Spoiler Imperial Center: The Star Wars Megathread (Spoilers Permitted)

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For a "Megathread" this  is severely lacking in content.

Define lack of content. On my end, as in the OP is lacking? Or there aren't too many replies? Because the latter is to be expected, seeing as there are still a few ongoing SW threads other than this one. When those die down, this thread will see more activity.

Yes.


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Anyone else think that we won't visit Tatooine in TFA? Just because it looks very similar to Tatooine. Heck, everyone thought that the first teaser trailer showed Tatooine. Maybe it would confuse the audience having two desert planets. Jakku has wreckage and Tatooine has the twin suns...it would be nice to see Mos Eisley again. Imagine Han and Chewie still hanging out there and that's how they're introduced in the film.


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LOL, Star Wars #4 was awesome.


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LOL, Star Wars #4 was awesome.

Can they ever stop making Vader so fucking cool?


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LOL, Star Wars #4 was awesome.

Can they ever stop making Vader so fucking cool?

The coolness shall never subside. At this point I believe Samuel L. Jackson's wallet in Pulp Fiction was just a description of Darth Vader.


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Not sure why they made her so sexual on the cover, she doesn't act like that in the comic. Either way, Vader gonna tap dat ass. Or kill her. Who knows.


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Poor Anakin...


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Poor Anakin...
Don't refer to him by his bitch name.


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Vader gonna tap dat ass.

My gosh please no. No.



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Poor Anakin...
Don't refer to him by his bitch name.

Wouldn't Darth Vader technically be his bitch name though?


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Poor Anakin...
Don't refer to him by his bitch name.

Would Darth Vader technically be his bitch name though?
The Anakin we saw was a whiny, selfish, brooding, asshole. Yeah he was better in TCW but that's not enough tonerase the black mark of the Prequels.

Darth Vader, on the other hand, was a badass motherfucker.


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Poor Anakin...
Don't refer to him by his bitch name.

Would Darth Vader technically be his bitch name though?
The Anakin we saw was a whiny, selfish, brooding, asshole. Yeah he was better in TCW but that's not enough tonerase the black mark of the Prequels.

Darth Vader, on the other hand, was a badass motherfucker.

They're the same person. And Vader is just as whiny, selfish, and brooding. The difference being he can actually do something about it now (like killing people) instead of rubbing the Jedi Council's shaft.


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Poor Anakin...
Don't refer to him by his bitch name.

Would Darth Vader technically be his bitch name though?
The Anakin we saw was a whiny, selfish, brooding, asshole. Yeah he was better in TCW but that's not enough tonerase the black mark of the Prequels.

Darth Vader, on the other hand, was a badass motherfucker.

They're the same person. And Vader is just as whiny, selfish, and brooding. The difference being he can actually do something about it now (like killing people) instead of rubbing the Jedi Council's shaft.
the biggest difference between Prequels Anakin and Original Trilogy Anakin is that Vader is calculating, intelligent, shrewd, and good at reading people. Prequels Anakin is a gullible idiot who happens to be a savant when it comes to military stratagem. Prequels Anakin isn't the kind of guy who turns into Vader. You don't just magically grow a working brain by becoming a Sith.


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Poor Anakin...
Don't refer to him by his bitch name.

Would Darth Vader technically be his bitch name though?
The Anakin we saw was a whiny, selfish, brooding, asshole. Yeah he was better in TCW but that's not enough tonerase the black mark of the Prequels.

Darth Vader, on the other hand, was a badass motherfucker.

They're the same person. And Vader is just as whiny, selfish, and brooding. The difference being he can actually do something about it now (like killing people) instead of rubbing the Jedi Council's shaft.
the biggest difference between Prequels Anakin and Original Trilogy Anakin is that Vader is calculating, intelligent, shrewd, and good at reading people. Prequels Anakin is a gullible idiot who happens to be a savant when it comes to military stratagem. Prequels Anakin isn't the kind of guy who turns into Vader. You don't just magically grow a working brain by becoming a Sith.

Sounds like you need to pay attention to story then.


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Poor Anakin...
Don't refer to him by his bitch name.

Would Darth Vader technically be his bitch name though?
The Anakin we saw was a whiny, selfish, brooding, asshole. Yeah he was better in TCW but that's not enough tonerase the black mark of the Prequels.

Darth Vader, on the other hand, was a badass motherfucker.

