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You say that like it's a bad thing.

/b/ is shit. There's a reason it's known as the cancerous containment board of 4chan.

NSFW is just begging for abuse IMO.

If it's marked and spoilered, I'm totally fine with that. The rule following members will follow the rules and the non rule following ones have or will post NSFW stuff if we like it or not.

We're not solely trying to make a b.old knockoff. We're trying to make a good forum; to improve b.old. This idea would allow users to create interesting, unique threads, while also giving people who don't want to see NSFW stuff an easy out. I don't see any downside to it.

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There's so many downsides, I wouldn't know where South is anymore. Malicious content, CP? Anything that can get this site put down?

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To be clear, I'm not in favor of this idea, but I'm not against it.
So I'm neutral, but only on the grounds that everything is clearly marked and easily hidden.

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There's so many downsides, I wouldn't know where South is anymore. Malicious content, CP? Anything that can get this site put down?

Did you not even read the idea? Anything that could get the site deleted isn't NSFW, it's completely off-limits.

Did you not even read the idea? Anything that could get the site deleted isn't NSFW, it's completely off-limits.

There's still other things. But anyways;

The idea still brings about horrendous things. Things that should stay in 4chan.

Wow, I just realized how out of context this sounds like a horrible thing... So allow me to put it into context.

NSFW content reaches across great leaps and bounds. Upon looking at the rules, I fear it is a bit too easy to accidentally post something against the rules and get banned without realizing it. If there were the rule that questionable content be put in a spoiler, it would allow for more freedom without compromising the current discussion.

I don't say to let up on all NSFW content because I'm sitting in the background going, "'ey guize! moar pronz for us all!" There exist sites for that kind of discussion already, and the last thing that I would want is a site like this becoming that. Instead, what I'm leaning more toward is opening a channel for some additional content to be allowed to be discussed.

I know, the prospect is quite frightening. What if when we do this, all that everyone posts is gore? What if when this is allowed, everyone just posts pronz, and nothing else?

If that is what happens, then the community here has some serious flaws beyond just censorship. I get that Bungie.net has a lot to contend with because of their high user count, but last I saw, there were ~170 members here. I'm not saying that we should be looking upon NSFW content with eyes of glory, but what if a liveleak video comes out with a horrendous topic at heart? Would I be unable to link to it? Or should I be allowed to post it and discuss it with an NSFW tag?

If this forum does not want this, I understand, I'm a newcomer, who am I to even begin suggesting that you guys change up your tempo? I just figured that if this kind of thing were allowed in OP's and properly tagged and such that it would allow for some mature discussion here and there. I know that fun and games on forums make them great to be on, but it was a thought I was mulling over in my head.

I don't mean this in any way offensively, but I can definitely tell in the air that this forum is new. I didn't have to really look too hard to guess that you guys probably haven't even been huge for even half a year yet. I don't look down upon you for it, but as a community, it is possible that eventually you may wish to discuss more mature topics at some point. The spoiler and NSFW tag system to allow OP's to have this would allow for that eventually.

Once again though, as I said, this is only me throwing ideas around. I'm a newcomer and don't intend to destroy what you guys have got here.

You're fine. There's been a bit of back and forth about the rules being too restricting versus the fear of what would happen if they were too lax. I'm just trying to get a feel for something that would work the best for everyone. There are, unfortunately, members here who would abuse the freedom to post NSFW content; and IP bans are only an obstacle to them.

And you're spot on about how new we are. Sep7agon hasn't even been up a month yet.

You're fine. There's been a bit of back and forth about the rules being too restricting versus the fear of what would happen if they were too lax. I'm just trying to get a feel for something that would work the best for everyone. There are, unfortunately, members here who would abuse the freedom to post NSFW content; and IP bans are only an obstacle to them.

And you're spot on about how new we are. Sep7agon hasn't even been up a month yet.

Once again, no offense, but it really feels this way. Somehow, I've gotten a pretty good knack for knowing how forums, once made, will progress, since I've been a part of so many empires that have risen and fallen. My resume includes: Teh L9, J4LR, Flood V2, Sapphire, and many other smaller ones. I've been a founding member of many groups. The discussion and especially allowance of mature content is always quite a scary thing. I might just be bringing it up too soon and scaring away the members who are hesitant about becoming invested so soon to begin with.

Honestly, some groups handle it better than others, and I've been on both sides of the spectrum. J4LR and Teh L9 mostly treated it like cooties and stayed very infantile for the most part toward it. Flood V2 and Sapphire quickly jumped toward allowing it with restrictions, and it became a problem for the more immature members since they didn't restrict it enough. The b.net MLP group treated it like the plague for the most part and allowed discussion, but no actual content (similar to here).

