If marijuana was legal, would you try it?

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Honestly, you don't have to try pot twice to feel the effects. You just have to make sure you actually inhale the smoke or vapor. Newbies often just take a few puffs and let the smoke sit in their mouths for a few seconds without actually breathing it in.

If it's good enough weed then you're going to feel the effects if you actually smoke it right. THC hits you almost immediately.
yeah thats why im confused about why gatsby said he didnt feel anything. he says he smokes cigarettes, so you'd figure he knows how to inhale the right way


 
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Not to mention, I'd either have to use a vaporizer or put it in food or something. Because fuck actually breathing the smoke. Dumbest shit everrr.


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Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Alcohol made me suicidal the first and only time I've ever been drunk, because I was so upset with myself that I did it in the first place.
If being under the influence just once makes you suicidal, then I would defo suggest not touching any substances. The fact that you reacted that way alludes to some mental problems, (depression, anxiety, whatever) and altering perception isn't going to help with that. I'd get that sorted out, because someone with a healthy mentality shouldn't consider ending their own life because of something like that.


 
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If Carl Sagan would have been a 100/100 on the intelligence scale, he was actually more like a 99/100 because he smoked pot.

And, yes.

MURDEROUS.

SUICIDAL.


 
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"I'd get that sorted out,
"IF YOU DON'T WANNA BE A DRUGGIE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, YOU MUST HAVE MENTAL PROBLEMS."

Kindly fuck off. I'm perfectly content with my straight-edge-ness. I may be depressed, but that sort of comes with the territory of being me. It's not exactly treatable.

I'm REALLY not worried about not being able to do drugs without wanting to kill myself. The solution is to not do drugs, because that's stupid as fuck. Problem solved.


 
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It doesn't have that effect on most people.
When the fuck did I say that it did? I didn't. That doesn't change my opinion on drugs one iota.


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"I'd get that sorted out,
"IF YOU DON'T WANNA BE A DRUGGIE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, YOU MUST HAVE MENTAL PROBLEMS."

Kindly fuck off. I'm perfectly content with my straight-edge-ness. I may be depressed, but that sort of comes with the territory of being me. It's not exactly treatable.

I'm REALLY not worried about not being able to do drugs without wanting to kill myself. The solution is to not do drugs, because that's stupid as fuck. Problem solved.
drug conversation aside, it sounds like you dont even want to feel better. i dont know whether to laugh or feel pity for you.


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Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
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"I'd get that sorted out,
"IF YOU DON'T WANNA BE A DRUGGIE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, YOU MUST HAVE MENTAL PROBLEMS."
It's not that you don't want to do any drugs. It's that you actually considered killing yourself because you drank alcohol just once. Feeling bad about it is one thing, but becoming suicidal is definitely a sign of some sort of mental problem.


 
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I'm pretty sure you interpreted what was being said wrong.
Regardless, I don't need his fucking makeshift quack-ass diagnosis. That is just so obnoxious.


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I'm pretty sure you interpreted what was being said wrong.
Regardless, I don't need his fucking makeshift quack-ass diagnosis. That is just so obnoxious.
so you'd rather self-diagnose and live under the impression that your depression isnt treatable? here's a reality check, kid: it's all in your head.


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"I'd get that sorted out,
"IF YOU DON'T WANNA BE A DRUGGIE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, YOU MUST HAVE MENTAL PROBLEMS."

Kindly fuck off. I'm perfectly content with my straight-edge-ness. I may be depressed, but that sort of comes with the territory of being me. It's not exactly treatable.

I'm REALLY not worried about not being able to do drugs without wanting to kill myself. The solution is to not do drugs, because that's stupid as fuck. Problem solved.
drug conversation aside, it sounds like you dont even want to feel better. i dont know whether to laugh or feel pity for you.


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I'm pretty sure you interpreted what was being said wrong.
Regardless, I don't need his fucking makeshift quack-ass diagnosis. That is just so obnoxious.
so you'd rather self-diagnose and live under the impression that your depression isnt treatable? here's a reality check, kid: it's all in your head.
actually clinical depression is the result of physical affliction of the brain.