They're the same person. And Vader is just as whiny, selfish, and brooding. The difference being he can actually do something about it now (like killing people) instead of rubbing the Jedi Council's shaft.
the biggest difference between Prequels Anakin and Original Trilogy Anakin is that Vader is calculating, intelligent, shrewd, and good at reading people. Prequels Anakin is a gullible idiot who happens to be a savant when it comes to military stratagem. Prequels Anakin isn't the kind of guy who turns into Vader. You don't just magically grow a working brain by becoming a Sith.

Sounds like you need to pay attention to story then.
got any specific examples or are you just spewing bullshit in the face of the truth?


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Poor Anakin...
Don't refer to him by his bitch name.

Would Darth Vader technically be his bitch name though?
The Anakin we saw was a whiny, selfish, brooding, asshole. Yeah he was better in TCW but that's not enough tonerase the black mark of the Prequels.

Darth Vader, on the other hand, was a badass motherfucker.

They're the same person. And Vader is just as whiny, selfish, and brooding. The difference being he can actually do something about it now (like killing people) instead of rubbing the Jedi Council's shaft.
the biggest difference between Prequels Anakin and Original Trilogy Anakin is that Vader is calculating, intelligent, shrewd, and good at reading people. Prequels Anakin is a gullible idiot who happens to be a savant when it comes to military stratagem. Prequels Anakin isn't the kind of guy who turns into Vader. You don't just magically grow a working brain by becoming a Sith.

Sounds like you need to pay attention to story then.
got any specific examples or are you just spewing bullshit in the face of the truth?

It all stems from the environment Anakin grew up in, Rewatch the prequels a Clone Wars and actually pay attention to details.


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Poor Anakin...
Don't refer to him by his bitch name.

Would Darth Vader technically be his bitch name though?
The Anakin we saw was a whiny, selfish, brooding, asshole. Yeah he was better in TCW but that's not enough tonerase the black mark of the Prequels.

Darth Vader, on the other hand, was a badass motherfucker.

They're the same person. And Vader is just as whiny, selfish, and brooding. The difference being he can actually do something about it now (like killing people) instead of rubbing the Jedi Council's shaft.
the biggest difference between Prequels Anakin and Original Trilogy Anakin is that Vader is calculating, intelligent, shrewd, and good at reading people. Prequels Anakin is a gullible idiot who happens to be a savant when it comes to military stratagem. Prequels Anakin isn't the kind of guy who turns into Vader. You don't just magically grow a working brain by becoming a Sith.

Sounds like you need to pay attention to story then.
got any specific examples or are you just spewing bullshit in the face of the truth?

It all stems from the environment Anakin grew up in, Rewatch the prequels a Clone Wars and actually pay attention to details.
that explains his moodiness, but not the sudden transformation from universe's dumbest jedi to authoritarian genius. nothing can explain that except for shitty writing.


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Poor Anakin...
Don't refer to him by his bitch name.

Would Darth Vader technically be his bitch name though?
The Anakin we saw was a whiny, selfish, brooding, asshole. Yeah he was better in TCW but that's not enough tonerase the black mark of the Prequels.

Darth Vader, on the other hand, was a badass motherfucker.

They're the same person. And Vader is just as whiny, selfish, and brooding. The difference being he can actually do something about it now (like killing people) instead of rubbing the Jedi Council's shaft.
the biggest difference between Prequels Anakin and Original Trilogy Anakin is that Vader is calculating, intelligent, shrewd, and good at reading people. Prequels Anakin is a gullible idiot who happens to be a savant when it comes to military stratagem. Prequels Anakin isn't the kind of guy who turns into Vader. You don't just magically grow a working brain by becoming a Sith.

Sounds like you need to pay attention to story then.
got any specific examples or are you just spewing bullshit in the face of the truth?

It all stems from the environment Anakin grew up in, Rewatch the prequels a Clone Wars and actually pay attention to details.
that explains his moodiness, but not the sudden transformation from universe's dumbest jedi to authoritarian genius. nothing can explain that except for shitty writing.

>Implying all Jedi aren't mentally retarded.

Again, rewatch and pay attention to the Jedi order.


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Poor Anakin...
Don't refer to him by his bitch name.

Would Darth Vader technically be his bitch name though?
The Anakin we saw was a whiny, selfish, brooding, asshole. Yeah he was better in TCW but that's not enough tonerase the black mark of the Prequels.

Darth Vader, on the other hand, was a badass motherfucker.

