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Honestly, it's just as bad as being an actual girl and teasing thirsty guys online
No, it's definitely worse, because on top of teasing desperate guys, you're also lying.

Like, people go into sexual crises over this shit, you realize.


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Honestly, it's just as bad as being an actual girl and teasing thirsty guys online
No, it's definitely worse, because on top of teasing desperate guys, you're also lying.

Like, people go into sexual crises over this shit, you realize.
If someone's insecure enough over their sexuality to go into a crisis because someone said words to them on the Internet, that's more of a long-brewing personal problem.

Lying isn't some inherent evil.


 
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By the way, I've said this before, but the catfish in Catfish actually lives just up the street from me. When that movie came out, people started associating my city with it, so you could say the topic hits a little close to home for me.


 
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If someone's insecure enough over their sexuality to go into a crisis because someone said words to them on the Internet, that's more of a long-brewing personal problem.

Lying isn't some inherent evil.
Yeah, it is, and you're gonna go to your grave never knowing you have the most ass-fuck-backwards moral compass of all time.


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If someone's insecure enough over their sexuality to go into a crisis because someone said words to them on the Internet, that's more of a long-brewing personal problem.

Lying isn't some inherent evil.
Yeah, it is, and you're gonna go to your grave never knowing you have the most ass-fuck-backwards moral compass of all time.
Inherent means it's inseparable and born in it. You wouldn't call lying to a criminal who wants to know your wife's first name evil.

You bring up catfishing, but that's literally not this situation at all. Catfishing means you're lying and pretending to be someone you're not for some kind of personal gain. Usually money. Merely pretending to be the opposite sex on the Internet isn't the same as catfishing, and there's nothing wrong with it. And fucking with people's emotions by leading on thirsty guys is wrong whether you're lying or not.
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Inherent means it's inseparable and born in it. You wouldn't call lying to a criminal who wants to know your wife's first name evil.
I'd call that a necessary evil. Sometimes you have to engage in the dark arts to do good things. That's not really a fair example anyway. I'd argue it's the criminal who is essentially coercing you to lie. You're not lying because you think lying is good. You're lying because you don't have any meaningful choice in the matter. So that's not a fair example.

It should be a given that the only time it's ever okay to be "evil" is when you're using it to fight against a bigger evil.
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Fucking with people's emotions by leading on thirsty guys is wrong whether you're lying or not.
Yeah, but it's more wrong if you're lying, is the point. Things have nuance and value. Not everything is black and white.


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Trusting a word of anything anyone says on the Internet makes you the fool. I don't let myself get tricked like that because I'm not naive. Others should be the same.

It's their own fault for being so "thirsty" in the first place.

The act itself is wrong, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with presenting yourself the way you want to be presented on the Internet.


 
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Trusting a word of anything anyone says on the Internet makes you the fool.
The same logic could apply to everyone everywhere. Not just the Internet.

So you're basically saying not to trust anyone ever. That doesn't seem very mentally salubrious to me, but okay.
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The act itself is wrong, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with presenting yourself the way you want to be presented on the Internet.
And no one's contesting that. I'm contesting the act, which you've conceded to be wrong, so that second half is redundant.


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Trusting a word of anything anyone says on the Internet makes you the fool.
The same logic could apply to everyone everywhere. Not just the Internet.

So you're basically saying not to trust anyone ever. That doesn't seem very mentally salubrious to me, but okay.
But there's so much more anonymity and no accountability at all on the Internet. In real life, people are obligated to be honest, because being proven a liar is easier and more damaging to your reputation. On the Internet, anyone can lie and get away with it, and even if you get caught, it's literally a non-issue.

I just don't have the faith in people being honest in an environment like that. When I hear someone getting mad that they were lied to on the Internet, I just wonder if that person really expected to never be a victim of it.
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The act itself is wrong, but there's absolutely nothing wrong with presenting yourself the way you want to be presented on the Internet.
And no one's contesting that. I'm contesting the act, which you've conceded to be wrong, so that second half is redundant.
Fair enough, I guess.


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Honestly, it's just as bad as being an actual girl and teasing thirsty guys online
No, it's definitely worse, because on top of teasing desperate guys, you're also lying.

Like, people go into sexual crises over this shit, you realize.

But they know I'm a guy
I just act really cute so they probably have some cute femboi image in their mind


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Way to turn this thread into a fucking debate about quantum morals and shit


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Honestly, it's just as bad as being an actual girl and teasing thirsty guys online
No, it's definitely worse, because on top of teasing desperate guys, you're also lying.

Like, people go into sexual crises over this shit, you realize.

But they know I'm a guy
I just act really cute so they probably have some cute femboi image in their mind
Why even do this in the first place

it's so creepy and unnecessary


 
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But they know I'm a guy
I just act really cute so they probably have some cute femboi image in their mind
Oh. Well, that's perfectly fine, then. I thought you were talking about lying and purposely misleading people.
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Honestly, it's just as bad as being an actual girl and teasing thirsty guys online
No, it's definitely worse, because on top of teasing desperate guys, you're also lying.

Like, people go into sexual crises over this shit, you realize.

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fuck you
If you like doing it, sure