Spoiler Infinity War reaction and theories

MyNameIsCharlie · April 28, 2018, 01:31:26 PM

My reaction is that I am stunned and a little jaded that Marvel/Disney had the guts to end Act I that way. I expected some cop out or plot device to set up the next movie.

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All they did is set up Captain Marvel. Besides that, almost everyone died besides the core original Avengers. Thanos wins and sits down to watch a sunset.

I am jaded because we know the line up for Phase 4, and whatever big event happens here, it has to be undone or those chapters can’t be written.

Best scenes?

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Thanos on Gamora’s homeworld was good. The battle between the Guardians and Thanos was great. It showed the stones as pretty powerful without going to the explode if you touch them plot device. Any of the Scarlet Witch scenes worked really well.

Worst scenes?

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All of the Thor and Guardians scenes. They felt forced in for comedy. I didn’t like Dinklage’s character. We get it, he’s a little person. Making him a 12 foot tall midget isn’t funny. The wakanda battle was a bit too Phantom Menace for my liking.

Theories:

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Coming soon

Genghis Khan · April 28, 2018, 01:38:54 PM

No theory is good without conspiracy.

Elai · April 28, 2018, 02:56:25 PM

I don't understand how the ending was "gutsy."

maverick · April 28, 2018, 03:23:26 PM

Thor was the best part of the movie.

Cheat · April 28, 2018, 03:59:15 PM

Adding in a spoiler tag cuz some noobs don't go to see it on opening weekend.

MyNameIsCharlie · April 28, 2018, 06:47:20 PM

Theory #1

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Dr Strange cast a spell that changes Thanos’s wish to trap everyone in the Soul stone instead of killing them. When discovered the remaining Avengers race to take Thanos out and release the beings in the Stone. That may have been why Thanos saw Gamora after the wish.

Septy · April 28, 2018, 08:03:29 PM

Movie was good but my theater audience was absolute cancer of clapping and shouting and whistling.
Character: *breathes*
*50 people start clapping and hollering*

It annoyed the shit out of me because I couldn’t even hear the movie at times. Girlfriend liked it too.

MyNameIsCharlie · April 28, 2018, 08:54:59 PM

Quote from: Eli on April 28, 2018, 02:56:25 PM

I don't understand how the ending was "gutsy."

It’s a Disney/Marvel movie. They have never ended a movie like this.

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While it’s undone by the very nature of the MCU with 9 sequels already announced, killing off 14 major characters and running credits with no repercussions on the villain? That’s not in Disney’s nature.

Elai · April 28, 2018, 09:10:16 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on April 28, 2018, 08:54:59 PM

Quote from: Eli on April 28, 2018, 02:56:25 PM
I don't understand how the ending was "gutsy."

It’s a Disney/Marvel movie. They have never ended a movie like this.

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While it’s undone by the very nature of the MCU with 9 sequels already announced, killing off 14 major characters and running credits with no repercussions on the villain? That’s not in Disney’s nature.

You're overstating things. It's not that big a deal.

MyNameIsCharlie · April 28, 2018, 10:46:43 PM

Quote from: Eli on April 28, 2018, 09:10:16 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on April 28, 2018, 08:54:59 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 28, 2018, 02:56:25 PM
I don't understand how the ending was "gutsy."

It’s a Disney/Marvel movie. They have never ended a movie like this.

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While it’s undone by the very nature of the MCU with 9 sequels already announced, killing off 14 major characters and running credits with no repercussions on the villain? That’s not in Disney’s nature.

You're overstating things. It's not that big a deal.

Name another movie that ended in such a way.

Elai · April 28, 2018, 10:53:43 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on April 28, 2018, 10:46:43 PM

Quote from: Eli on April 28, 2018, 09:10:16 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on April 28, 2018, 08:54:59 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 28, 2018, 02:56:25 PM
I don't understand how the ending was "gutsy."

It’s a Disney/Marvel movie. They have never ended a movie like this.

