If there were no repercussions...

Solonoid · July 05, 2015, 02:10:08 PM

And nobody was going to miss him, you weren't going to get in trouble, would you kill a person?
Remember, this person has nobody that cares about them.

Let's go a step further and say that if you kill this person, then a hungry child will be fed for the next week.
No, he will not be eating the guy you killed, someone will just give food to the kid's family.

Mat Cauthon · July 05, 2015, 02:11:02 PM

In that scenario, it's very likely that I could.

Verbatim · July 05, 2015, 02:12:40 PM

Nope.

Maybe if it was a hundred STARVING children.

One "hungry" child isn't nearly enough.

Elai · July 05, 2015, 02:13:59 PM

Would they want to be killed?

The Lord Ruler · July 05, 2015, 02:18:31 PM

if the guy was a dick or a shitty person sure

Ásgeirr · July 05, 2015, 02:28:28 PM

Well it would just be boring if it was a person nobody cared about

SecondClass · July 05, 2015, 02:29:54 PM

In spite of sounding edgy, probably.

True Turquoise · July 05, 2015, 02:31:22 PM

challengerX · July 05, 2015, 02:33:12 PM

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Sandtrap · July 05, 2015, 02:36:41 PM

I'd probably be more curious as to why it was me who ended up in a scenario like that and I'd do some talking with the fellow to see why he ended up in a scenario like that.

So, with some possibility, I might kill him by talking him to death.

Yes?

Jim · July 05, 2015, 02:38:19 PM

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Coomer · July 05, 2015, 02:38:41 PM

Can it be myself?

SecondClass · July 05, 2015, 02:41:27 PM

Quote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on July 05, 2015, 02:10:08 PM

And nobody was going to miss him

Why does this even matter? Is the value of your life determined by how many people will miss you when you're dead? That's retarded.

eggsalad · July 05, 2015, 02:42:11 PM

Cannot say that I wouldn't, as evil as it is, it would be an interesting experience that would be difficult to pass.

eggsalad · July 05, 2015, 02:42:55 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on July 05, 2015, 02:41:27 PM

Quote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on July 05, 2015, 02:10:08 PM
And nobody was going to miss him
Why does this even matter? Is the value of your life determined by how many people will miss you when you're dead? That's retarded.

The dead are not alive to feel remorse for their death, meaning your action doesn't cause much suffering. If there are mourners, your action caused a great amount of suffering.

You're retarded.

DAS B00T x2 · July 05, 2015, 02:44:35 PM

I'd hope i'd say no.

SecondClass · July 05, 2015, 02:45:14 PM

Quote from: eggsalad on July 05, 2015, 02:42:55 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on July 05, 2015, 02:41:27 PM
Quote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on July 05, 2015, 02:10:08 PM
And nobody was going to miss him
Why does this even matter? Is the value of your life determined by how many people will miss you when you're dead? That's retarded.
The dead are not alive to feel remorse for their death, meaning your action doesn't cause much suffering. If there are mourners, your action caused a great amount of suffering.

You're retarded.

Who cares? Your life is yours, and nonexistence is worse than anyone feeling bad for you. The idea that we have to depend on others for meaning is so annoying.

eggsalad · July 05, 2015, 02:46:57 PM

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Quote from: eggsalad on July 05, 2015, 02:42:55 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on July 05, 2015, 02:41:27 PM
Quote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on July 05, 2015, 02:10:08 PM
And nobody was going to miss him
Why does this even matter? Is the value of your life determined by how many people will miss you when you're dead? That's retarded.
The dead are not alive to feel remorse for their death, meaning your action doesn't cause much suffering. If there are mourners, your action caused a great amount of suffering.

You're retarded.
Who cares? Your life is yours, and nonexistence is worse than anyone feeling bad for you. The idea that we have to depend on others for meaning is so annoying.

the lack of a family to mourn the victims death frees the killer from thoughts of guilt
i have no idea what you're going on about

challengerX · July 05, 2015, 02:47:01 PM

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SecondClass · July 05, 2015, 02:48:03 PM

Quote from: challengerX on July 05, 2015, 02:47:01 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on July 05, 2015, 02:45:14 PM
Who cares? Your life is yours, and nonexistence is worse than anyone feeling bad for you. The idea that we have to depend on others for meaning is so annoying.
Mad because you're the guy OP is talking about.

Good one?

challengerX · July 05, 2015, 02:48:05 PM

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eggsalad · July 05, 2015, 02:48:57 PM

Quote from: challengerX on July 05, 2015, 02:48:05 PM

Quote from: eggsalad on July 05, 2015, 02:46:57 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on July 05, 2015, 02:45:14 PM
Quote from: eggsalad on July 05, 2015, 02:42:55 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on July 05, 2015, 02:41:27 PM
Quote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on July 05, 2015, 02:10:08 PM
And nobody was going to miss him
Why does this even matter? Is the value of your life determined by how many people will miss you when you're dead? That's retarded.
The dead are not alive to feel remorse for their death, meaning your action doesn't cause much suffering. If there are mourners, your action caused a great amount of suffering.

You're retarded.
Who cares? Your life is yours, and nonexistence is worse than anyone feeling bad for you. The idea that we have to depend on others for meaning is so annoying.
the lack of a family to mourn the victims death frees the killer from thoughts of guilt
i have no idea what you're going on about
Except you still ended somebody's life.

