Extra credit: Would they have lost the war if those resources had been used elsewhere?
YeahNobody knew how bad the camps really were until they actually found them
And I don't really get the second question. Slave labor from the camps was an invaluable resource, and a few extra battalions of SS men wouldn't have made any difference on the Ostfront.
I can just imagine the conversations in NAZI Germany. When they proposed to take all the Jews into cattle cars, shave their hair off, bunk them for years at a time, and then off them with cyanide gas.Mein Herr, are you sure you want to implement this plan? Wouldn't it me simpler to just kill them and roll them into a ditch like all the other evil genocidal hickwits in history?No, you have your orders. Implement this wasteful and ridiculous system. It makes us look more evil if we do it this way. (strokes hairless cat and cackles).But you gave us blueprints for "gas showers" with only one wooden door and no ventilation. So we will kill ourselves from the Zyklon and then have to carry bodies bast the next batch . Why should we bother to pretend it is a gas chamber if we are dragging bodies through?No, you don't get it. To make us look as evil as possible, we need a James Bond Villain, ridiculous can't-possibly-work Rube-Goldberg Dr-Evil system. You get bonus points is you squander valuable war resources on some overly complicated way to make yourself more !EVIL! looking. Look, maybe you can at least pretend like some lampshades were commissioned by Hitler and some soap of something. And use the number 6 million a lot. That is catchy.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 24, 2016, 04:58:38 PMAnd I don't really get the second question. Slave labor from the camps was an invaluable resource, and a few extra battalions of SS men wouldn't have made any difference on the Ostfront.Well there were a lot of German Jewish scientists who worked on the Manhattan project that could've helped the nazis make the a-bomb first
This program started in April 1939, just months after the discovery of nuclear fission in December 1938, but ended only months later due to the German invasion of Poland, after many notable physicists were drafted into the Wehrmacht.
A second effort began under the administrative purview of the Wehrmacht's Heereswaffenamt on 1 September 1939, the day of the Invasion of Poland. The program eventually expanded into three main efforts: the Uranmaschine (nuclear reactor), uranium and heavy water production, and uranium isotope separation. Eventually it was assessed that nuclear fission would not contribute significantly to ending the war, and in January 1942, the Heereswaffenamt turned the program over to the Reich Research Council (Reichsforschungsrat) while continuing to fund the program. The program was split up among nine major institutes where the directors dominated the research and set their own objectives. Subsequently, the number of scientists working on applied nuclear fission began to diminish, with many applying their talents to more pressing war-time demands.
Yes. We had pledged support to the Soviets before we even realized the extent of the labor camps, and as any victor in a war, we would still demonize our opponents. It would have been no different than WWI, in which the Central Powers were the good guys against the Zionist controlled Entante (why else were French and Russian alliances made aside from Jewish banking interest? Hmmmmmmmmmmm?).
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 24, 2016, 02:02:12 AMYes. We had pledged support to the Soviets before we even realized the extent of the labor camps, and as any victor in a war, we would still demonize our opponents. It would have been no different than WWI, in which the Central Powers were the good guys against the Zionist controlled Entante (why else were French and Russian alliances made aside from Jewish banking interest? Hmmmmmmmmmmm?).because Wilhelm II shit the bed
Quote from: 「Prime」 on December 25, 2016, 08:48:35 AMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 24, 2016, 02:02:12 AMYes. We had pledged support to the Soviets before we even realized the extent of the labor camps, and as any victor in a war, we would still demonize our opponents. It would have been no different than WWI, in which the Central Powers were the good guys against the Zionist controlled Entante (why else were French and Russian alliances made aside from Jewish banking interest? Hmmmmmmmmmmm?).because Wilhelm II shit the bedBut Bismark created the Triple Alliance.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 25, 2016, 09:55:52 AMQuote from: 「Prime」 on December 25, 2016, 08:48:35 AMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 24, 2016, 02:02:12 AMYes. We had pledged support to the Soviets before we even realized the extent of the labor camps, and as any victor in a war, we would still demonize our opponents. It would have been no different than WWI, in which the Central Powers were the good guys against the Zionist controlled Entante (why else were French and Russian alliances made aside from Jewish banking interest? Hmmmmmmmmmmm?).because Wilhelm II shit the bedBut Bismark created the Triple Alliance.Wouldn't have been a problem if Russian wasn't pissy after the Russo-Japanese War and Wilhelm hadn't dismissed Bismark while dropping the Three Emperors' League and building up his navy.
Quote from: 「Prime」 on December 25, 2016, 10:23:47 AMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 25, 2016, 09:55:52 AMQuote from: 「Prime」 on December 25, 2016, 08:48:35 AMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 24, 2016, 02:02:12 AMYes. We had pledged support to the Soviets before we even realized the extent of the labor camps, and as any victor in a war, we would still demonize our opponents. It would have been no different than WWI, in which the Central Powers were the good guys against the Zionist controlled Entante (why else were French and Russian alliances made aside from Jewish banking interest? Hmmmmmmmmmmm?).because Wilhelm II shit the bedBut Bismark created the Triple Alliance.Wouldn't have been a problem if Russian wasn't pissy after the Russo-Japanese War and Wilhelm hadn't dismissed Bismark while dropping the Three Emperors' League and building up his navy.Participation in the Anglo-German naval arms race was a good thing for the economy and military capabilities.