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I'm pretty sure you interpreted what was being said wrong.
Regardless, I don't need his fucking makeshift quack-ass diagnosis. That is just so obnoxious.
so you'd rather self-diagnose and live under the impression that your depression isnt treatable? here's a reality check, kid: it's all in your head.
actually clinical depression is the result of physical affliction of the brain.
somehow i seriously doubt he's seen a professional.


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It's not that you don't want to do any drugs. It's that you actually considered killing yourself because you drank alcohol just once. Feeling bad about it is one thing, but becoming suicidal is definitely a sign of some sort of mental problem.
Because it's weird for a human not to want to be alive? I don't think that's weird at all. I think that's rational, mostly.

And it wasn't just for the alcohol, either. That was the capstone to a long series of fuck-ups that made up the consistency of my life.


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"I'd get that sorted out,
"IF YOU DON'T WANNA BE A DRUGGIE LIKE EVERYONE ELSE, YOU MUST HAVE MENTAL PROBLEMS."

Kindly fuck off. I'm perfectly content with my straight-edge-ness. I may be depressed, but that sort of comes with the territory of being me. It's not exactly treatable.

I'm REALLY not worried about not being able to do drugs without wanting to kill myself. The solution is to not do drugs, because that's stupid as fuck. Problem solved.
Really, if you're depressed, getting a prescription to balance you out would be preferable. Also, I don't know why you're so vehemently against drugs. While I do understand that there are people out that who have completely ruined their life due to drugs, for some people drugs have allowed their life to get better. Really, the first time I took shrooms, I felt this form of happiness I have never felt before, and sense of peace that I never really felt. With weed, I am able to relax more often. A good amount of the time when sober, I am high strung or depressed, constantly dealing with thoughts about how to live in the absurd. I will say this, drugs have helped me.
no doing drugs is fucking stupid and people who smoke are idiots and my lifestyle is the only legitimate lifestyle choice


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I'm pretty sure you interpreted what was being said wrong.
Regardless, I don't need his fucking makeshift quack-ass diagnosis. That is just so obnoxious.
so you'd rather self-diagnose and live under the impression that your depression isnt treatable? here's a reality check, kid: it's all in your head.
actually clinical depression is the result of physical affliction of the brain.
somehow i seriously doubt he's seen a professional.
I was just pointing out that "it's all in your head" doesn't really apply unless you mean literally, physically, rather than the usual figurative meaning.


 
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so you'd rather self-diagnose and live under the impression that your depression isnt treatable? here's a reality check, kid: it's all in your head.
I don't want to be treated, kid. Here's a reality check: Life fucking sucks. I SHOULDN'T be complacent about it. I SHOULD be depressed all the time.


 
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Really, if you're depressed, getting a prescription to balance you out would be preferable.
Does "straight-edge" mean nothing to you?


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Really, if you're depressed, getting a prescription to balance you out would be preferable.
Does "straight-edge" mean nothing to you?
so do you not take allergy meds or antacids

whats your stance on mineral water? is that edge enough?


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Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
It's not that you don't want to do any drugs. It's that you actually considered killing yourself because you drank alcohol just once. Feeling bad about it is one thing, but becoming suicidal is definitely a sign of some sort of mental problem.
Because it's weird for a human not to want to be alive? I don't think that's weird at all. I think that's rational, mostly.
Going from alright to suicidal after drinking just once is definitely evidence of some kind of mental disorder. You didn't explain that your suicidal thoughts were the culmination of multiple issues.

And if you believe that such a quick end to suffering is rational, then why do you endure?


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Because it's weird for a human not to want to be alive? I don't think that's weird at all. I think that's rational, mostly.
Yes, it is weird. It's unhealthy, unnatural. The natural state of mind for all life is survival at all costs. If you think about killing yourself and death as normal way to think, then...well it's pretty obvious that you're mentally unhealthy.
That is insane.

