Quote from: Madman Mordo on May 31, 2015, 07:25:11 PM

it doesn't make you any more correct.

Because he doesn't need to be any more correct.

You done jerking him off yet?

I dont see Deers building rockets capable of intercepting world ending astroids, or atempting to cure desease.

You're not doing that. Most of the human race isn't doing that. Are you saying we should shoot, kill, and eat humans?

Quote from: Madman Mordo on May 31, 2015, 07:27:11 PM

You done jerking him off yet?

You done eating our shit yet?

I'm not a vagina, so no, sorry.

Quote from: Majestic Star Dragon on May 31, 2015, 07:26:18 PM

I dont see Deers building rockets capable of intercepting world ending astroids, or atempting to cure desease.

You're not doing that. Most of the human race isn't doing that. Are you saying we should shoot, kill, and eat humans?

You'd like that wouldnt you. And thank you for not reading anything beyond that.
(I'll be studdying engeneering and science btw. Space travel has always been my dream)

I disagree.

I know you do, but you've really never went any further than that. I can't comprehend why anyone would disagree, and I normally wouldn't be this pushy, but this is a really important issue in my opinion.

We're the most intelligent species on the planet. You honestly don't think this gives us the responsibility to protect all sentient life?

You'd like that wouldnt you.

Uh. No. I wouldn't. Thanks for the useless, petty slander.

And thank you for not reading anything beyond that.

The rest of it only built off of your initial premise, which was shit. If your premise is shit, everything following that premise is going to be shit.

(I'll be studdying engeneering and science btw. Space travel has always been my dream)

I couldn't care less. Sorry.

People who respond to an argument solely with "Wrong." should be banned from having an opinion on anything.

There is no arguing with a nihilist. None. That is the most fruitless endeavor I could possibly think of, next to arguing with a religious nut. We're going to get absolutely nowhere, because you're an idiot who thinks only the self matters. Which is wrong.

Until you concede that you're wrong, we really can't discuss a goddamn motherfucking THING, because I'm always going to be arguing from the perspective of an individual who actually gives a fuck about the implications of having a planet filled with all this sentient life.

Quote from: SecondClass on May 31, 2015, 07:37:47 PM

People who respond to an argument solely with "Wrong." should be banned from having an opinion on anything.

There is no arguing with a nihilist. None. That is the most fruitless endeavor I could possibly think of, next to arguing with a religious nut. We're not going to get absolutely anywhere, because you're an idiot who thinks only the self matters. Which is wrong.

Until you concede that you're wrong, we really can't discuss a goddamn motherfucking THING, because I'm always going to be arguing from the perspective of an individual who actually gives a fuck about the implications of having a planet filled with all this sentient life.

I'm not a nihilist. Nihilism is not believing in anything, but I believe in a lot of things. Most specifically, the superiority of our species above all else. You're a human, you don't need to care about anything that's not going to affect your race.

lol
who gives a fuck? they're just dumb animals

but lemon . We have to save all the animals fror when verb saves us from our miseerable evistance by blowing up the universe. (dont ask how it makes sence. Verb is the only one who's right, we are all just dumb cunts so trust him)

Whatever it takes to make you feel important, man.

I couldn't feel less important. I live in a world containing hundreds of billions of sentient creatures. I am among the least important things on the planet. Especially from my own perspective.

FUCK self-interest.

Quote from: DAS "كافر" B00T on May 31, 2015, 07:34:23 PM

I disagree.

I know you do, but you've really never went any further than that. I can't comprehend why anyone would disagree, and I normally wouldn't be this pushy, but this is a really important issue in my opinion.

We're the most intelligent species on the planet. You honestly don't think this gives us the responsibility to protect all sentient life?

So long as there are starving or poor, no. Humanity should come first as humans have the largest capacity to feel suffering, right?
Now, that's not to say that we should be out exterminating everything to feed Africans.Animals are a resource, replenishable, but finite at any given moment.  If man is to live for centuries beyond us, we have to maintain the ecosystem in a stable condition. This does include playing the role of God sometimes, as we've fucked some things up, and we will continue to do so. Populations need to be checked, other populations need to be recovered, and people need easy access to food.
Now, in the end of it all, when the capitalist system creates a post-scarcity situation in which a socialist gift economy thrives solely because there is no labor to be done by any man, then we really have no excuse to not solely eat manufactured nutrients that contain no animal or plant byproduct.

Remember, plants react to stimuli/pain too.

Am sorry for ramble, am drinking.

Quote from: Lemön on May 31, 2015, 07:40:22 PM

lol
who gives a fuck? they're just dumb animals

but lemon . We have to save all the animals fror when verb saves us from our miseerable evistance by blowing up the universe. (dont ask how it makes sence. Verb is the only one who's right, we are all just dumb cunts so trust him)

you should study english before you become an engineer

Quote from: Verbatim on May 31, 2015, 07:45:22 PM

I'm ethically superior to you.

Whatever it takes to make you feel important, man.

I find it funny how he honestly thinks he is the greatest person in the word and that literaly eveybody else is some kind of pleb

So long as there are starving or poor, no. Humanity should come first as humans have the largest capacity to feel suffering, right?

No, I don't think so. If they did, you'd have a point, but if you strap a human and a chimpanzee to a gurney and stuck a knife in both of their chests, the amount of suffering endured will be indistinguishable. Same with a deer, same with a cow, same with a pig. There's no basis for the assumption that humans have a higher capacity to suffer than animals.

Now, in the end of it all, when the capitalist system creates a post-scarcity situation in which a socialist gift economy thrives solely because there is no labor to be done by any man, then we really have no excuse to not solely eat manufactured nutrients that contain no animal or plant byproduct.

Remember, plants react to stimuli/pain too.

They don't, though. Pendulate happens to be a yearning biologist, from what I know, so he might be able to provide some proof for that, but I feel like we've been over this already. Plants lack a central nervous system to administer the sensation of pain, as well as a brain to comprehend it. It's feasibly impossible (and evolutionarily nonsensical) for plants to feel pain. They may respond to stimuli, but this in itself does not necessitate pain.

I'm not intolerant towards you though.

You're bigoted towards animals. You're a speciesist.