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 25, 2016, 11:11:33 AMQuote from: 「Prime」 on December 25, 2016, 10:23:47 AMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 25, 2016, 09:55:52 AMQuote from: 「Prime」 on December 25, 2016, 08:48:35 AMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 24, 2016, 02:02:12 AMYes. We had pledged support to the Soviets before we even realized the extent of the labor camps, and as any victor in a war, we would still demonize our opponents. It would have been no different than WWI, in which the Central Powers were the good guys against the Zionist controlled Entante (why else were French and Russian alliances made aside from Jewish banking interest? Hmmmmmmmmmmm?).because Wilhelm II shit the bedBut Bismark created the Triple Alliance.Wouldn't have been a problem if Russian wasn't pissy after the Russo-Japanese War and Wilhelm hadn't dismissed Bismark while dropping the Three Emperors' League and building up his navy.Participation in the Anglo-German naval arms race was a good thing for the economy and military capabilities.But not for inter-European relations, which came at a premium post-unification and greatly assisted in bringing about WWI.
Quote from: 「Prime」 on December 25, 2016, 12:26:36 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 25, 2016, 11:11:33 AMQuote from: 「Prime」 on December 25, 2016, 10:23:47 AMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 25, 2016, 09:55:52 AMQuote from: 「Prime」 on December 25, 2016, 08:48:35 AMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 24, 2016, 02:02:12 AMYes. We had pledged support to the Soviets before we even realized the extent of the labor camps, and as any victor in a war, we would still demonize our opponents. It would have been no different than WWI, in which the Central Powers were the good guys against the Zionist controlled Entante (why else were French and Russian alliances made aside from Jewish banking interest? Hmmmmmmmmmmm?).because Wilhelm II shit the bedBut Bismark created the Triple Alliance.Wouldn't have been a problem if Russian wasn't pissy after the Russo-Japanese War and Wilhelm hadn't dismissed Bismark while dropping the Three Emperors' League and building up his navy.Participation in the Anglo-German naval arms race was a good thing for the economy and military capabilities.But not for inter-European relations, which came at a premium post-unification and greatly assisted in bringing about WWI.>wanting relations with the Muscovites
Quote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 25, 2016, 12:57:16 PMQuote from: 「Prime」 on December 25, 2016, 12:26:36 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 25, 2016, 11:11:33 AMQuote from: 「Prime」 on December 25, 2016, 10:23:47 AMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 25, 2016, 09:55:52 AMQuote from: 「Prime」 on December 25, 2016, 08:48:35 AMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 24, 2016, 02:02:12 AMYes. We had pledged support to the Soviets before we even realized the extent of the labor camps, and as any victor in a war, we would still demonize our opponents. It would have been no different than WWI, in which the Central Powers were the good guys against the Zionist controlled Entante (why else were French and Russian alliances made aside from Jewish banking interest? Hmmmmmmmmmmm?).because Wilhelm II shit the bedBut Bismark created the Triple Alliance.Wouldn't have been a problem if Russian wasn't pissy after the Russo-Japanese War and Wilhelm hadn't dismissed Bismark while dropping the Three Emperors' League and building up his navy.Participation in the Anglo-German naval arms race was a good thing for the economy and military capabilities.But not for inter-European relations, which came at a premium post-unification and greatly assisted in bringing about WWI.>wanting relations with the MuscovitesYou work with the materials that you're given; to ignore the stronger option because of pride is foolish.
Quote from: 「Prime」 on December 25, 2016, 01:39:56 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 25, 2016, 12:57:16 PMQuote from: 「Prime」 on December 25, 2016, 12:26:36 PMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 25, 2016, 11:11:33 AMQuote from: 「Prime」 on December 25, 2016, 10:23:47 AMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 25, 2016, 09:55:52 AMQuote from: 「Prime」 on December 25, 2016, 08:48:35 AMQuote from: DAS B00T x2 on December 24, 2016, 02:02:12 AMYes. We had pledged support to the Soviets before we even realized the extent of the labor camps, and as any victor in a war, we would still demonize our opponents. It would have been no different than WWI, in which the Central Powers were the good guys against the Zionist controlled Entante (why else were French and Russian alliances made aside from Jewish banking interest? Hmmmmmmmmmmm?).because Wilhelm II shit the bedBut Bismark created the Triple Alliance.Wouldn't have been a problem if Russian wasn't pissy after the Russo-Japanese War and Wilhelm hadn't dismissed Bismark while dropping the Three Emperors' League and building up his navy.Participation in the Anglo-German naval arms race was a good thing for the economy and military capabilities.But not for inter-European relations, which came at a premium post-unification and greatly assisted in bringing about WWI.>wanting relations with the MuscovitesYou work with the materials that you're given; to ignore the stronger option because of pride is foolish.It's not pride babe, it's logic. Never trust the Muscovites.
If the Nazis didn't commit the holocaust...
