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Is horse / dog racing, animal abuse?

Yes
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No
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Is horse / dog racing, animal abuse?

FatherlyNick - fuck putin | Mythic Inconceivable!
 
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The way I see it is, if an animal cannot consent to some activity they are involved in - its borderline abuse and most likely cruel.

Races - yeah, cruel.
Circus - abuse and cruel. Captivity and forced to do things through fear.
Zoo - hard to say. Animals just chill but they are in captivity. I'm not sure about this one.

What do you think?
Last Edit: February 20, 2020, 03:08:54 PM by FatherlyNick


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Long live NoNolesNeckin.

Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Are you a vegan?


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Out of all things you listed zoo is the most harmful one, because in zoo animals quite often die from cancer due to lack of exercise and changing environment.


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Long live NoNolesNeckin.

Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Are you a vegan?
Does it matter?
Well animals don't consent to being slaughtered for food so I'm asking you.


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If you know, you know.
Are you a vegan?
Does it matter?
Well animals don't consent to being slaughtered for food so I'm asking you.
I asked you first.
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But no, I'm not a vegan.


 
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the culture surrounding the breeding of racing animals is a little suspect, but racing itself isn't abuse unless an owner s trying to race an injured horse or doping it or something.


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Well my dog doesn't consent to me giving her baths but I still do it anyway


 
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yeah, of course


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Well my dog doesn't consent to me giving her baths but I still do it anyway

You are obviously caring for your pet its not even in the same ball-park as forcing an animal run for human entertainment and monetary gain.


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
The racing itself isn't the problem, it's that racing falls under the whole "pure standard breed" umbrella of fucked up things. When somebody decides to participate in dog racing (as a viewer or owner), by extension they're contributing to an abusive field.

Most racing dogs are specifically bred to *want* to run. Greyhounds, as a standout example. Greyhounds are also very sad, anxiety-ridden animals that shouldn't be bred anymore.
Last Edit: February 21, 2020, 09:28:33 AM by Aria


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The racing itself isn't the problem, it's that racing falls under the whole "pure standard breed" umbrella of fucked up things. When somebody decides to participate in dog racing (as a viewer or owner), by extension they're contributing to an abusive field.

Most racing dogs are specifically bred to *want* to run. Greyhounds, as a standout example. Greyhounds are also very sad, anxiety-ridden animals that shouldn't be bred anymore.

Still Seems like they are creating a problem. We got these races going on, but we need faster animals. So they go ahead and breed faster and faster dogs.
No races, no breeding. Also stop buying pugs FFS. They need to die off for their own sake.


 
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little by little, you are all starting to sound more like me

all according to plan


 
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little by little, you are all starting to sound more like me

all according to plan
I will never concede that Trent's Hurt is a better song.


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His eyebrows sparkling, his white beard hangs down to his chest. The thatched mats, spread outside his chise, spread softly, his splendid attos. He polishes, cross-legged, his makiri, with his eyes completely absorbed.

He is Ainu.

The god of Ainu Mosir, Ae-Oine Kamuy, descendant of Okiku-Rumi, He perishes, a living corpse. The summers day, the white sunlight, unabrushed, ends simply through his breath alone.
Also stop buying pugs FFS. They need to die off for their own sake.
Stop buying purebreds, period. Intentionally limiting genetic diversity for ~`《a e s t h e t i c》'~ is horribly stupid and horribly awful. It leads to so many health and quality of life issues that it should straight up be considered animal abuse.


 
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"With the first link, the chain is forged. The first speech censured, the first thought forbidden, the first freedom denied, chains us all irrevocably."
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Yes.


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To even train an animal to obey a command is on some level a form of abuse due to pack mentality. It's more evident in dogs due to their heritage from wolves. In this case, the alpha is simply a human being who has proven themselves to be the dog's master. You don't achieve that status without being harsh in some fashion. I think it counts as abuse when it's taken a step further for profit or entertainment. So, yes.


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The angel agreed to trade a set of white wings for the head of another demon. Overjoyed, the demon killed one of his own and plucked the head right off its still-warm body.

The angel then led the demon to heaven, where he underwent centuries of the cruelest tortures imaginable. Finally, the pain was so great that he lost consciousness - at which point his dark wings turned the promised shade of white.
To even train an animal to obey a command is on some level a form of abuse due to pack mentality. It's more evident in dogs due to their heritage from wolves. In this case, the alpha is simply a human being who has proven themselves to be the dog's master. You don't achieve that status without being harsh in some fashion. I think it counts as abuse when it's taken a step further for profit or entertainment. So, yes.
good, good
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To even train an animal to obey a command is on some level a form of abuse due to pack mentality. It's more evident in dogs due to their heritage from wolves. In this case, the alpha is simply a human being who has proven themselves to be the dog's master. You don't achieve that status without being harsh in some fashion. I think it counts as abuse when it's taken a step further for profit or entertainment. So, yes.
good, good
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Lovecraft then proceeded to name his cat Nigger Man
What an absolute mad lad


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Long live NoNolesNeckin.

Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Horses are more eco-friendly than cars because they don't emit fossil fuels.
If your vehicle is emitting the fuel then you need to see a mechanic.


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If you know, you know.
Horses are more eco-friendly than cars because they don't emit fossil fuels.
If your vehicle is emitting the fuel then you need to see a mechanic.
He needs to see the patent office.

Boy you are driving a gold mine!


 
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This is not the greatest sig in the world, no. This is just a tribute.
Horses are more eco-friendly than cars because they don't emit fossil fuels.
the horse becomes the fossil foil tho


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To even train an animal to obey a command is on some level a form of abuse due to pack mentality. It's more evident in dogs due to their heritage from wolves. In this case, the alpha is simply a human being who has proven themselves to be the dog's master. You don't achieve that status without being harsh in some fashion. I think it counts as abuse when it's taken a step further for profit or entertainment. So, yes.
good, good
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If I'm being frank here, lovecraft sounds like a pretentious prick in that quotation. If I'm wrong, it's too bad he's not around to explain why I've known plenty of dogs that'll pester you to play fetch on their own accord or just look at you like a stump on some days when they don't feel like playing anything. Unless the only viable explanation is that lovecraft only ever met dumb dogs in his life.


 
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If I'm being frank here, lovecraft sounds like a pretentious prick in that quotation. If I'm wrong, it's too bad he's not around to explain why I've known plenty of dogs that'll pester you to play fetch on their own accord or just look at you like a stump on some days when they don't feel like playing anything. Unless the only viable explanation is that lovecraft only ever met dumb dogs in his life.
i think it's funny (as someone who generally hate dogs, too)

but i mean, lovecraft also named his cat "Nigger Man," so there's that


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Maybe he just liked offending people and their sensabilities then. It'd go hand in hand with his ability to write cosmic horror.