They're the same person. And Vader is just as whiny, selfish, and brooding. The difference being he can actually do something about it now (like killing people) instead of rubbing the Jedi Council's shaft.
the biggest difference between Prequels Anakin and Original Trilogy Anakin is that Vader is calculating, intelligent, shrewd, and good at reading people. Prequels Anakin is a gullible idiot who happens to be a savant when it comes to military stratagem. Prequels Anakin isn't the kind of guy who turns into Vader. You don't just magically grow a working brain by becoming a Sith.

Sounds like you need to pay attention to story then.
got any specific examples or are you just spewing bullshit in the face of the truth?

It all stems from the environment Anakin grew up in, Rewatch the prequels a Clone Wars and actually pay attention to details.
that explains his moodiness, but not the sudden transformation from universe's dumbest jedi to authoritarian genius. nothing can explain that except for shitty writing.

>Implying all Jedi aren't mentally retarded.

Again, rewatch and pay attention to the Jedi order.
yeah, theyre all dumb as rocks. so tell me, how in the flying fuck did anakin magically become smart? i can tell you right now that palpatine isnt responsible.

its a shitty narrative. lucas didnt think it through. stop white knighting the prequels.


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Poor Anakin...
Don't refer to him by his bitch name.

Would Darth Vader technically be his bitch name though?
The Anakin we saw was a whiny, selfish, brooding, asshole. Yeah he was better in TCW but that's not enough tonerase the black mark of the Prequels.

Darth Vader, on the other hand, was a badass motherfucker.

They're the same person. And Vader is just as whiny, selfish, and brooding. The difference being he can actually do something about it now (like killing people) instead of rubbing the Jedi Council's shaft.
the biggest difference between Prequels Anakin and Original Trilogy Anakin is that Vader is calculating, intelligent, shrewd, and good at reading people. Prequels Anakin is a gullible idiot who happens to be a savant when it comes to military stratagem. Prequels Anakin isn't the kind of guy who turns into Vader. You don't just magically grow a working brain by becoming a Sith.

Sounds like you need to pay attention to story then.
got any specific examples or are you just spewing bullshit in the face of the truth?

It all stems from the environment Anakin grew up in, Rewatch the prequels a Clone Wars and actually pay attention to details.
that explains his moodiness, but not the sudden transformation from universe's dumbest jedi to authoritarian genius. nothing can explain that except for shitty writing.

>Implying all Jedi aren't mentally retarded.

Again, rewatch and pay attention to the Jedi order.
yeah, theyre all dumb as rocks. so tell me, how in the flying fuck did anakin magically become smart? i can tell you right now that palpatine isnt responsible.

its a shitty narrative. lucas didnt think it through. stop white knighting the prequels.

When did Anakin become smart? Vader is just as dumb in the movies, and we've barely seen any of his thought process in the new comics besides "lol lets build an army". So unless you're using non canon material to show Vader's intelligence, I don't see it.

Anakin is Palpatine's lapdog, and is ignorant beyond belief, even after he's in the suit. The ONLY time he opens up a bit is when he finds out Luke is his son. And even then, he has to wait until his son is almost killed to actually do something.

He became a sign of terror when he went in the suit, but he didn't become smart.

And I'm not white knighting the prequels, I'm defending the Star Wars narrative as a whole. Sorry that you don't enjoy a section of it to actually care about it.
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Poor Anakin...
Don't refer to him by his bitch name.

Would Darth Vader technically be his bitch name though?
The Anakin we saw was a whiny, selfish, brooding, asshole. Yeah he was better in TCW but that's not enough tonerase the black mark of the Prequels.

Darth Vader, on the other hand, was a badass motherfucker.

They're the same person. And Vader is just as whiny, selfish, and brooding. The difference being he can actually do something about it now (like killing people) instead of rubbing the Jedi Council's shaft.
the biggest difference between Prequels Anakin and Original Trilogy Anakin is that Vader is calculating, intelligent, shrewd, and good at reading people. Prequels Anakin is a gullible idiot who happens to be a savant when it comes to military stratagem. Prequels Anakin isn't the kind of guy who turns into Vader. You don't just magically grow a working brain by becoming a Sith.

Sounds like you need to pay attention to story then.
got any specific examples or are you just spewing bullshit in the face of the truth?

It all stems from the environment Anakin grew up in, Rewatch the prequels a Clone Wars and actually pay attention to details.
that explains his moodiness, but not the sudden transformation from universe's dumbest jedi to authoritarian genius. nothing can explain that except for shitty writing.

