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You guys know the Frankish Kingdom and how it eventually became France right? Well I know Charlameme was crowned the first King of the Franks, but the Holy Roman Empire also sees him as that. So my question is basically, did the Franks split off in two factions over time? One being obviously France, and the other being the HRE?

If so, they have to easily be one of the most influential Barbarian factions out of there. But yeah, I couldn't find an answer on google.


 
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I get it

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I'm trying to remember off the top of my head whether Pope Sylvester II and the Holy Roman Emperor Otto III came after Charlemagne.... uhh they did. Look my grasp of history isn't perfect, but I believe that France remained a member of the Roman church after Charlemagne departed.. uhhhhhm, the Pope I just mentioned was the first French Pope, who crowned the first Emperor since Charlemagne, the German Otto I also mentioned.


 
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I'm trying to remember off the top of my head whether Pope Sylvester II and the Holy Roman Emperor Otto III came after Charlemagne.... uhh they did. Look my grasp of history isn't perfect, but I believe that France remained a member of the Roman church after Charlemagne departed.. uhhhhhm, the Pope I just mentioned was the first French Pope, who crowned the first Emperor since Charlemagne, the German Otto I also mentioned.
Sooooo is that a... yes?


 
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I'm trying to remember off the top of my head whether Pope Sylvester II and the Holy Roman Emperor Otto III came after Charlemagne.... uhh they did. Look my grasp of history isn't perfect, but I believe that France remained a member of the Roman church after Charlemagne departed.. uhhhhhm, the Pope I just mentioned was the first French Pope, who crowned the first Emperor since Charlemagne, the German Otto I also mentioned.
Sooooo is that a... yes?
France remained part of the Roman church after Charlemagne, to my memory.


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After Charlemagne died in 814, the imperial crown was disputed among the Carolingian rulers of Western Francia and Eastern Francia, with first the western king (Charles the Bald) and then the eastern (Charles the Fat) attaining the prize.[citation needed] After the death of Charles the Fat in 888, however, the Carolingian Empire broke apart, and was never restored. According to Regino of Prüm, the parts of the realm "spewed forth kinglets", and each part elected a kinglet "from its own bowels".[41] After the death of Charles the Fat, those crowned emperor by the pope controlled only territories in Italy.[citation needed] The last such emperor was Berengar I of Italy, who died in 924.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire#Early_Middle_Ages

West and East Francia being approximately modern France and modern Germany, respectively.
Last Edit: May 15, 2016, 02:26:36 AM by Ushan


 
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Charles the Fat lol

Anyway, that more or less confirms it. Thank you. Franks were something to be reckoned with.

Edit: It hit me that a quick read on the HRE top part of Wiki would have answered my question, but I guess my brain didn't process that at 4 AM yesterday >.>
Last Edit: May 15, 2016, 02:40:10 AM by Luciana


 
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