That persons life isn't valueless because he has no friends and family. Instead of waking up tomorrow and eating breakfast, he'll be rotting in a hole.

Still feeling guilt free?

no one ever said his life was valueless
no one said things would be guilt free
just the fact that the only person to mourn the death is dead and therefor not suffering already means that the action of killing him (if done quickly) makes the action easy to justify to one' self

SecondClass · July 05, 2015, 02:49:49 PM

Quote from: eggsalad on July 05, 2015, 02:46:57 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on July 05, 2015, 02:45:14 PM
Quote from: eggsalad on July 05, 2015, 02:42:55 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on July 05, 2015, 02:41:27 PM
Quote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on July 05, 2015, 02:10:08 PM
And nobody was going to miss him
Why does this even matter? Is the value of your life determined by how many people will miss you when you're dead? That's retarded.
The dead are not alive to feel remorse for their death, meaning your action doesn't cause much suffering. If there are mourners, your action caused a great amount of suffering.

You're retarded.
Who cares? Your life is yours, and nonexistence is worse than anyone feeling bad for you. The idea that we have to depend on others for meaning is so annoying.
the lack of a family to mourn the victims death frees the killer from thoughts of guilt
i have no idea what you're going on about

What the fuck? If you're ending a human life, and you're thinking about the family of the person you're murdering, and not, you know, the person you're fucking murdering, you have issues. Really, if someone has no family, it's guiltless to kill him? What?

SecondClass · July 05, 2015, 02:50:45 PM

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Quote from: SecondClass on July 05, 2015, 02:48:03 PM
Quote from: challengerX on July 05, 2015, 02:47:01 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on July 05, 2015, 02:45:14 PM
Who cares? Your life is yours, and nonexistence is worse than anyone feeling bad for you. The idea that we have to depend on others for meaning is so annoying.
Mad because you're the guy OP is talking about.
Good one?
Is this all you can write every time I end your pineapple?

You've never "ended my career". You think your insults are way more witty than they actually are.

Sandtrap · July 05, 2015, 02:51:42 PM

Quote from: eggsalad on July 05, 2015, 02:46:57 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on July 05, 2015, 02:45:14 PM
Quote from: eggsalad on July 05, 2015, 02:42:55 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on July 05, 2015, 02:41:27 PM
Quote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on July 05, 2015, 02:10:08 PM
And nobody was going to miss him
Why does this even matter? Is the value of your life determined by how many people will miss you when you're dead? That's retarded.
The dead are not alive to feel remorse for their death, meaning your action doesn't cause much suffering. If there are mourners, your action caused a great amount of suffering.

You're retarded.
Who cares? Your life is yours, and nonexistence is worse than anyone feeling bad for you. The idea that we have to depend on others for meaning is so annoying.
the lack of a family to mourn the victims death frees the killer from thoughts of guilt
i have no idea what you're going on about

Honestly if I was dropped into a situation where I was told to kill somebody with no family, no friends, nobody, I sure as fuck wouldn't be abstained from guilt.

Imagine it. Going up to someone, who went through what you could say was arguably a pretty shitty life because they never had anybody, and then you kill them.

They went through all of that through their life, to just to be put down?

That's not guilt free at all. That's fucking depressing.

Have you ever met people with no friends to speak of or any family? Anybody that likes them? Those sort of people bring out so much pity.

eggsalad · July 05, 2015, 02:51:54 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on July 05, 2015, 02:49:49 PM

Quote from: eggsalad on July 05, 2015, 02:46:57 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on July 05, 2015, 02:45:14 PM
Quote from: eggsalad on July 05, 2015, 02:42:55 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on July 05, 2015, 02:41:27 PM
Quote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on July 05, 2015, 02:10:08 PM
And nobody was going to miss him
Why does this even matter? Is the value of your life determined by how many people will miss you when you're dead? That's retarded.
The dead are not alive to feel remorse for their death, meaning your action doesn't cause much suffering. If there are mourners, your action caused a great amount of suffering.

You're retarded.
Who cares? Your life is yours, and nonexistence is worse than anyone feeling bad for you. The idea that we have to depend on others for meaning is so annoying.
the lack of a family to mourn the victims death frees the killer from thoughts of guilt
i have no idea what you're going on about
What the fuck? If you're ending a human life, and you're thinking about the family of the person you're murdering, and not, you know, the person you're fucking murdering, you have issues. Really, if someone has no family, it's guiltless to kill him? What?

No one ever said it would be guilt free.
Simply the lack of people to feel misery over the fact after you kill him is a significantly easier sin for someone to get over then knowing they are putting a family into emotional turmoil.

Verbatim · July 05, 2015, 02:52:44 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on July 05, 2015, 02:41:27 PM

Quote from: Sᴏʟᴏɴᴏɪᴅ on July 05, 2015, 02:10:08 PM
And nobody was going to miss him
Why does this even matter? Is the value of your life determined by how many people will miss you when you're dead? That's retarded.

This is what Solonoid actually believes, yes.

Solonoid · July 05, 2015, 02:53:26 PM

Quote from: challengerX on July 05, 2015, 02:47:01 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on July 05, 2015, 02:45:14 PM
Who cares? Your life is yours, and nonexistence is worse than anyone feeling bad for you. The idea that we have to depend on others for meaning is so annoying.
Mad because you're the guy OP is talking about.

gats · July 05, 2015, 02:53:43 PM

i think so