Is it bad that I agree with this racist apologist?

 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
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violence isnt the answer to any ideology


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
——Carmen
Also I'm not a centrist, the middle ground isn't always right

But I don't see advocating against violence of any kind against non-violent offenders to be the middle ground. It's just not as extreme as "kill everyone with a dangerous opinion"


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The only use for violence is to feel good, or getting what you want. Ultimately it's selfish, but it's taking action, whereas only having an ideology is selfish with no action. An ideology without action is complacency. It's not worth having if you truly care about things and other people. Ideologies without actions are just feel-good philosophies that you can follow because they're logical since they're not ever put to the test.
Last Edit: November 15, 2018, 06:07:26 AM by Desty


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Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
How is dude being an apologist? He was clearly saying that racism is bad.

Violence against ideas is authoritarian, even if those ideas themselves are authoritarian. You don't fight authoritarianism with more authoritarianism.


 
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Violence against ideas is authoritarian
could just be cathartic


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Long live NoNolesNeckin.

Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Violence against ideas is authoritarian
could just be cathartic
A lot of it is probably very cathartic for people, but it's still essentially telling someone that they don't have a right to express their opinion without the threat of physical harm.

A society where that is acceptable is not free.


 
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Violence against ideas is authoritarian
could just be cathartic
A lot of it is probably very cathartic for people, but it's still essentially telling someone that they don't have a right to express their opinion without the threat of physical harm.

A society where that is acceptable is not free.
freedom is overrated


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
—Judge Aaron Satie
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Violence against ideas is authoritarian
could just be cathartic
A lot of it is probably very cathartic for people, but it's still essentially telling someone that they don't have a right to express their opinion without the threat of physical harm.

A society where that is acceptable is not free.
freedom is overrated
Where do we draw the line? Saying "violence in response to a thought is wrong" is a practical, enforceable ideal. With "violence is okay in response to dangerous thoughts", you need a government to dictate what dangerous thoughts entail. What if they decided antinatalistic views are dangerous? What if they decided they can monitor your posts on the Internet, and because privacy is useless if you're not doing anything wrong, you have no way to defend yourself from that?

I respect a lot of your views, but sometimes you come off as very reactionary, and this is one of those cases. You need to think out the long term consequences of these kinds of social vendettas against the wrong people.


 
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tolerating intolerance leads to intolerance of tolerance


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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tolerating intolerance leads to intolerance of tolerance
It's not tolerating it. There are many ways to combat racism/sexism/bigotry, and the best one is social ostracization or being unable to find a job because no one wants to associate with you. Going and inciting violence against them isn't only immoral, it makes them look like the oppressed victims and makes them dig in their heels more.


 
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tolerating intolerance leads to intolerance of tolerance
It's not tolerating it. There are many ways to combat racism/sexism/bigotry, and the best one is social ostracization or being unable to find a job because no one wants to associate with you. Going and inciting violence against them isn't only immoral, it makes them look like the oppressed victims and makes them dig in their heels more.

i was just posting absentmindedly, not necessarily in response to you


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