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While it’s undone by the very nature of the MCU with 9 sequels already announced, killing off 14 major characters and running credits with no repercussions on the villain? That’s not in Disney’s nature.

You're overstating things. It's not that big a deal.

Name another movie that ended in such a way.

I would argue Civil War ended on a darker note than this film. At least there was some lasting impact to the Avengers getting splintered that can be felt even in this film. All the tension from half the cast dying at the end of Infinity War is completely negated because 5 minutes before it happens, they establish that the infinity gauntlet can turn back time and bring people back to life. There's absolutely zero chance anyone who is dead stays dead, except for MAYBE Gamora.

It's a "dark" note to end on, sure, but not especially so, nor is it gutsy or ground breaking by any means. You're completely overselling its impact for god knows what reason. Praise the film for its real strengths, not undeserved nonsense.

MyNameIsCharlie · April 28, 2018, 11:44:26 PM

Quote from: Eli on April 28, 2018, 10:53:43 PM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on April 28, 2018, 10:46:43 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 28, 2018, 09:10:16 PM
Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on April 28, 2018, 08:54:59 PM
Quote from: Eli on April 28, 2018, 02:56:25 PM
I don't understand how the ending was "gutsy."

It’s a Disney/Marvel movie. They have never ended a movie like this.

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While it’s undone by the very nature of the MCU with 9 sequels already announced, killing off 14 major characters and running credits with no repercussions on the villain? That’s not in Disney’s nature.

You're overstating things. It's not that big a deal.

Name another movie that ended in such a way.

I would argue Civil War ended on a darker note than this film. At least there was some lasting impact to the Avengers getting splintered that can be felt even in this film. All the tension from half the cast dying at the end of Infinity War is completely negated because 5 minutes before it happens, they establish that the infinity gauntlet can turn back time and bring people back to life. There's absolutely zero chance anyone who is dead stays dead, except for MAYBE Gamora.

It's a "dark" note to end on, sure, but not especially so, nor is it gutsy or ground breaking by any means. You're completely overselling its impact for god knows what reason. Praise the film for its real strengths, not undeserved nonsense.

Reread the OP. I said exactly what you did. We all know they’re all getting revived. Most of them go on to star in Phase 4 movies that have already been announced.

But, to end the first act on such a note? Not many movies end on the bad guy wins after handing the heroes their ass. Certainly not a Disney movie. I expected them to pull an Empire Strikes Back and show the remaining heroes regrouping. Nope. Just the main bad guy sitting down to enjoy a job well done. No studio has done that. Aside from Watchmen, the bad guy never wins. Even there he is left guilt ridden. You have to see that nearly noone saw Disney having the guts to show restraint and not put in a regrouping moment or something else to ease Joe Popcorn’s feelings.

BaconShelf · April 29, 2018, 04:22:36 AM

Quote from: Septy on April 28, 2018, 08:03:29 PM

Movie was good but my theater audience was absolute cancer of clapping and shouting and whistling.
Character: *breathes*
*50 people start clapping and hollering*

It annoyed the shit out of me because I couldn’t even hear the movie at times. Girlfriend liked it too.

>american audiences

one guy in front of me turned round just before the climax of the film and shouted out the ending because a kid was kicking his chair though. I'd already seen it so it didn't bother me but I saw a bunch of people really pissed off.

Turkey · April 29, 2018, 07:00:47 AM

What's the over/under on that entire ending being reversed in the next movie?

Elai · April 29, 2018, 07:08:42 AM

Quote from: BaconShelf on April 29, 2018, 04:22:36 AM

Quote from: Septy on April 28, 2018, 08:03:29 PM
Movie was good but my theater audience was absolute cancer of clapping and shouting and whistling.
Character: *breathes*
*50 people start clapping and hollering*

It annoyed the shit out of me because I couldn’t even hear the movie at times. Girlfriend liked it too.
>american audiences

one guy in front of me turned round just before the climax of the film and shouted out the ending because a kid was kicking his chair though. I'd already seen it so it didn't bother me but I saw a bunch of people really pissed off.

