Is Negan a truly bad guy?

MyNameIsCharlie · December 10, 2016, 12:47:46 AM

I mean he is bringing society back together. Is it ideal? No. But could the world be put back together perfectly after a zombie apocalypse?

Think about it. Everything has gone to shit. The only thing that keeps you alive is the sheer will to survive. Then you meet Negan. He gives you a place in the world and a place and role in it. Sure, he's cruel. He takes a lot. But you have safety and rules to live by. Moreover, he's predictable. Give him his due and you live. Break them and pay. Is that really any different than how it is now? Lose your job and you lose your ability to pay bills or get healthcare. The only difference is the timeframe.

My point is the Walking Dead writers are villainizing what makes us, us. We follow rules or pay. We have people over us we may not like. But life goes on. And we live.

big dog · December 10, 2016, 03:47:51 AM

There was a pretty good post on Reddit about how the situation in each season represents a different age of civilisation, including Negan.

Spartan · December 10, 2016, 06:21:46 AM

He's /ourguy/

DAS B00T x2 · December 10, 2016, 09:06:08 AM

Negan for president 2020

Onion · December 10, 2016, 10:14:56 AM

He's the hero

Dapper Droid · December 10, 2016, 11:27:54 AM

>Rick kills over 50 people
>Daryl Blows up like 10 people

>Negan kills 1 guy as punishment
>Daryl punches Negan
>Negan kills Nip
>Offers Daryl refuge and wants to be friends with Rick
>Does everything he can to be Rick's friend in the comics

Negan is bad you guys.

Dietrich Six · December 10, 2016, 11:30:00 AM

Quote from: Dapper Droid on December 10, 2016, 11:27:54 AM

>Rick kills over 50 people
>Daryl Blows up like 10 people

>Negan kills 1 guy as punishment
>Daryl punches Negan
>Negan kills Nip
>Offers Daryl refuge and wants to be friends with Rick
>Does everything he can to be Rick's friend in the comics

Negan is bad you guys.

Negan took Rick killing a fuck ton of his men surprisingly well.

big dog · December 10, 2016, 11:43:07 AM

Quote from: Dapper Droid on December 10, 2016, 11:27:54 AM

>Rick kills over 50 people
>Daryl Blows up like 10 people

>Negan kills 1 guy as punishment
>Daryl punches Negan
>Negan kills Nip
>Offers Daryl refuge and wants to be friends with Rick
>Does everything he can to be Rick's friend in the comics

Negan is bad you guys.

Don't forget he also got rid of that one guy who had the guts to betray Rick.

Genghis Khan · December 10, 2016, 02:34:41 PM

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big dog · December 10, 2016, 03:42:18 PM

Buddy, are you still there?

December 10, 2016, 04:40:29 PM

Fuck Negan. Just finished episode 3 and I already hate him.

"Hehe I said pee-pee LOL"

apparently he's 12 years old, which would make sense to why he's so childish, violent, and obsessed with himself

December 10, 2016, 04:41:38 PM

also, of course he's a rapist, too

can't be well liked in america without that

DAS B00T x2 · December 10, 2016, 04:47:31 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on December 10, 2016, 04:41:38 PM

also, of course he's a rapist, too

can't be well liked in america without that

Can't rape your wife, bro

big dog · December 10, 2016, 05:05:34 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on December 10, 2016, 04:40:29 PM

Fuck Negan. Just finished episode 3 and I already hate him.

"Hehe I said pee-pee LOL"

apparently he's 12 years old, which would make sense to why he's so childish, violent, and obsessed with himself

MyNameIsCharlie · December 10, 2016, 05:24:13 PM

Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 10, 2016, 04:47:31 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on December 10, 2016, 04:41:38 PM
also, of course he's a rapist, too

can't be well liked in america without that
Can't rape your wife, bro

Confirmed: PSU is Negan

Dapper Droid · December 10, 2016, 05:39:44 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on December 10, 2016, 04:41:38 PM

also, of course he's a rapist, too

can't be well liked in america without that

lmao what

The women choose to be his wives and have sex with him. They can leave anytime they want and go back to the point system, but they want free "gib me dats".

December 10, 2016, 05:45:30 PM

Quote from: Dapper Droid on December 10, 2016, 05:39:44 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on December 10, 2016, 04:41:38 PM
also, of course he's a rapist, too

can't be well liked in america without that

lmao what

The women choose to be his wives and have sex with him. They can leave anytime they want and go back to the point system, but they want free "gib me dats".

I don't care what bullshit justifications the comic spins for Negan's misogyny - in the show Dwight's wife was given the choice to marry Negan or have him die, pretty much. She's being forced into giving "consent", which is rape.

