One lie can ruin your trust forever, so yeah, lying's... pretty bad, mm'kay.
I am the King of the Moon
Quote from: True Turquoise on June 19, 2015, 09:01:49 PMI am the King of the MoonYou be the king and I'll be the princess. Spoiler oh wait that sounded dirty damn it to hell lmao
Quote from: Princess-Kitsune on June 19, 2015, 09:03:46 PMQuote from: True Turquoise on June 19, 2015, 09:01:49 PMI am the King of the MoonYou be the king and I'll be the princess. Spoiler oh wait that sounded dirty damn it to hell lmaoWell this is awkward
Why was this not in the Serious thread?
Quote from: Ingloriouswho98 on June 19, 2015, 08:04:28 PMI actually hang around people like this the most because they are the people who need love and acceptance the most I empathize with them because I used to be one myselfMaybe I still am I can't tellBut I'm working on it I think that the further you push them away, the more damaged they getI think that being there for them and putting up with the annoyance so you can help them is truly being a friendI used to be like that too when I was your age (oh my god it makes me sound old as hell sorry) I just became jaded and sick of all of the deceit and lies. The drama became all consuming and I lost myself to taking care of the well being of others before my own health. Now don't get me wrong. I want to become a social worker in order to call the lies and help children in need. Luckily I am not completely jaded, and I hope you never do who.
I actually hang around people like this the most because they are the people who need love and acceptance the most I empathize with them because I used to be one myselfMaybe I still am I can't tellBut I'm working on it I think that the further you push them away, the more damaged they getI think that being there for them and putting up with the annoyance so you can help them is truly being a friend
Quote from: Princess-Kitsune on June 19, 2015, 08:09:05 PMQuote from: Ingloriouswho98 on June 19, 2015, 08:04:28 PMI actually hang around people like this the most because they are the people who need love and acceptance the most I empathize with them because I used to be one myselfMaybe I still am I can't tellBut I'm working on it I think that the further you push them away, the more damaged they getI think that being there for them and putting up with the annoyance so you can help them is truly being a friendI used to be like that too when I was your age (oh my god it makes me sound old as hell sorry) I just became jaded and sick of all of the deceit and lies. The drama became all consuming and I lost myself to taking care of the well being of others before my own health. Now don't get me wrong. I want to become a social worker in order to call the lies and help children in need. Luckily I am not completely jaded, and I hope you never do who.Gah stop using your age to hold yourself over me You're not even that old But still you're a wonderful human bean
Quote from: Ingloriouswho98 on June 19, 2015, 10:04:48 PMQuote from: Princess-Kitsune on June 19, 2015, 08:09:05 PMQuote from: Ingloriouswho98 on June 19, 2015, 08:04:28 PMI actually hang around people like this the most because they are the people who need love and acceptance the most I empathize with them because I used to be one myselfMaybe I still am I can't tellBut I'm working on it I think that the further you push them away, the more damaged they getI think that being there for them and putting up with the annoyance so you can help them is truly being a friendI used to be like that too when I was your age (oh my god it makes me sound old as hell sorry) I just became jaded and sick of all of the deceit and lies. The drama became all consuming and I lost myself to taking care of the well being of others before my own health. Now don't get me wrong. I want to become a social worker in order to call the lies and help children in need. Luckily I am not completely jaded, and I hope you never do who.Gah stop using your age to hold yourself over me You're not even that old But still you're a wonderful human beanI wasn't holding it over your head. I wish I was still a teenager... no bills, no worries, true freedom... ::sigh::I had a good run...
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on June 19, 2015, 07:21:48 PMSpoilerOne thing that I learned a little while ago, courtesy of a certain psychologist, is that when you catch someone telling a lie it's not always the best option to call out the lie. What that usually leads to is the situation described, doubling down and further and further levels of deceit until the whole thing comes crashing down.If someone lies about something inconsequential, then generally you should let it slide. Everyone lies, every single day. There is no exception because deception is a core part of humanity, asserting otherwise is a lie and thus proves itself wrong. People lie to spare feelings, to avoid embarrassment or out of politeness. This is all fine. When people lie about things that truly matter, that's when it becomes more serious and the added emotions join into the party.If someone lies about having an affair, causing a car crash or whatever then it is acceptable to lynch them for it. What I would recommend is picking your battles with it, liecatching is good and all but it's not always worth it no matter how repulsive lying is to you.People who are caught lying are either unskilled or unlucky, possibly malicious too but again it's context dependant. I try not to judge, but I can't say I view lying for personal gain too fondly even in the best of circumstances.It is very very hard for me to lie. If anything I'd need someone to lie for me if needed.