What a douche bag. How did no one say anything

BaconShelf · April 29, 2018, 07:14:12 AM

Quote from: Eli on April 29, 2018, 07:08:42 AM

Quote from: BaconShelf on April 29, 2018, 04:22:36 AM
Quote from: Septy on April 28, 2018, 08:03:29 PM
Movie was good but my theater audience was absolute cancer of clapping and shouting and whistling.
Character: *breathes*
*50 people start clapping and hollering*

It annoyed the shit out of me because I couldn’t even hear the movie at times. Girlfriend liked it too.
>american audiences

one guy in front of me turned round just before the climax of the film and shouted out the ending because a kid was kicking his chair though. I'd already seen it so it didn't bother me but I saw a bunch of people really pissed off.

What a douche bag. How did no one say anything

I guess it's just more a british thing

I did see the kid's (who had been shouted at) parents having a go at the dude after the film though. The cinema in my town lowered ticket prices to a flat £4.99 for everyone + being a saturday evening on launch weekend just meant that it was a really full screening, compared to whenI usually go at like midday/ late morning on a weekday.

Mordo · April 29, 2018, 07:57:39 AM

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Does anyone else think Thor, Loki and Hulk fucked everything up in retrospect? I mean, if they hadn't killed Hela in Ragnarok and took the space stone off Asgard Thanos would have never accomplished anything. She would have literally turned that grapefruit inside out had he tried anything.

Turkey · April 29, 2018, 08:11:09 AM

Quote from: Mordo on April 29, 2018, 07:57:39 AM

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Does anyone else think Thor, Loki and Hulk fucked everything up in retrospect? I mean, if they hadn't killed Hela in Ragnarok and took the space stone off Asgard Thanos would have never accomplished anything. She would have literally turned that grapefruit inside out had he tried anything.

Why would she have been more successful than Thor?

Elai · April 29, 2018, 08:15:47 AM

Quote from: BaconShelf on April 29, 2018, 07:14:12 AM

Quote from: Eli on April 29, 2018, 07:08:42 AM
Quote from: BaconShelf on April 29, 2018, 04:22:36 AM
Quote from: Septy on April 28, 2018, 08:03:29 PM
Movie was good but my theater audience was absolute cancer of clapping and shouting and whistling.
Character: *breathes*
*50 people start clapping and hollering*

It annoyed the shit out of me because I couldn’t even hear the movie at times. Girlfriend liked it too.
>american audiences

one guy in front of me turned round just before the climax of the film and shouted out the ending because a kid was kicking his chair though. I'd already seen it so it didn't bother me but I saw a bunch of people really pissed off.

What a douche bag. How did no one say anything
I guess it's just more a british thing

I did see the kid's (who had been shouted at) parents having a go at the dude after the film though. The cinema in my town lowered ticket prices to a flat £4.99 for everyone + being a saturday evening on launch weekend just meant that it was a really full screening, compared to whenI usually go at like midday/ late morning on a weekday.

spoiling movies is a british thing?

Mordo · April 29, 2018, 08:17:14 AM

Quote from: Turkey on April 29, 2018, 08:11:09 AM

Quote from: Mordo on April 29, 2018, 07:57:39 AM
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Does anyone else think Thor, Loki and Hulk fucked everything up in retrospect? I mean, if they hadn't killed Hela in Ragnarok and took the space stone off Asgard Thanos would have never accomplished anything. She would have literally turned that grapefruit inside out had he tried anything.

Why would she have been more successful than Thor?

Thor threw everything he had at her including his unlocked abilities and it didn't do anything. Considering it's implied she's literally unstoppable as long as Asgard exists, and Thanos was depicted to be somewhat mortal in IW, I think it's pretty evident who the victor would be.

