely to emotion: "I feel this way, and my feelings are never wrong".