>Implying all Jedi aren't mentally retarded.

Again, rewatch and pay attention to the Jedi order.
yeah, theyre all dumb as rocks. so tell me, how in the flying fuck did anakin magically become smart? i can tell you right now that palpatine isnt responsible.

its a shitty narrative. lucas didnt think it through. stop white knighting the prequels.

When did Anakin become smart? Vader is just as dumb in the movies, and we've barely seen any of his thought process in the new comics besides "lol lets build an army". So unless you're using non canon material to show Vader's intelligence, I don't see it.

Anakin is Palpatine's lapdog, and is ignorant beyond belief, even after he's in the suit. The ONLY time he opens up a bit is when he finds out Luke is his son. And even then, he has to wait until his son is almost killed to actually do something.

He became a sign of terror when he went in the suit, but he didn't become smart.

And I'm not white knighting the prequels, I'm defending the Star Wars narrative as a whole. Sorry that you don't enjoy a section of it to actually care about it.

Vader isn't an idiot. You say that he isn't smart in canon material, but I'd say his actions in the Darth Vader comics have shown him to be quite cunning and intelligent.


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Poor Anakin...
Don't refer to him by his bitch name.

Would Darth Vader technically be his bitch name though?
The Anakin we saw was a whiny, selfish, brooding, asshole. Yeah he was better in TCW but that's not enough tonerase the black mark of the Prequels.

Darth Vader, on the other hand, was a badass motherfucker.

They're the same person. And Vader is just as whiny, selfish, and brooding. The difference being he can actually do something about it now (like killing people) instead of rubbing the Jedi Council's shaft.
the biggest difference between Prequels Anakin and Original Trilogy Anakin is that Vader is calculating, intelligent, shrewd, and good at reading people. Prequels Anakin is a gullible idiot who happens to be a savant when it comes to military stratagem. Prequels Anakin isn't the kind of guy who turns into Vader. You don't just magically grow a working brain by becoming a Sith.

Sounds like you need to pay attention to story then.
got any specific examples or are you just spewing bullshit in the face of the truth?

It all stems from the environment Anakin grew up in, Rewatch the prequels a Clone Wars and actually pay attention to details.
that explains his moodiness, but not the sudden transformation from universe's dumbest jedi to authoritarian genius. nothing can explain that except for shitty writing.

>Implying all Jedi aren't mentally retarded.

Again, rewatch and pay attention to the Jedi order.
yeah, theyre all dumb as rocks. so tell me, how in the flying fuck did anakin magically become smart? i can tell you right now that palpatine isnt responsible.

its a shitty narrative. lucas didnt think it through. stop white knighting the prequels.

When did Anakin become smart? Vader is just as dumb in the movies, and we've barely seen any of his thought process in the new comics besides "lol lets build an army". So unless you're using non canon material to show Vader's intelligence, I don't see it.

Anakin is Palpatine's lapdog, and is ignorant beyond belief, even after he's in the suit. The ONLY time he opens up a bit is when he finds out Luke is his son. And even then, he has to wait until his son is almost killed to actually do something.

He became a sign of terror when he went in the suit, but he didn't become smart.

And I'm not white knighting the prequels, I'm defending the Star Wars narrative as a whole. Sorry that you don't enjoy a section of it to actually care about it.

Vader isn't an idiot. You say that he isn't smart in canon material, but I'd say his actions in the Darth Vader comics have shown him to be quite cunning and intelligent.
the Cloud City ambush comes to mind as well.


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Poor Anakin...
Don't refer to him by his bitch name.

Would Darth Vader technically be his bitch name though?
The Anakin we saw was a whiny, selfish, brooding, asshole. Yeah he was better in TCW but that's not enough tonerase the black mark of the Prequels.

Darth Vader, on the other hand, was a badass motherfucker.

They're the same person. And Vader is just as whiny, selfish, and brooding. The difference being he can actually do something about it now (like killing people) instead of rubbing the Jedi Council's shaft.
the biggest difference between Prequels Anakin and Original Trilogy Anakin is that Vader is calculating, intelligent, shrewd, and good at reading people. Prequels Anakin is a gullible idiot who happens to be a savant when it comes to military stratagem. Prequels Anakin isn't the kind of guy who turns into Vader. You don't just magically grow a working brain by becoming a Sith.

Sounds like you need to pay attention to story then.
got any specific examples or are you just spewing bullshit in the face of the truth?