December 10, 2016, 05:50:04 PM

Side note though: Ezekiel is an amazing character. S7E2 was easily one of the best ones so far, KE's whole "life is life" speech was so good

Dapper Droid · December 10, 2016, 05:54:19 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on December 10, 2016, 05:45:30 PM

Quote from: Dapper Droid on December 10, 2016, 05:39:44 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on December 10, 2016, 04:41:38 PM
also, of course he's a rapist, too

can't be well liked in america without that

lmao what

The women choose to be his wives and have sex with him. They can leave anytime they want and go back to the point system, but they want free "gib me dats".
I don't care what bullshit justifications the comic spins for Negan's misogyny

>Misogyny is now literally rape

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in the show Dwight's wife was given the choice to marry Negan or have him die, pretty much. She's being forced into giving "consent", which is rape.

No, in the show, Negan wanted to marry Dwight's sister-in-law. They ran away and got the sister-in-law killed. Negan took Dwight's wife as compensation. She can LEAVE AT ANYTIME, and no harm will come to Dwight, as the debt was repaid. Instead, they fucked behind Negan's back and Negan melted Dwight's face with a hot iron.

There is nothing stopping Dwight's ex from leaving Negan, besides free hand-outs.

Dapper Droid · December 10, 2016, 05:55:26 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on December 10, 2016, 05:45:30 PM

Side note though: Ezekiel is an amazing character. S7E2 was easily one of the best ones so far, KE's whole "life is life" speech was so good

Spoiler

December 10, 2016, 05:57:13 PM

Quote from: Dapper Droid on December 10, 2016, 05:54:19 PM

No, in the show, Negan wanted to marry Dwight's sister-in-law. They ran away and got the sister-in-law killed. Negan took Dwight's wife as compensation. She can LEAVE AT ANYTIME, and no harm will come to Dwight, as the debt was repaid. Instead, they fucked behind Negan's back and Negan melted Dwight's face with a hot iron.

There is nothing stopping Dwight's ex from leaving Negan, besides free hand-outs.

Rewatch the episode, moron. Negan was about to kill Dwight before she stepped forward and offered to be Negan's wife.

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Genghis Khan · December 10, 2016, 06:09:42 PM

I actually kinda like Negan. If only he hadn't killed Glenn and Abraham he would be my favorite character by far.

Dapper Droid · December 10, 2016, 06:11:22 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on December 10, 2016, 05:57:13 PM

Quote from: Dapper Droid on December 10, 2016, 05:54:19 PM
No, in the show, Negan wanted to marry Dwight's sister-in-law. They ran away and got the sister-in-law killed. Negan took Dwight's wife as compensation. She can LEAVE AT ANYTIME, and no harm will come to Dwight, as the debt was repaid. Instead, they fucked behind Negan's back and Negan melted Dwight's face with a hot iron.

There is nothing stopping Dwight's ex from leaving Negan, besides free hand-outs.
Rewatch the episode, moron. Negan was about to kill Dwight before she stepped forward and offered to be Negan's wife.

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"But then Sherry says she will marry me if I let Dwight live"

Sounds like its consent. It was her idea. Negan isn't forcing her, and nor did he say "Fuck me or Dwight dies". How are you going to enjoy this show? You know Negan is a main character right? He's still friends with Rick in the newest issue that came out this month. He's gonna be on the show for at least four more seasons.

big dog · December 10, 2016, 06:17:08 PM

Quote from: Dapper Droid on December 10, 2016, 06:11:22 PM

He's still friends with Rick

I wouldn't go that far...

Dietrich Six · December 10, 2016, 06:17:38 PM

Quote from: Karjala takaisin on December 10, 2016, 06:09:42 PM

I actually kinda like Negan. If only he hadn't killed Glenn and Abraham he would be my favorite character by far.

I didn't care for Abraham, and Glenn's death is on Daryl.

December 10, 2016, 06:32:05 PM

Quote from: Dapper Droid on December 10, 2016, 06:11:22 PM

"But then Sherry says she will marry me if I let Dwight live"

Agreeing to this is rape. What Sherry said isn't consent, it's forced consent. Being someone's sex slave so your loved one isn't killed. The fact you think she made an uncoerced decision there is appaling.

And I don't care if a meh character like Negan sticks around to boost the ratings. He's an entertaining enough psycho to watch, and he doesn't bring down the show or anything, but all these basement kid fanboys he has who think he's some cool moral guy are annoying as hell.

December 10, 2016, 06:33:07 PM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on December 10, 2016, 06:17:38 PM

Glenn's death is on Daryl.

LMAO, literally no difference than "maybe you shouldn't have been rich in the bad part of town"

Glenn's death is 100% on the person who murdered him.

Dietrich Six · December 10, 2016, 06:40:51 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on December 10, 2016, 06:33:07 PM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on December 10, 2016, 06:17:38 PM
Glenn's death is on Daryl.
LMAO, literally no difference than "maybe you shouldn't have been rich in the bad part of town"

Glenn's death is 100% on the person who murdered him.

A mad man with a gun tells you not to do something or he will kill you, do you do it?