Hey religious people, try on this theory for size

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PSU is just a troll.


 
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Oh they are taught?

They who taught the first person about God?

God exists, just stop trying atheists

The first person who talked about (the Christian) God came up with it. Duh. Based it on other shit he/she had heard and took was worked and got rid of what didn't. The story of Jesus Christ isn't exactly original.

Even as a religious person, you must admit that religion in itself was created as a means to control people.

This is some shit-tier bait, PSU. I know you're smarter than this.


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PSU is just a troll.

Oh since I'm religious, I'm a troll? Fuck outta here bro.


 
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Because arguing and telling people how wrong they are on a completely subjective subject is what Jesus would have wanted.


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Oh they are taught?

They who taught the first person about God?

God exists, just stop trying atheists

The first person who talked about (the Christian) God came up with it. Duh. Based it on other shit he/she had heard and took was worked and got rid of what didn't. The story of Jesus Christ isn't exactly original.

Even as a religious person, you must admit that religion in itself was created as a means to control people.

This is some shit-tier bait, PSU. I know you're smarter than this.

Yeah not bait at all but alright dude.

No religion was sent by God. Not a means to control people.


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Oh they are taught?

They who taught the first person about God?

God exists, just stop trying atheists
you mean yahweh? your good friend yahweh was a legenday figure (a warrior, as i understand it) in the semitic tradition and was eventually raised to the status of god as semitic rulers sought fit to consolidate their power. you know, "divine right of kings" sort of thing.


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PSU is just a troll.

Oh since I'm religious, I'm a troll? Fuck outta here bro.
You really have trouble deciphering the meaning behind statements, don't you.


 
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Oh they are taught?

They who taught the first person about God?

God exists, just stop trying atheists

The first person who talked about (the Christian) God came up with it. Duh. Based it on other shit he/she had heard and took was worked and got rid of what didn't. The story of Jesus Christ isn't exactly original.

Even as a religious person, you must admit that religion in itself was created as a means to control people.

This is some shit-tier bait, PSU. I know you're smarter than this.

Yeah not bait at all but alright dude.

That's even more embarrassing for you. You actually believe this shit, lmao. I still don't believe you, though. This is too obvious to not be bait.

I think you're only religious because the majority of the scientific (intelligence) community isn't. And that makes you feel cool or special.

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No religion was sent by God. Not a means to control people.
That isn't what I said. If you believe in the Christian god, then by extension, you disbelieve in literally all other god's existence.

Therefore, you treat them as any atheist would treat yours. And you would realise that those religions were attempt to control the public.


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"The majority of the scientific community isn't"

>graduated with a minor in astrophysics

Makes sense bro.

If anything trying to be atheist is the "cool and hip" thing to do.

Oh you know so much about my religion! What religion exactly am I tho?


 
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"The majority of the scientific community isn't"

>graduated with a minor in astrophysics
What does that have to do with anything? The majority of the scientific community is still secular.

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Makes sense bro.
It certainly does.

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If anything trying to be atheist is the "cool and hip" thing to do.
Not on the internet, or in the scientific community, where, like I said, secular ideologies are the majority.

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Oh you know so much about my religion! What religion exactly am I tho?
I don't care. I was using Christianity as an example, and that's what I assumed you were, considering you're a near-comic-book-level stereotype of your average american.


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That isn't what I said. If you believe in the Christian god, then by extension, you disbelieve in literally all other god's existence.

Therefore, you treat them as any atheist would treat yours. And you would realise that those religions were attempt to control the public.
this actually isnt true. in the judeo-christian religion, yahweh is not the only god-indeed, yahweh was a legendary warrior who might have been conflated with el and eventually elevated to the position of chief god in isreal/judah. the semitic pantheon is sprawling. the whole monotheism thing was just sped along by the likes of zoroastrianism.

edit: yahweh may actually have been a storm god, rather than another name for el, but thats kind of a non-issue in this context
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That isn't what I said. If you believe in the Christian god, then by extension, you disbelieve in literally all other god's existence.

