You're not doing anything special, and you're still a whiny little shit.
I didn't have to check, I had them handed to me. I knew a vegetarian in high school who attempted to coerce me into following her diet, which included multiple meat substitutes. Much like you, but less bitchy and amusing. None of them were as good as the real thing.
Nature is nature. There's nothing wrong with how it naturally exists.
Things live, suffer, and die. Which is against all your "morals" sure, but for most of us the experience is worthwhile nonetheless.
The idea of changing the way nature works based on your "morals" is foolish at best
There's no such thing as perfect, no matter what.
Pointless insults again, nice.
You said yourself that you'd like to change the way nature works.
You know, by eliminating all the carnivores and making everything else sterile.
Quote from: Verbatim on August 17, 2015, 05:55:26 PMNature is broken.There is no perfection in nature. There is no balance in nature.It isn't intelligent, it isn't justified, and it isn't beautiful.I respectfully disagree, because it is quite beautiful; and its brokenness is part of what makes it so beautiful. To eliminate it all because you don't like the way it works would be, in my personal view, one of the most immoral things you can do.
Nature is broken.There is no perfection in nature. There is no balance in nature.It isn't intelligent, it isn't justified, and it isn't beautiful.
I respectfully disagree, because it is quite beautiful; and its brokenness is part of what makes it so beautiful.
To eliminate it all because you don't like the way it works would be, in my personal view, one of the most immoral things you can do.
(partially because it's fine the way it is, everything balances itself out)
Nothing has any value in the absence of God
Dude, when the hell did I say that? I'm talking about interfering with other species that exist in the wild.
Really, there was no point to that part of your post. There were no "facts" present, it was just a cheap insult.
That's changing the way nature works.
So if life has no value, why do you care if it suffers or not?
That's not even a proper analogy.
Seriously, am I the only one annoyed by this?"I want to be a vegan/vegetarian/weird-person-who-only-eats-fish-but-not-other-meat but OMG I just sooo totally don't have the willpower to not eat a steak"You really don't want to be a veg-whatever-you-choose and are just trying to make yourself look good with an excuse.
My argument is that it isn't going to change
partially because it's fine the way it is
and we as humans have no right to interfere unless it's to repair the damage that our species has done.
Things die in nature and it gives life to other things. It's a balance. Sunrise, sunset. It's not a difficult concept to understand.The Holocaust was nonsensical killing for the sake of extermination.
Quote from: guts on August 17, 2015, 06:24:58 PM"Things die in nature to gives others life" Yeah but I can not kill that chicken over there and eat carbs instead and guess what??? I'll be fine.I don't see how that's relevant.
"Things die in nature to gives others life" Yeah but I can not kill that chicken over there and eat carbs instead and guess what??? I'll be fine.
By the way, since you missed the meaning I was trying to convey.Sunrise meaning the start of life, sunset meaning the end of it. But the sun always rises again the next day.
You're missing the "you can't explain that"Except you can. Everything in nature has an explanation.But nice try.
Sunrise meaning the start of life, sunset meaning the end of it. But the sun always rises again the next day.
I'm not justifying it.
This is tiring and pointless, but I'll just address this because you view on this is really quite skewed.Quote from: Verbatim on August 17, 2015, 06:14:47 PMif nature is perfectly balanced, where is the justification for the holocaust?Things die in nature and it gives life to other things. It's a balance. Sunrise, sunset. It's not a difficult concept to understand.The Holocaust was nonsensical killing for the sake of extermination.
if nature is perfectly balanced, where is the justification for the holocaust?
Many of us enjoy life.
and eat carbs instead
You'd do a better job of equating those rapes to the holocaust than to the cycle of nature.It was done out of selfish desire, not for survival.
Quote from: ॐ Nuka on August 17, 2015, 06:34:35 PMMany of us enjoy life.Many of us don't. Account for these people. Acknowledge the fact that just because you might be content with your life, doesn't mean someone else is.
Quote from: Verbatim on August 17, 2015, 06:38:44 PMQuote from: ॐ Nuka on August 17, 2015, 06:36:53 PMYou'd do a better job of equating those rapes to the holocaust than to the cycle of nature.It was done out of selfish desire, not for survival.Survival is a selfish desire.But it's necessary.
Quote from: ॐ Nuka on August 17, 2015, 06:36:53 PMYou'd do a better job of equating those rapes to the holocaust than to the cycle of nature.It was done out of selfish desire, not for survival.Survival is a selfish desire.
i personally commend vegans and vegetarians