It all stems from the environment Anakin grew up in, Rewatch the prequels a Clone Wars and actually pay attention to details.
that explains his moodiness, but not the sudden transformation from universe's dumbest jedi to authoritarian genius. nothing can explain that except for shitty writing.

>Implying all Jedi aren't mentally retarded.

Again, rewatch and pay attention to the Jedi order.
yeah, theyre all dumb as rocks. so tell me, how in the flying fuck did anakin magically become smart? i can tell you right now that palpatine isnt responsible.

its a shitty narrative. lucas didnt think it through. stop white knighting the prequels.

When did Anakin become smart? Vader is just as dumb in the movies, and we've barely seen any of his thought process in the new comics besides "lol lets build an army". So unless you're using non canon material to show Vader's intelligence, I don't see it.

Anakin is Palpatine's lapdog, and is ignorant beyond belief, even after he's in the suit. The ONLY time he opens up a bit is when he finds out Luke is his son. And even then, he has to wait until his son is almost killed to actually do something.

He became a sign of terror when he went in the suit, but he didn't become smart.

And I'm not white knighting the prequels, I'm defending the Star Wars narrative as a whole. Sorry that you don't enjoy a section of it to actually care about it.

Vader isn't an idiot. You say that he isn't smart in canon material, but I'd say his actions in the Darth Vader comics have shown him to be quite cunning and intelligent.

Then I can say the same for how he behaves during The Clone Wars. His intelligence level does not change.


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Poor Anakin...
Don't refer to him by his bitch name.

Would Darth Vader technically be his bitch name though?
The Anakin we saw was a whiny, selfish, brooding, asshole. Yeah he was better in TCW but that's not enough tonerase the black mark of the Prequels.

Darth Vader, on the other hand, was a badass motherfucker.

They're the same person. And Vader is just as whiny, selfish, and brooding. The difference being he can actually do something about it now (like killing people) instead of rubbing the Jedi Council's shaft.
the biggest difference between Prequels Anakin and Original Trilogy Anakin is that Vader is calculating, intelligent, shrewd, and good at reading people. Prequels Anakin is a gullible idiot who happens to be a savant when it comes to military stratagem. Prequels Anakin isn't the kind of guy who turns into Vader. You don't just magically grow a working brain by becoming a Sith.

Sounds like you need to pay attention to story then.
got any specific examples or are you just spewing bullshit in the face of the truth?

It all stems from the environment Anakin grew up in, Rewatch the prequels a Clone Wars and actually pay attention to details.
that explains his moodiness, but not the sudden transformation from universe's dumbest jedi to authoritarian genius. nothing can explain that except for shitty writing.

>Implying all Jedi aren't mentally retarded.

Again, rewatch and pay attention to the Jedi order.
yeah, theyre all dumb as rocks. so tell me, how in the flying fuck did anakin magically become smart? i can tell you right now that palpatine isnt responsible.

its a shitty narrative. lucas didnt think it through. stop white knighting the prequels.

When did Anakin become smart? Vader is just as dumb in the movies, and we've barely seen any of his thought process in the new comics besides "lol lets build an army". So unless you're using non canon material to show Vader's intelligence, I don't see it.

Anakin is Palpatine's lapdog, and is ignorant beyond belief, even after he's in the suit. The ONLY time he opens up a bit is when he finds out Luke is his son. And even then, he has to wait until his son is almost killed to actually do something.

He became a sign of terror when he went in the suit, but he didn't become smart.

And I'm not white knighting the prequels, I'm defending the Star Wars narrative as a whole. Sorry that you don't enjoy a section of it to actually care about it.

Vader isn't an idiot. You say that he isn't smart in canon material, but I'd say his actions in the Darth Vader comics have shown him to be quite cunning and intelligent.

Then I can say the same for how he behaves during The Clone Wars. His intelligence level does not change.
yeah but Lucas isn't responsible for anakin's character development in that series. id prefer to keep this within the realm of things that Lucas is directly responsible for- the 6 movies. there is no narrative consistency between the prequel anakin and vader in the movies. the clone wars helps to remedy the character a bit, but movie anakin is a fucking moron, no way around it. vader is much much more intelligent. that doesnt make any sense. lucas is a hack.


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Poor Anakin...
Don't refer to him by his bitch name.

Would Darth Vader technically be his bitch name though?
The Anakin we saw was a whiny, selfish, brooding, asshole. Yeah he was better in TCW but that's not enough tonerase the black mark of the Prequels.

Darth Vader, on the other hand, was a badass motherfucker.