Did you know that I'm an anti-natalist? I believe that it is wrong to have children, and I don't view "survival" as a good enough reason to impose life on other sentient beings. I think we should all go extinct. I guess I have a huge mental problem.

"Unnatural" is a fallacy. I don't buy it for a second. Excrement is natural, murder is natural, rape is natural. None of these things are good or desirable. Neither is life.

"Unhealthy"? How? If someone doesn't like life, why can't they just not like life? Why does it mean that they are retarded or something?


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I'm pretty sure you interpreted what was being said wrong.
Regardless, I don't need his fucking makeshift quack-ass diagnosis. That is just so obnoxious.
so you'd rather self-diagnose and live under the impression that your depression isnt treatable? here's a reality check, kid: it's all in your head.
actually clinical depression is the result of physical affliction of the brain.
I think it's best if we don't get into a debate over the cause of depression. It's kind of off topic and no one here is a doctor/professional.

edit// looks like we're going that route anyway.
never mind.
sorry, but I'll put it this way. the mind, as a product of a complex physical system, is itself physical. simply put, the mind is something the brain does. if you accept philosophical materialism/physicalism you can't get around that.

I'm well aware that I'm not, no one here is, qualified to say what that cause is.


 
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so do you not take allergy meds or antacids
Yeah, nope. Nothing.
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whats your stance on mineral water? is that edge enough?
Um, I don't really know much about that, actually. Is all that's in it is minerals? Then I don't see any reason to be against it, unless it gets you high or puts otherwise detrimental chemicals into your body.


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so do you not take allergy meds or antacids
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whats your stance on mineral water? is that edge enough?
Um, I don't really know much about that, actually. Is all that's in it is minerals? Then I don't see any reason to be against it, unless it gets you high or puts otherwise detrimental chemicals into your body.
do you come from a family of christian scientists or something? because ive known tons of straight edge people, but ive never met someone who refuses to take tums or benadryl because they dont want to break edge.


 
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You didn't explain that your suicidal thoughts were the culmination of multiple issues.
I figured that much would have been obvious.
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And if you believe that such a quick end to suffering is rational, then why do you endure?
Siiiigh.

I've been asked this question a mind-numbing number of times.

First of all, a lot of people would be affected if I were to kill myself. I don't feel like giving my friends and family years of depression of their own. Secondly, there's still a lot for me to do in this life. I have many projects I'd like to finish, and messages to send. If I'm a slave during the slave trade, and I want to end slavery, I'm not going to succeed by killing myself. No, I'm going to attempt, in whatever ways I am able to, to make change so that future generations can live more comfortably (and peacefully cease to be once everyone hopefully becomes anti-natalist).


 
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do you come from a family of christian scientists or something? because ive known tons of straight edge people, but ive never met someone who refuses to take tums or benadryl because they dont want to break edge.
I come from a family of secularists/deists/atheists. They tend to vacillate here and there on whether or not there's a god, but they're certainly not Christian by any means.

I'm not even vaccinated for anything. And I'm never sick. Like, ever.
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Ya fuckin' ganderneck.
Siiiigh.

I've been asked this question a mind-numbing number of times.

First of all, a lot of people would be affected if I were to kill myself. I don't feel like giving my friends and family years of depression of their own. Secondly, there's still a lot for me to do in this life. I have many projects I'd like to finish, and messages to send. If I'm a slave during the slave trade, and I want to end slavery, I'm not going to succeed by killing myself. No, I'm going to attempt, in whatever ways I am able to, to make change so that future generations can live more comfortably (and peacefully cease to be once everyone hopefully becomes anti-natalist).
Well then you have some goals in life? Then where is the rationality in dying? It would do nothing to further your aspirations. Relative to your life and your ambition, staying alive seems to be a rational thing.

Ultimately all of that is meaningless, of course, so one could argue that there's no point to living. But, in that context, rationality is also meaningless and doesn't even exist.