Right, but film quality is dependent on the optics used and the film-grain. Many films shot before the digital revolution are very high resolution, typically higher than digital. You just wouldn't have been able to tell by watching a VHS copy because it wouldn't have to been able to fit on a cassette with cheap magnetic tape. It's like if you bought a game that had four discs, but you had the option to play a lower fidelity version on one disc.

i see

so what you're doing is really no different than what's basically already being done with other films, only with pre-SE star wars

If you're saying what I think you're saying, yes?

I wouldn't splice Thomas the Tank Engine into a movie (besides Fight Club), and I wouldn't just throw him into a game either. I like everything to look uniform; if it doesn't look like it belongs in the game, it doesn't.

i'm saying i don't find your outlook completely objectionable, because it's something i see happening in the near future anyway--there's such a huge demand for an unaltered SW re-release, so it seems pretty inevitable

what you'd personally do is what you'd probably get anyway if you just waited a few more years, and i can sort of accept that i guess

as for this statement, though--"if it doesn't look like it belongs in the game, it doesn't"--i think that's an interesting thing to say, because i agree at face value, but people are, of course, going to have different opinions on what "looks like it belongs" means

personally, as you know, i don't think anyone is of the authority to judge whether anything in a piece of art "belongs" except for the artist himself--and that's why i tend to scoff at the idea of "lore-friendly mods" and claim there's no such thing, because who the fuck are you to say whether something is lore-friendly or not--are you the writer? the director? etc. etc.

yet other people would still argue otherwise

also, touch fight club and i'll mod p5 to be delayed to winter 2018

Walt Disney adapted classic fairy tales and made them the way he wanted, I don't see why I shouldn't do the same with games.

because you're not, in any way whatsoever

you're not walt disney

We just want things to be, in our perception, perfect.
That's all there is in life.

perfection by your own perception is not perfection

They already do that. I've got some VHS copies where the Original Star Wars trilogy got some CGI makeovers (e.g. Adding Hutt to a few scenes).

Then there's the fan recut of the Hobbit trilogy that cut the 12 hour total to just under 4 hours by getting rid of the useless side story, filler, and shit that wasn't in the books.

Having watched both, I'd say it holds it's own as a film, but the original has to be recognised, just as it should for games.

While what makes a mod good is subjective, shit like giving a crab monocles or making a randy savage dragon doesn't fit well or respect Skyrim's theme, for example.

Yeah. Director's cuts exist. Fan cuts can literally fix fundamentally broken, garbage movies.

It doesn't create one tainted movie, it becomes two separate stories. It should be encouraged, not shamed.

You're anti-art. Verb. Anti-art, pro-IP.

also, touch fight club and i'll mod p5 to be delayed to winter 2018

Joke's on you, I got it in the mail half an hour ago. Downloading the Nip audio rn, then I'll play until I need to go to class.

Verbsplosion imminent

I think my main question here is: Why do you consider the developer to know best? Why are they on a pedestal?

because it's their art and any modders who violate the NAP will get The Elder Scrolls VI: The Todd's Recreational Nukes™ dropped on their PC

this is called a story mod - and even in video games, those mods are needless and retarded

they're still fine though - you OWN the copy of the movie/game, you can do whatever you fucking want with it

Another way to look at it is this--We're the judges, and they're the contestants. We're the professors, and they're the students.

We evaluate their art the same way a teacher grades a test. If a game like Nier on PC experiences some bad frame rate issues that require external software to fix, then that's a mark against the game.

What you don't do is fix their error for them and say "all better." No--if a game doesn't work right, and it needs mods to be fixed, you don't just let that slide. That's not what a judge does, because not only is that bad for the game; it also sets a bad precedent for the industry. They can release all the broken, unfinished games they want, because they know they have a community of shitheads and sycophants who will fix ALL their mistakes for them.

That's terrible, and that's what you support if you like mods.

that's not what consumerism is

I don't judge shit - I just want to be entertained

if I can close my eyes to an aspect of a game or ignore it completely to further my enjoyment of it, I will. That's not being a good judge.

Not comparable to mods in any way.

Literally the exact same thing as any other person's alternative cuts.

If it's fundamentally broken, then it can't be fixed.

Fundamental as in completely core aspects of the film are what make it bad. Guess what. Editing is a fundamental part of a film that can be easily redone.

If it needs to be fixed, feel free to fix it, but realize that you're just pissing around with other people's hard work, and whatever shitty ideas you have to improve their art appeal only to you.

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It's not, though--I appreciate art more than you ever could. You want art to be for you--I want it to be for everybody.

You want it to be for the author exclusively.

If my opinion is anti-art, then okay, fuck art.

It's honestly like you were chemically lobotomized in your infancy.

Quote from: Verbatim on April 04, 2017, 03:29:29 PM

Not comparable to mods in any way.

Literally the exact same thing as any other person's alternative cuts.

Except it's the original artist's cuts, making it more akin to a patch than a mod. Making it perfectly acceptable.

Fundamental as in completely core aspects of the film are what make it bad. Guess what. Editing is a fundamental part of a film that can be easily redone.

https://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ambiguity

me verb me spout nonsequiturs at increasingly rapid rate

Do you know what "non-sequitur" means?

You want it to be for the author exclusively.

Probably the exact opposite of what I believe and what I've been saying, actually.

That's actually what you want. Your vision, your authorship, trumps their vision and authorship.

It's honestly like you were chemically lobotomized in your infancy.

HAHA

it's ALMOST like your brain was replaced with POOP!!!!! HAAHAHHAHA XDD GOT EM

Quote from: SecondClass on April 04, 2017, 04:24:28 PM

that's not what consumerism is

dogshit?

a "consumer" is the last thing you should ever want to identify as

doesn't matter what you identify as, it's what you are

the point of buying media is to be entertained, not for that media to be judged

entertainment is a better maxim than artistic integrity