is cheating on tests really that bad?

Naru · April 25, 2016, 05:12:23 PM

cause im doing it for tomorrow so i can excel at my dreams and pass calc. i mean, lets be honest, schools do say to use the resources around you to achieve, so.. i see no problem with doing so. im putting some formulas on my calculator and then sliding a small piece of paper in my lead pencil with a small definition and maybe some formulas cause we are made to remember a bunch of shit

snee0rp · April 25, 2016, 05:14:18 PM

If you need to cheat to pass something as easy as calculus, you're not going anywhere, regardless.

Naru · April 25, 2016, 05:17:29 PM

Quote from: Hargbeast on April 25, 2016, 05:14:18 PM

If you need to cheat to pass something as easy as calculus, you're not going anywhere, regardless.

people cheat all the time and succeed in life

Verbatim · April 25, 2016, 05:19:45 PM

You're basically admitting that you don't know the material and aren't fit for the work, so, yeah, I'd say it's pretty bad.

Naru · April 25, 2016, 05:21:43 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on April 25, 2016, 05:19:45 PM

You're basically admitting that you don't know the material and aren't fit for the work, so, yeah, I'd say it's pretty bad.

its not that, i just cant memorize what the teacher gives us. i mean, im fine with memorizing a few formulas granted i can easily see them, but then we learn the definitions of them so, like, fuck.

N/A · April 25, 2016, 05:24:00 PM

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Naru · April 25, 2016, 05:24:43 PM

Quote from: Zen on April 25, 2016, 05:24:00 PM

The only type of "cheating" I disagree with is self-plagiarizing. The fact you can fail an assignment by referencing your past work is stupid.

lmao, i remember someone who did that in high school. funny shit, but still fucking bullshit

PSU · April 25, 2016, 05:28:56 PM

No, it's not. I literally cheated my way through college.

Jester · April 25, 2016, 05:30:34 PM

Only if you get caught

Verbatim · April 25, 2016, 05:35:57 PM

Quote from: PSU on April 25, 2016, 05:28:56 PM

No, it's not. I literally cheated my way through college.

And it shows.

🂿 · April 25, 2016, 05:36:35 PM

Cheaters never win. Unless you're Cheat Lancer, then you always win.

PSU · April 25, 2016, 05:38:12 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on April 25, 2016, 05:35:57 PM

Quote from: PSU on April 25, 2016, 05:28:56 PM
No, it's not. I literally cheated my way through college.
And it shows.

It sure does with my degree and career.....

Fuck do I need to know calculus (or another other advanced math) for in my current job? Answer: I don't and never will.

Verbatim · April 25, 2016, 05:39:51 PM

Quote from: PSU on April 25, 2016, 05:38:12 PM

It sure does with my degree and career.....

Fuck do I need to know calculus (or another other advanced math) for in my current job? Answer: I don't and never will.

I wasn't talking about your job.

Jive Turkey · April 25, 2016, 05:51:59 PM

Calc is easy dawg. Calc II is a biiiitch

PSU · April 25, 2016, 05:52:42 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on April 25, 2016, 05:39:51 PM

Quote from: PSU on April 25, 2016, 05:38:12 PM
It sure does with my degree and career.....

Fuck do I need to know calculus (or another other advanced math) for in my current job? Answer: I don't and never will.
I wasn't talking about your job.

You're talking about what? Conversing with me on here? I'm using what, 5th grade English. Anyone over 11 is intelligent enough to post on here.

PSU · April 25, 2016, 05:53:56 PM

Quote from: Jive Turkey on April 25, 2016, 05:51:59 PM

Calc is easy dawg. Calc II is a biiiitch

Lol math is hard AF to me. Literally cheated my way through math since like Algebra 1 in 7th grade.

Jive Turkey · April 25, 2016, 05:57:15 PM

Quote from: PSU on April 25, 2016, 05:53:56 PM

Quote from: Jive Turkey on April 25, 2016, 05:51:59 PM
Calc is easy dawg. Calc II is a biiiitch

Lol math is hard AF to me. Literally cheated my way through math since like Algebra 1 in 7th grade.

I used to be pretty good at math, but later in high school I slacked hardcore. Ended up paying the T.A. so I'd pass the class, SMH it bit me in the ass my first semester of college though.

N/A · April 25, 2016, 05:57:24 PM

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SecondClass · April 25, 2016, 06:03:44 PM

Morally? Of course, you're getting an unfair advantage others don't have through bending the rules.

Practically? Not at all, if you're smart about it and don't get caught.

PSU · April 25, 2016, 06:04:05 PM

Quote from: Zen on April 25, 2016, 05:57:24 PM

Quote from: PSU on April 25, 2016, 05:53:56 PM
Quote from: Jive Turkey on April 25, 2016, 05:51:59 PM
Calc is easy dawg. Calc II is a biiiitch

Lol math is hard AF to me. Literally cheated my way through math since like Algebra 1 in 7th grade.
God, you sound as stupid as half of the inclusion classes I taught.

Math doesn't come easy to everyone bucco

Naru · April 25, 2016, 06:06:32 PM

Quote from: ALIE on April 25, 2016, 06:03:44 PM

Morally? Of course, you're getting an unfair advantage others don't have through bending the rules.

Practically? Not at all, if you're smart about it and don't get caught.

everyone else has the same capacity to cheat, just saying.

True Turquoise · April 25, 2016, 06:07:48 PM

youre not passing

N/A · April 25, 2016, 06:08:01 PM

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Naru · April 25, 2016, 06:09:54 PM

Quote from: Zen on April 25, 2016, 06:08:01 PM

Also, the center you're being tested at doesn't check your calculators? What a bunch of lazy fucks.

they do, but this is in class. tfw cant use my nspire in class ;-;

Coomer · April 25, 2016, 06:31:12 PM

Depends

Education system is bullshit so cheating on shit that doesn't matter isn't that bad
But most people cheat because they're lazy and don't care about anything

But you seem like a bright kid so you should be fine

Naru · April 25, 2016, 06:32:25 PM

Quote from: Dissonance on April 25, 2016, 06:31:12 PM

Depends

Education system is bullshit so cheating on shit that doesn't matter isn't that bad
But most people cheat because they're lazy and don't care about anything

But you seem like a bright kid so you should be fine

thanks fam, its just bullshit having to learn these things when i wont use most of it in my career

N/A · April 25, 2016, 06:33:53 PM

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Turkey · April 25, 2016, 06:45:26 PM

Quote from: AstroNaru on April 25, 2016, 06:06:32 PM

Quote from: ALIE on April 25, 2016, 06:03:44 PM
Morally? Of course, you're getting an unfair advantage others don't have through bending the rules.

Practically? Not at all, if you're smart about it and don't get caught.
everyone else has the same capacity to cheat, just saying.

In my engineering program we had a lot of arab students that basically had a huge cheating network set up where they would pass answers during tests, copy all their homework and assignments, and pass down information about how to get easy grades. They were basically getting degrees for half (or less) the effort, and would often just show up for exams and skip class altogether.

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Ian · April 25, 2016, 08:00:05 PM

The occasional test isn't really going to harm anybody morally speaking. But coming from a compulsive teacher, I'd recommend against making it into a habit.