BaconShelf · April 29, 2018, 02:48:26 PM

Quote from: Eli on April 29, 2018, 08:15:47 AM

Quote from: BaconShelf on April 29, 2018, 07:14:12 AM
Quote from: Eli on April 29, 2018, 07:08:42 AM
Quote from: BaconShelf on April 29, 2018, 04:22:36 AM
Quote from: Septy on April 28, 2018, 08:03:29 PM
Movie was good but my theater audience was absolute cancer of clapping and shouting and whistling.
Character: *breathes*
*50 people start clapping and hollering*

It annoyed the shit out of me because I couldn’t even hear the movie at times. Girlfriend liked it too.
>american audiences

one guy in front of me turned round just before the climax of the film and shouted out the ending because a kid was kicking his chair though. I'd already seen it so it didn't bother me but I saw a bunch of people really pissed off.

What a douche bag. How did no one say anything
I guess it's just more a british thing

I did see the kid's (who had been shouted at) parents having a go at the dude after the film though. The cinema in my town lowered ticket prices to a flat £4.99 for everyone + being a saturday evening on launch weekend just meant that it was a really full screening, compared to whenI usually go at like midday/ late morning on a weekday.

spoiling movies is a british thing?

The "how did no one say anything" bit.

Jono · April 29, 2018, 11:05:55 PM

Some guy behind me brought his like 3-month old to the theater and started crying 5 minutes into the movie.

Why do people do this

Maxine · April 30, 2018, 03:42:49 PM

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theory: Dr Strange gave Thanos the time stone because it was a necessary part of the one eventuality in which the Avengers win.

Elai · April 30, 2018, 03:54:10 PM

Quote from: Maxine on April 30, 2018, 03:42:49 PM

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theory: Dr Strange gave Thanos the time stone because it was a necessary part of the one eventuality in which the Avengers win.

95% that'll be the case.

Korra · April 30, 2018, 03:55:48 PM

Infinity War? More like Infinity Bore.

Mega Sceptile · April 30, 2018, 05:26:04 PM

I was happy that my theater was actually quiet and civilized for once, maybe it was because it was a midnight screening, or maybe it was because all the people going in were massive fucking nerds, I don't know, but it was an enjoyable ride and the ending was a nice, abrupt and fitting ending for a universe ending power like the completed infinity gauntlet. I also liked that thanos for the entire film didnt use the full force of the stones. he used the gauntlet like he was only swatting away flies because he's only interested in his engame. painted an interesting picture for thanos' character and morals

Verbatim · May 01, 2018, 10:10:11 AM

Quote from: Eli on April 28, 2018, 02:56:25 PM

I don't understand how the ending was "gutsy."

you're pretty much alone on that

Verbatim · May 01, 2018, 10:13:42 AM

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that said, i do expect everything to get undone in the next movie, because it's pretty obviously going to happen

but what this movie did was establish a new precedent for shitty formulated superhero movies breaking expectations and, as a result, being a lot less formulated, which is an excellent precedent to set, and i hope to be surprised again

if not, i think i may just bow out of this entire franchise, because they set up something beautiful in this one and i really don't want them to squander it

my audience was relatively respectful, except for this one dude behind me who kept whisper-shouting "YESSS" every single time a familiar face debuted

Verbatim · May 01, 2018, 10:22:02 AM

can we not use spoiler tags in this thread actually

because if you haven't seen the movie you shouldn't be in this thread to start with

Mordo · May 01, 2018, 11:38:17 AM

Quote from: Shhhhhh on May 01, 2018, 10:10:11 AM

Quote from: Eli on April 28, 2018, 02:56:25 PM
I don't understand how the ending was "gutsy."
you're pretty much alone on that

Erm, not really.

Probably about 90% of the characters that died have confirmed sequels in the pipeline. The original Avengers remained untouched. You can pretty much see the Deus Ex Machina coming from a mile away.

So it's a legitimate opinion to have, and I too share it.