They're the same person. And Vader is just as whiny, selfish, and brooding. The difference being he can actually do something about it now (like killing people) instead of rubbing the Jedi Council's shaft.
the biggest difference between Prequels Anakin and Original Trilogy Anakin is that Vader is calculating, intelligent, shrewd, and good at reading people. Prequels Anakin is a gullible idiot who happens to be a savant when it comes to military stratagem. Prequels Anakin isn't the kind of guy who turns into Vader. You don't just magically grow a working brain by becoming a Sith.

Sounds like you need to pay attention to story then.
got any specific examples or are you just spewing bullshit in the face of the truth?

It all stems from the environment Anakin grew up in, Rewatch the prequels a Clone Wars and actually pay attention to details.
that explains his moodiness, but not the sudden transformation from universe's dumbest jedi to authoritarian genius. nothing can explain that except for shitty writing.

>Implying all Jedi aren't mentally retarded.

Again, rewatch and pay attention to the Jedi order.
yeah, theyre all dumb as rocks. so tell me, how in the flying fuck did anakin magically become smart? i can tell you right now that palpatine isnt responsible.

its a shitty narrative. lucas didnt think it through. stop white knighting the prequels.

When did Anakin become smart? Vader is just as dumb in the movies, and we've barely seen any of his thought process in the new comics besides "lol lets build an army". So unless you're using non canon material to show Vader's intelligence, I don't see it.

Anakin is Palpatine's lapdog, and is ignorant beyond belief, even after he's in the suit. The ONLY time he opens up a bit is when he finds out Luke is his son. And even then, he has to wait until his son is almost killed to actually do something.

He became a sign of terror when he went in the suit, but he didn't become smart.

And I'm not white knighting the prequels, I'm defending the Star Wars narrative as a whole. Sorry that you don't enjoy a section of it to actually care about it.

Vader isn't an idiot. You say that he isn't smart in canon material, but I'd say his actions in the Darth Vader comics have shown him to be quite cunning and intelligent.

Then I can say the same for how he behaves during The Clone Wars. His intelligence level does not change.
yeah but Lucas isn't responsible for anakin's character development in that series. id prefer to keep this within the realm of things that Lucas is directly responsible for- the 6 movies. there is no narrative consistency between the prequel anakin and vader in the movies. the clone wars helps to remedy the character a bit, but movie anakin is a fucking moron, no way around it. vader is much much more intelligent. that doesnt make any sense. lucas is a hack.

Okay, are you stupid or misinformed? Lucas was DIRECTLY involved with the story and character development of EVERY Clone Wars episode that has aired thus far. The Clone Wars is just as much directly responsible for him as the main 6 movies. Hence why it was left canon during the EU wipe.


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Poor Anakin...
Don't refer to him by his bitch name.

Would Darth Vader technically be his bitch name though?
The Anakin we saw was a whiny, selfish, brooding, asshole. Yeah he was better in TCW but that's not enough tonerase the black mark of the Prequels.

Darth Vader, on the other hand, was a badass motherfucker.

They're the same person. And Vader is just as whiny, selfish, and brooding. The difference being he can actually do something about it now (like killing people) instead of rubbing the Jedi Council's shaft.
the biggest difference between Prequels Anakin and Original Trilogy Anakin is that Vader is calculating, intelligent, shrewd, and good at reading people. Prequels Anakin is a gullible idiot who happens to be a savant when it comes to military stratagem. Prequels Anakin isn't the kind of guy who turns into Vader. You don't just magically grow a working brain by becoming a Sith.

Sounds like you need to pay attention to story then.
got any specific examples or are you just spewing bullshit in the face of the truth?

It all stems from the environment Anakin grew up in, Rewatch the prequels a Clone Wars and actually pay attention to details.
that explains his moodiness, but not the sudden transformation from universe's dumbest jedi to authoritarian genius. nothing can explain that except for shitty writing.

>Implying all Jedi aren't mentally retarded.

Again, rewatch and pay attention to the Jedi order.
yeah, theyre all dumb as rocks. so tell me, how in the flying fuck did anakin magically become smart? i can tell you right now that palpatine isnt responsible.

its a shitty narrative. lucas didnt think it through. stop white knighting the prequels.

When did Anakin become smart? Vader is just as dumb in the movies, and we've barely seen any of his thought process in the new comics besides "lol lets build an army". So unless you're using non canon material to show Vader's intelligence, I don't see it.