The best example of what you could hope to achieve is something like what Reddit has got going in terms of its general system. The users are mature enough such that if the content is posted just to go, "OOH! Gawk at this!' it gets downvoted into oblivion for being stupid, while genuine discussion is allowed. NSFW content has a more mature air in its allowance. Sure, stupidity still occurs. Reddit is a HUGE place, for every intelligent user there are about a hundred blubbering idiots. That said, content is still handled maturely by the community, and that's the important part. The community dictates the content.

As previously stated, this group might just be too young for it right now. It is possible you guys just have not developed that closely knit feel for each other and mutual sense of direction, in which case it would be better to postpone this discussion for a few months or even a year.

I dunno...


If I wanted to go see NSFW stuff I'd go somewhere else anyway for it.


And then, say if we allowed it. A(nother) thread about Israel and Palestine pops up on the Serious board with an NSFW tag. OP goes on about how X side is evil because (insert attachment of blown up corpses here). A one sided discussion, ignoring any facts and simply focusing on the picture. Not much really to discuss tbh.


Another example. Say Rose got back on and started posting those weird pictures again, this time with an NSFW tag. He's tagged it, spoiler'd them, maybe even generated some bullshit discussion about them. We all know the motive is shock value, but would it be a ban-able post?


I just don't really see how it would add to discussion, and as many have already said, is ripe for abuse of the system if it were in place. I'm happy for NSFW-ish stuff to be talked about, but I'm not really interested in seeing a pictures or videos of it. I've got LiveLeak and 95% of the internet to see gore and porn.

Why are people complaining even if the NSFW stuff is marked as so? Nobody would force them to look at the thread. This tag system is a great idea and has my full support.

Noof and WHU have always handled NSFW content well.

When the lot of you and this site get a little older, grow out of your 'just another internet persona to you people' phase, and really start getting to know each other more personally as a whole then there's a good chance you might change your minds about this rule. It doesn't inherently mean that nothing but gore and porn will be spammed to the end of time or that people will just use it as another bait tool.

The fact that most of you gave this suggestion a flat out 'NO' shows how little trust you all still have for each other for the most part. I suppose that is to be expected, though, as most of you are just now beginning to break away from B.net and become part of a more tight-knit community.

I see no reason to get rid of the "Graphic Violence" rule. If A Dumb Door wants to discuss that shit, go somewhere else.

What Noelle said.

I'm open to some NSFW stuff but lets keep the "Graphic Violence" rule as it is. Sure you can post fictional violence all you want but this isn't bestgore, keep the executions and war footage in the shocksites.

More tentacles the better.

Another example. Say Rose got back on and started posting those weird pictures again, this time with an NSFW tag. He's tagged it, spoiler'd them, maybe even generated some bullshit discussion about them. We all know the motive is shock value, but would it be a ban-able post?

That was an imposter account. Probably garem.

That was an imposter account. Probably garem.

The fact that you know about that Rose imposter means you've been here for a while but this account is brand new.

So then what reason was there to create a brand new account? I wonder. . .

The fact that you know about that Rose imposter means you've been here for a while but this account is brand new.

So then what reason was there to create a brand new account? I wonder. . .

>Garem
>Rose imposter

wat

The fact that you know about that Rose imposter means you've been here for a while but this account is brand new.

So then what reason was there to create a brand new account? I wonder. . .

Didn't really invest a lot of time here. I lurked. Made one earlier but forgot the login.

Nah, keep it PG-13

Didn't really invest a lot of time here. I lurked. Made one earlier but forgot the login.

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And not to mention you have a super generic email address.

Do that for all accounts. Bnet include. Well at least accounts that aren't tied to my credit card.

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My god that's creepy.

I use mobile, and spoiler tags are broken. I'd basically have to restrict myself to this site only when I'm on PC, which would severely reduce my activity.

I don't see the need for it. It doesn't really add any discussion IMO. Sure it makes the place more "mature" but it also makes the place less appealing when I'm scrolling through a thread and someone throws in porn or gore.

I don't come here for that stuff. We aren't very big either, and I fear NSFW stuff would just send people away. Maybe at a later point. I'm all for a more lax moderation but I feel it's already lax.

You're going to allow NSFW?

Vien is going to have a field day.

Don't imply that I enjoy posting my sangheili phallus on here. Usually I become a little more content from the reactions.

Don't imply that I enjoy posting my sangheili phallus on here. Usually I become a little more content from the reactions.

So you do like it?

So you do like it?

It's just art to me. I don't see how I can turn myself on.