SpoilerOne thing that I learned a little while ago, courtesy of a certain psychologist, is that when you catch someone telling a lie it's not always the best option to call out the lie. What that usually leads to is the situation described, doubling down and further and further levels of deceit until the whole thing comes crashing down.If someone lies about something inconsequential, then generally you should let it slide. Everyone lies, every single day. There is no exception because deception is a core part of humanity, asserting otherwise is a lie and thus proves itself wrong. People lie to spare feelings, to avoid embarrassment or out of politeness. This is all fine. When people lie about things that truly matter, that's when it becomes more serious and the added emotions join into the party.If someone lies about having an affair, causing a car crash or whatever then it is acceptable to lynch them for it. What I would recommend is picking your battles with it, liecatching is good and all but it's not always worth it no matter how repulsive lying is to you.People who are caught lying are either unskilled or unlucky, possibly malicious too but again it's context dependant. I try not to judge, but I can't say I view lying for personal gain too fondly even in the best of circumstances.
Quote from: Mr Psychologist on June 19, 2015, 07:21:48 PMSpoilerOne thing that I learned a little while ago, courtesy of a certain psychologist, is that when you catch someone telling a lie it's not always the best option to call out the lie. What that usually leads to is the situation described, doubling down and further and further levels of deceit until the whole thing comes crashing down.If someone lies about something inconsequential, then generally you should let it slide. Everyone lies, every single day. There is no exception because deception is a core part of humanity, asserting otherwise is a lie and thus proves itself wrong. People lie to spare feelings, to avoid embarrassment or out of politeness. This is all fine. When people lie about things that truly matter, that's when it becomes more serious and the added emotions join into the party.If someone lies about having an affair, causing a car crash or whatever then it is acceptable to lynch them for it. What I would recommend is picking your battles with it, liecatching is good and all but it's not always worth it no matter how repulsive lying is to you.People who are caught lying are either unskilled or unlucky, possibly malicious too but again it's context dependent. I try not to judge, but I can't say I view lying for personal gain too fondly even in the best of circumstances.Psy it's like you read into my soul. It's so hard to neglect the obvious lies in life... I work in retail and it's so obvious when someone is lying and trying to gain something from it, and all I want to do is scream at them to stop lying, but then I remember that I would lose my job, so I just give them what they want to a reasonable degree. Not judging is the psychologist's code. We have to be unbiased and examine behavior for all possible aspects. The more schooling I do for my psychology degree the more I realize how selfish and yet self-loathing humans can be.
SpoilerOne thing that I learned a little while ago, courtesy of a certain psychologist, is that when you catch someone telling a lie it's not always the best option to call out the lie. What that usually leads to is the situation described, doubling down and further and further levels of deceit until the whole thing comes crashing down.If someone lies about something inconsequential, then generally you should let it slide. Everyone lies, every single day. There is no exception because deception is a core part of humanity, asserting otherwise is a lie and thus proves itself wrong. People lie to spare feelings, to avoid embarrassment or out of politeness. This is all fine. When people lie about things that truly matter, that's when it becomes more serious and the added emotions join into the party.If someone lies about having an affair, causing a car crash or whatever then it is acceptable to lynch them for it. What I would recommend is picking your battles with it, liecatching is good and all but it's not always worth it no matter how repulsive lying is to you.People who are caught lying are either unskilled or unlucky, possibly malicious too but again it's context dependent. I try not to judge, but I can't say I view lying for personal gain too fondly even in the best of circumstances.