Anakin is Palpatine's lapdog, and is ignorant beyond belief, even after he's in the suit. The ONLY time he opens up a bit is when he finds out Luke is his son. And even then, he has to wait until his son is almost killed to actually do something.

He became a sign of terror when he went in the suit, but he didn't become smart.

And I'm not white knighting the prequels, I'm defending the Star Wars narrative as a whole. Sorry that you don't enjoy a section of it to actually care about it.

Vader isn't an idiot. You say that he isn't smart in canon material, but I'd say his actions in the Darth Vader comics have shown him to be quite cunning and intelligent.

Then I can say the same for how he behaves during The Clone Wars. His intelligence level does not change.
yeah but Lucas isn't responsible for anakin's character development in that series. id prefer to keep this within the realm of things that Lucas is directly responsible for- the 6 movies. there is no narrative consistency between the prequel anakin and vader in the movies. the clone wars helps to remedy the character a bit, but movie anakin is a fucking moron, no way around it. vader is much much more intelligent. that doesnt make any sense. lucas is a hack.

Okay, are you stupid or misinformed? Lucas was DIRECTLY involved with the story and character development of EVERY Clone Wars episode that has aired thus far. The Clone Wars is just as much directly responsible for him as the main 6 movies. Hence why it was left canon during the EU wipe.
lucas has creator credits for the clone wars because he invented star wars. he has a minor writing credit, but he wasnt involved in production or direction. doesnt count.
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Poor Anakin...
Don't refer to him by his bitch name.

Would Darth Vader technically be his bitch name though?
The Anakin we saw was a whiny, selfish, brooding, asshole. Yeah he was better in TCW but that's not enough tonerase the black mark of the Prequels.

Darth Vader, on the other hand, was a badass motherfucker.

They're the same person. And Vader is just as whiny, selfish, and brooding. The difference being he can actually do something about it now (like killing people) instead of rubbing the Jedi Council's shaft.
the biggest difference between Prequels Anakin and Original Trilogy Anakin is that Vader is calculating, intelligent, shrewd, and good at reading people. Prequels Anakin is a gullible idiot who happens to be a savant when it comes to military stratagem. Prequels Anakin isn't the kind of guy who turns into Vader. You don't just magically grow a working brain by becoming a Sith.

Sounds like you need to pay attention to story then.
got any specific examples or are you just spewing bullshit in the face of the truth?

It all stems from the environment Anakin grew up in, Rewatch the prequels a Clone Wars and actually pay attention to details.
that explains his moodiness, but not the sudden transformation from universe's dumbest jedi to authoritarian genius. nothing can explain that except for shitty writing.

>Implying all Jedi aren't mentally retarded.

Again, rewatch and pay attention to the Jedi order.
yeah, theyre all dumb as rocks. so tell me, how in the flying fuck did anakin magically become smart? i can tell you right now that palpatine isnt responsible.

its a shitty narrative. lucas didnt think it through. stop white knighting the prequels.

When did Anakin become smart? Vader is just as dumb in the movies, and we've barely seen any of his thought process in the new comics besides "lol lets build an army". So unless you're using non canon material to show Vader's intelligence, I don't see it.

Anakin is Palpatine's lapdog, and is ignorant beyond belief, even after he's in the suit. The ONLY time he opens up a bit is when he finds out Luke is his son. And even then, he has to wait until his son is almost killed to actually do something.

He became a sign of terror when he went in the suit, but he didn't become smart.

And I'm not white knighting the prequels, I'm defending the Star Wars narrative as a whole. Sorry that you don't enjoy a section of it to actually care about it.

Vader isn't an idiot. You say that he isn't smart in canon material, but I'd say his actions in the Darth Vader comics have shown him to be quite cunning and intelligent.

Then I can say the same for how he behaves during The Clone Wars. His intelligence level does not change.
yeah but Lucas isn't responsible for anakin's character development in that series. id prefer to keep this within the realm of things that Lucas is directly responsible for- the 6 movies. there is no narrative consistency between the prequel anakin and vader in the movies. the clone wars helps to remedy the character a bit, but movie anakin is a fucking moron, no way around it. vader is much much more intelligent. that doesnt make any sense. lucas is a hack.

Okay, are you stupid or misinformed? Lucas was DIRECTLY involved with the story and character development of EVERY Clone Wars episode that has aired thus far. The Clone Wars is just as much directly responsible for him as the main 6 movies. Hence why it was left canon during the EU wipe.
lucas has creator credits for the clone wars because he invented star wars. he has a minor writing credit, but he wasnt involved in production or direction. doesnt count.

