If you're caught lying don't try to fucking lie your way out of it.
QuoteIf you're caught lying don't try to fucking lie your way out of it.dealing with a friend like this
SpoilerOne thing that I learned a little while ago, courtesy of a certain psychologist, is that when you catch someone telling a lie it's not always the best option to call out the lie. What that usually leads to is the situation described, doubling down and further and further levels of deceit until the whole thing comes crashing down.If someone lies about something inconsequential, then generally you should let it slide. Everyone lies, every single day. There is no exception because deception is a core part of humanity, asserting otherwise is a lie and thus proves itself wrong. People lie to spare feelings, to avoid embarrassment or out of politeness. This is all fine. When people lie about things that truly matter, that's when it becomes more serious and the added emotions join into the party.If someone lies about having an affair, causing a car crash or whatever then it is acceptable to lynch them for it. What I would recommend is picking your battles with it, liecatching is good and all but it's not always worth it no matter how repulsive lying is to you.People who are caught lying are either unskilled or unlucky, possibly malicious too but again it's context dependant. I try not to judge, but I can't say I view lying for personal gain too fondly even in the best of circumstances.
Quote from: ahimsa on June 19, 2015, 05:25:41 PMQuoteIf you're caught lying don't try to fucking lie your way out of it.dealing with a friend like thisIt's always the hardest when it's your friend especially if they're a close friend. My best friend growing up became a compulsive liar to hide her whereabouts because she was into hard drugs... I tried my best to get past the lies and get her help, but there's only so much you can do for someone who consistently lies not only to you but to their self. Drugs are bad, mmmk?
i agree with you. i don't care whether someone legit is better than me or in a worse place than me; all that matters to me is who they are. i tend to believe things that i'm told very easily, because i don't really have a reason (on the internet) not to. but when they're caught lying (which they usually are eventually) and are just unable to own up to it, it's just shameful. so no, i don't think you're being too harsh.
Quote from: Five on June 19, 2015, 05:30:12 PMi agree with you. i don't care whether someone legit is better than me or in a worse place than me; all that matters to me is who they are. i tend to believe things that i'm told very easily, because i don't really have a reason (on the internet) not to. but when they're caught lying (which they usually are eventually) and are just unable to own up to it, it's just shameful. so no, i don't think you're being too harsh.I know not everyone is going to be truthful not all the time, but it's just hard when you're trying to get through to someone and they just prove they are just a waste of time and effort. I don't wanna come off as if I think of myself superior (because despite my username I really don't) but I'm always honest about my life and my personality when asked. There's no point in pretending to be someone I'm not because if I did I would eventually be found out and it's not worth risking friendships. That's just me though some people just don't give a fuck about others and look out for numero uno and that' fine too as long as you're honest. Be a troll, but be an honest troll. lmao that made no sense.
SpoilerOne thing that I learned a little while ago, courtesy of a certain psychologist, is that when you catch someone telling a lie it's not always the best option to call out the lie. What that usually leads to is the situation described, doubling down and further and further levels of deceit until the whole thing comes crashing down.If someone lies about something inconsequential, then generally you should let it slide. Everyone lies, every single day. There is no exception because deception is a core part of humanity, asserting otherwise is a lie and thus proves itself wrong. People lie to spare feelings, to avoid embarrassment or out of politeness. This is all fine. When people lie about things that truly matter, that's when it becomes more serious and the added emotions join into the party.If someone lies about having an affair, causing a car crash or whatever then it is acceptable to lynch them for it. What I would recommend is picking your battles with it, liecatching is good and all but it's not always worth it no matter how repulsive lying is to you.People who are caught lying are either unskilled or unlucky, possibly malicious too but again it's context dependent. I try not to judge, but I can't say I view lying for personal gain too fondly even in the best of circumstances.
Quote from: Princess-Kitsune on June 19, 2015, 08:00:44 PMQuote from: Five on June 19, 2015, 05:30:12 PMi agree with you. i don't care whether someone legit is better than me or in a worse place than me; all that matters to me is who they are. i tend to believe things that i'm told very easily, because i don't really have a reason (on the internet) not to. but when they're caught lying (which they usually are eventually) and are just unable to own up to it, it's just shameful. so no, i don't think you're being too harsh.I know not everyone is going to be truthful not all the time, but it's just hard when you're trying to get through to someone and they just prove they are just a waste of time and effort. I don't wanna come off as if I think of myself superior (because despite my username I really don't) but I'm always honest about my life and my personality when asked. There's no point in pretending to be someone I'm not because if I did I would eventually be found out and it's not worth risking friendships. That's just me though some people just don't give a fuck about others and look out for numero uno and that' fine too as long as you're honest. Be a troll, but be an honest troll. lmao that made no sense.aye, i know what you mean. it's not possible to make actual connections if you're not honest about who you are. though, if you're not looking to make connections then there's no real downside to dishonesty, IMO.
Quote from: ahimsa on June 19, 2015, 05:25:41 PMQuoteIf you're caught lying don't try to fucking lie your way out of it.dealing with a friend like thistried my best to get past the lies and get her help, but there's only so much you can do for someone who consistently lies not only to you but to their self.
I actually hang around people like this the most because they are the people who need love and acceptance the most I empathize with them because I used to be one myselfMaybe I still am I can't tellBut I'm working on it I think that the further you push them away, the more damaged they getI think that being there for them and putting up with the annoyance so you can help them is truly being a friend
Quote from: Princess-Kitsune on June 19, 2015, 07:54:43 PMQuote from: ahimsa on June 19, 2015, 05:25:41 PMQuoteIf you're caught lying don't try to fucking lie your way out of it.dealing with a friend like thistried my best to get past the lies and get her help, but there's only so much you can do for someone who consistently lies not only to you but to their self.aww shit that is all too real right now
Not sure I know anybody that consistently lies. That, or I'm a tad too trustworthy.Ah well, hasn't hurt me nor anyone else as far as I can tell.
I thought you said you hated Lars...lol.Anyway, I do agree but sometimes the truth is too much to bear, sometimes the truth hurts too much. Unless you're talking about Congressional Style Lying (Compulsive Liars).
Quote from: Korra Valentine on June 19, 2015, 08:55:23 PMI thought you said you hated Lars...lol.Anyway, I do agree but sometimes the truth is too much to bear, sometimes the truth hurts too much. Unless you're talking about Congressional Style Lying (Compulsive Liars).No Lars is cool. Kind of a dick but meh. Spoiler
I Hate Liars.