Quote from: Princess-Kitsune on June 19, 2015, 10:08:04 PMQuote from: Ingloriouswho98 on June 19, 2015, 10:04:48 PMQuote from: Princess-Kitsune on June 19, 2015, 08:09:05 PMQuote from: Ingloriouswho98 on June 19, 2015, 08:04:28 PMI actually hang around people like this the most because they are the people who need love and acceptance the most I empathize with them because I used to be one myselfMaybe I still am I can't tellBut I'm working on it I think that the further you push them away, the more damaged they getI think that being there for them and putting up with the annoyance so you can help them is truly being a friendI used to be like that too when I was your age (oh my god it makes me sound old as hell sorry) I just became jaded and sick of all of the deceit and lies. The drama became all consuming and I lost myself to taking care of the well being of others before my own health. Now don't get me wrong. I want to become a social worker in order to call the lies and help children in need. Luckily I am not completely jaded, and I hope you never do who.Gah stop using your age to hold yourself over me You're not even that old But still you're a wonderful human beanI wasn't holding it over your head. I wish I was still a teenager... no bills, no worries, true freedom... ::sigh::I had a good run...Gotcha a present
Quote from: Princess-Kitsune on June 19, 2015, 08:05:24 PMQuote from: Mr Psychologist on June 19, 2015, 07:21:48 PMSpoilerOne thing that I learned a little while ago, courtesy of a certain psychologist, is that when you catch someone telling a lie it's not always the best option to call out the lie. What that usually leads to is the situation described, doubling down and further and further levels of deceit until the whole thing comes crashing down.If someone lies about something inconsequential, then generally you should let it slide. Everyone lies, every single day. There is no exception because deception is a core part of humanity, asserting otherwise is a lie and thus proves itself wrong. People lie to spare feelings, to avoid embarrassment or out of politeness. This is all fine. When people lie about things that truly matter, that's when it becomes more serious and the added emotions join into the party.If someone lies about having an affair, causing a car crash or whatever then it is acceptable to lynch them for it. What I would recommend is picking your battles with it, liecatching is good and all but it's not always worth it no matter how repulsive lying is to you.People who are caught lying are either unskilled or unlucky, possibly malicious too but again it's context dependent. I try not to judge, but I can't say I view lying for personal gain too fondly even in the best of circumstances.Psy it's like you read into my soul. It's so hard to neglect the obvious lies in life... I work in retail and it's so obvious when someone is lying and trying to gain something from it, and all I want to do is scream at them to stop lying, but then I remember that I would lose my job, so I just give them what they want to a reasonable degree. Not judging is the psychologist's code. We have to be unbiased and examine behavior for all possible aspects. The more schooling I do for my psychology degree the more I realize how selfish and yet self-loathing humans can be. Well I did recently get my duckling award in mind reading <_<SpoilerIndeed, it can be quite annoying to deal with lies day in day out but the best way to deal with them if you see through the lie is usually to just find a counter to it before they've had a chance to pull some other shit. It's a bit hard to give an example for because it requires thinking on your feet in the moment but if you find a way to outmanoeuvre the lie so they don't get what they are after via deceit then that's the best way to disrupt it without losing your job <.<Yup, or as a more workable one don't let your judgement affect how you help them. Nobody is a saint without prejudices of some kind, it's more about keeping them in check and seeing past the initial 'I don't like this person' to help them with their problem anyway. I think it does get easier over time to look past any initial 'Sweet jesus you are a piece of work' reactions, I kind of had baptism by fire with some of the earliest people I was helping out (Informally of course, got another 6-7 years before that's being done professionally >_>) and some of the things I've heard are enough to turn your stomach but again, after the initial 'Oh lawdy' reaction you then help them regardless and it works out for the best >_>
Quote from: SuperIrish on June 19, 2015, 08:25:33 PMNot sure I know anybody that consistently lies. That, or I'm a tad too trustworthy.Ah well, hasn't hurt me nor anyone else as far as I can tell.You seem pretty genuine from what I can tell.
Not sure I know anybody that consistently lies. That, or I'm a tad too trustworthy.Ah well, hasn't hurt me nor anyone else as far as I can tell.
Quote from: Princess-Kitsune on June 19, 2015, 08:52:18 PMQuote from: SuperIrish on June 19, 2015, 08:25:33 PMNot sure I know anybody that consistently lies. That, or I'm a tad too trustworthy.Ah well, hasn't hurt me nor anyone else as far as I can tell.You seem pretty genuine from what I can tell.Thanks.Don't get me wrong; I'll withold information if it makes life a tad easier than blurting out the truth, but I rarely lie.
I dislike asshole busybodies. I swear there are people on this site who are stalking me
I swear there are people on this site who are stalking me
Quote from: Elegiac on June 20, 2015, 09:41:31 AMI dislike asshole busybodies. I swear there are people on this site who are stalking meHaaaaaaYeah we don't use the overseer to watch all of your posts, that would be creepy.
I'm a girl irl and my name is Cindy.
christ this place is packed with assholes
I Hate Liars.
