Yeah, it HAS to be because I'm a fanboy, not because it might actually be "deep", God forbid right?
You're right, I asked for a similar character, but visual designs is grasping at straws, and the only character you provided as far as behavior/personality/purposes go wasn't similar at all.
It's not deep. Even if Darth Vader was a completely original character, that still wouldn't make Star Wars deep. Not even close.
Yes, he was. Saying that "he doesn't" doesn't make you right.
"It's not deep because I said so!"
Wanting to rule galaxies =/= Following someone who wants to rule the galaxy
Quote from: Ian on April 11, 2016, 07:57:57 PM"It's not deep because I said so!" It's not deep because it's not deep. Explain to me how, if Darth Vader were an original character, that would somehow make Star Wars deep.It's the most shallow series I can think of.QuoteWanting to rule galaxies =/= Following someone who wants to rule the galaxySimilar =/= Exactly the same.
Do you even know what deep means in this context?
It's not deep because it's not deep. Explain to me how, if Darth Vader were an original character, that would somehow make Star Wars deep.It's the most shallow series I can think of.
QuoteWanting to rule galaxies =/= Following someone who wants to rule the galaxySimilar =/= Exactly the same.
Oh that scene. I still don't understand what the fuck he was talking about. Was he just being a little bitch about spending his childhood on Tatooine? Quote from: Mr. Psychologist on April 11, 2016, 04:24:55 PM'I don't like sand it's coarse and it gets everywhere'
'I don't like sand it's coarse and it gets everywhere'
He was trying to hit on Padme. "I dislike sand. It's coarse and irritating and it gets everywhere." Then he follows up by saying something along the lines of her being the antithesis of sand.It's still really shitty, but more in a "homeboy lucky he's pretty" kind of way.
It's still really shitty
It's not just Vader you Mongoloid, it's the cast having their back stories being interwoven with that of the MC who may be just the generic cliche hero. The political background of the OT is a reference to the Nazi's and WWII, not only that but how timeless it is and can be understood by any generation and how it could be applied to the events in their life. Just the simple fact that you have take something at more than just face value in the movie shows that it's not shallow.
Except it's not even similar. It'd be similar if Vader wanted to "Rule" something, but he never did.
Quote from: Prime X on April 11, 2016, 08:15:08 PMIt's still really shittyL
How is that deep?
It's similar.
Quote from: Verbatim on April 11, 2016, 08:17:04 PMQuote from: Prime X on April 11, 2016, 08:15:08 PMIt's still really shittyLLike I said, it's more like "Anakin has no idea how to flirt without sounding like some Shakespeare knockoff" than anything. I like to think it's one of the com bits in George Lucas's Star Wars II: Attack of the Romcom.
Quote from: Solonoid X on April 11, 2016, 08:07:19 PMDo you even know what deep means in this context?I know exactly what "deep" means, but you people seem to be using it in a way outside of its definition, so feel free to explain to me precisely what you mean by "deep."If it's "emotionally evocative," or something to that effect, I will literally find you.
Quote from: Verbatim on April 11, 2016, 03:31:51 PMobjectivelyThis word has lost its meaning.
objectively
Quote from: Prime X on April 11, 2016, 08:20:04 PMQuote from: Verbatim on April 11, 2016, 08:17:04 PMQuote from: Prime X on April 11, 2016, 08:15:08 PMIt's still really shittyLLike I said, it's more like "Anakin has no idea how to flirt without sounding like some Shakespeare knockoff" than anything. I like to think it's one of the com bits in George Lucas's Star Wars II: Attack of the Romcom.He's a fucking teenager who's never been in love before. Of course he's awkward about it. That's what makes it so good, because you can relate to it. Everyone has said goofy shit to one of their crushes before.The only thing you can really argue to say that the line is shitty is that it has no place in a Star Wars movie, which, I don't think I need to explain why that's irrational.
Everyone has said goofy shit to one of their crushes before.
The political background of the OT is a reference to the Nazi's and WWII,
The OT wins strictly because the fat rebel pilot in A New Hope is named Porkins.
The fact that it requires you to think? I just told you how it was deep. The story is more than just what it appears to be.
Quote from: Ian on April 11, 2016, 08:14:03 PM The political background of the OT is a reference to the Nazi's and WWII,The heavy handed and blatant black and white symbolism is one of my biggest complaints about Lucas. Moral ambiguity and grey zones were why the EU exploded with such popularity in the 00's. Stories got much more interesting then.
I haven't, then again I don't really talk to them as much as I used to but I don't recall ever saying anything cringey like that to them. Quote from: Verbatim on April 11, 2016, 08:23:17 PMEveryone has said goofy shit to one of their crushes before.
Stimulating to and identifiable with the viewer.You know, something you can find deep, personal meaning in?
Calm yer britches there. I just said that I'm half-sure it was supposed to be bad. The comedy in the romcom storyline that took up way too much of the movie.
Quote from: Solonoid X on April 11, 2016, 08:23:41 PMStimulating to and identifiable with the viewer.You know, something you can find deep, personal meaning in?I detest this definition, because that means literally any movie can be deep.I just don't think it's the sort of word that you should just throw around, because it devalues it.But sure, if Star Wars has some kind of meaning to you, I can't take that away from you. But I don't qualify that as "deep."
Anything that makes you think is deep. All right.Literally everything requires you to think. Adam Sandler movies are deep, according to you.
"Makes you think." AND"More than what it appears on the surface." Quote from: Verbatim on April 11, 2016, 08:26:49 PMAnything that makes you think is deep. All right.Literally everything requires you to think. Adam Sandler movies are deep, according to you.
I hate popular things.