Jesus Christ, okay I'm done talking with you. You obviously have no idea how Lucas worked on The Clone Wars, making this discussion a mute point. Do yourself a favor, and actually see all the work, time, and effort Lucas has put into making the show. Yes, others worked on the show, but Lucas had the penultimate authority over what was written and created during the show's run time, despite what the credits show. Just look at any interview or behind the scene documentary of the show's producer, Dave Filoni.

And even if Lucas had no role in The Clone Wars, what does it matter? It's still canon. It's on the same level as the movies, despite your personal opinion on the matter.


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Poor Anakin...
Don't refer to him by his bitch name.

Would Darth Vader technically be his bitch name though?
The Anakin we saw was a whiny, selfish, brooding, asshole. Yeah he was better in TCW but that's not enough tonerase the black mark of the Prequels.

Darth Vader, on the other hand, was a badass motherfucker.

They're the same person. And Vader is just as whiny, selfish, and brooding. The difference being he can actually do something about it now (like killing people) instead of rubbing the Jedi Council's shaft.
the biggest difference between Prequels Anakin and Original Trilogy Anakin is that Vader is calculating, intelligent, shrewd, and good at reading people. Prequels Anakin is a gullible idiot who happens to be a savant when it comes to military stratagem. Prequels Anakin isn't the kind of guy who turns into Vader. You don't just magically grow a working brain by becoming a Sith.

Sounds like you need to pay attention to story then.
got any specific examples or are you just spewing bullshit in the face of the truth?

It all stems from the environment Anakin grew up in, Rewatch the prequels a Clone Wars and actually pay attention to details.
that explains his moodiness, but not the sudden transformation from universe's dumbest jedi to authoritarian genius. nothing can explain that except for shitty writing.

>Implying all Jedi aren't mentally retarded.

Again, rewatch and pay attention to the Jedi order.
yeah, theyre all dumb as rocks. so tell me, how in the flying fuck did anakin magically become smart? i can tell you right now that palpatine isnt responsible.

its a shitty narrative. lucas didnt think it through. stop white knighting the prequels.

When did Anakin become smart? Vader is just as dumb in the movies, and we've barely seen any of his thought process in the new comics besides "lol lets build an army". So unless you're using non canon material to show Vader's intelligence, I don't see it.

Anakin is Palpatine's lapdog, and is ignorant beyond belief, even after he's in the suit. The ONLY time he opens up a bit is when he finds out Luke is his son. And even then, he has to wait until his son is almost killed to actually do something.

He became a sign of terror when he went in the suit, but he didn't become smart.

And I'm not white knighting the prequels, I'm defending the Star Wars narrative as a whole. Sorry that you don't enjoy a section of it to actually care about it.

Vader isn't an idiot. You say that he isn't smart in canon material, but I'd say his actions in the Darth Vader comics have shown him to be quite cunning and intelligent.

Then I can say the same for how he behaves during The Clone Wars. His intelligence level does not change.
yeah but Lucas isn't responsible for anakin's character development in that series. id prefer to keep this within the realm of things that Lucas is directly responsible for- the 6 movies. there is no narrative consistency between the prequel anakin and vader in the movies. the clone wars helps to remedy the character a bit, but movie anakin is a fucking moron, no way around it. vader is much much more intelligent. that doesnt make any sense. lucas is a hack.

Okay, are you stupid or misinformed? Lucas was DIRECTLY involved with the story and character development of EVERY Clone Wars episode that has aired thus far. The Clone Wars is just as much directly responsible for him as the main 6 movies. Hence why it was left canon during the EU wipe.
lucas has creator credits for the clone wars because he invented star wars. he has a minor writing credit, but he wasnt involved in production or direction. doesnt count.

Jesus Christ, okay I'm done talking with you. You obviously have no idea how Lucas worked on The Clone Wars, making this discussion a mute point. Do yourself a favor, and actually see all the work, time, and effort Lucas has put into making the show. Yes, others worked on the show, but Lucas had the penultimate authority over what was written and created during the show's run time, despite what the credits show. Just look at any interview or behind the scene documentary of the show's producer, Dave Filoni.

And even if Lucas had no role in The Clone Wars, what does it matter? It's still canon. It's on the same level as the movies, despite your personal opinion on the matter.
so what you're saying is you have run out of bullshit to defend the prequels with?

i rest my case.