Therefore, you treat them as any atheist would treat yours. And you would realise that those religions were attempt to control the public.
this actually isnt true. in the judeo-christian religion, yahweh is not the only god-indeed, yahweh was a legendary warrior who might have been conflated with el and eventually elevated to the position of chief god in isreal/judah. the semitic pantheon is sprawling. the whole monotheism thing was just sped along by the likes of zoroastrianism.

Of course, the Old Testament is full of polytheistic concepts that were "weeded" out in the New Testament (see, Job). I'm just trying to keep it simple for PSU's sake.

Most Christians only believe their god to be real, and treat all other gods as any atheist would. That was my point.
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I'm a comic book stereotype of an American?

Really not true at all but ok kid


 
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I'm a comic book stereotype of an American?

Really not true at all but ok kid

Based on my experience with you, you don't have an original bone in your body.

But good job ignoring all of my arguments.


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Stop flaming each other. Any Scientist worth listening to will tell you that we simply don't have the knowledge on the creation of our Universe, and what might lie outside it, to definitively prove/disprove the existence of a deity. Same with what happens to our consciousness after (complete) brain death. As that's kind of a point of no return after which we wouldn't be able to communicate with the living world directly, there's no data to be gathered on the subject.

Any form of argument that, at this point in time, tries to definitively state (for or against) the existence of a Deity that created our universe, is conjecture that should be disregarded until proof beyond reasonable doubt is shown.


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I'm a comic book stereotype of an American?

Really not true at all but ok kid

Based on my experience with you, you don't have an original bone in your body.

But good job ignoring all of my arguments.

Your arguments are all terrible.

Anyways, stereotype of an American. A fat, Texan who is eating McDonald's that loves guns.

All I do is love guns.


 
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I'm a comic book stereotype of an American?

Really not true at all but ok kid

Based on my experience with you, you don't have an original bone in your body.

But good job ignoring all of my arguments.

Your arguments are all terrible.

Anyways, stereotype of an American. A fat, Texan who is eating McDonald's that loves guns.

All I do is love guns.

That isn't how I see it. At all.

Religion. Football. Guns. You apply to all of those.

But we're getting off topic, and you've already admitted that I won the argument.


 
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Stop flaming each other. Any Scientist worth listening to will tell you that we simply don't have the knowledge on the creation of our Universe, and what might lie outside it, to definitively prove/disprove the existence of a deity. Same with what happens to our consciousness after (complete) brain death. As that's kind of a point of no return after which we wouldn't be able to communicate with the living world directly, there's no data to be gathered on the subject.

Any form of argument that, at this point in time, tries to definitively state (for or against) the existence of a Deity that created our universe, is conjecture that should be disregarded until proof beyond reasonable doubt is shown.

In reference to me, I've already stated that I'm only playing devil's advocate.

And I haven't once said that god doesn't exists.


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You haven't won anything in your entire life.

Yep, football. I love it.
Religion. Yes I'm religious.
Guns. I'm not a gun fanatic, but yes I own a few.

I guess I'm your average American. Although I don't see how that's a bad thing.


 
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You haven't won anything in your entire life.
Again. False.
You should really watch out for those baseless accusations.

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I guess I'm your average American. Although I don't see how that's a bad thing.
I never said it was a bad thing. I simply used it as justification for assuming you were Christian.


 
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Stop flaming each other. Any Scientist worth listening to will tell you that we simply don't have the knowledge on the creation of our Universe, and what might lie outside it, to definitively prove/disprove the existence of a deity. Same with what happens to our consciousness after (complete) brain death. As that's kind of a point of no return after which we wouldn't be able to communicate with the living world directly, there's no data to be gathered on the subject.

Any form of argument that, at this point in time, tries to definitively state (for or against) the existence of a Deity that created our universe, is conjecture that should be disregarded until proof beyond reasonable doubt is shown.
Very reasonable.


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It's kind of funny how many people (including religious ones) who believe that Christianity says that you go to heaven directly when you die. At least from what I can recall from religion class, no one will go to heaven until Judgement Day. Until then they're just dead, without experiencing anything.
that's pretty wishful thinking. I hope your wishing pays off for you.
I didn't say I wished for anything. I'm an atheist, I just remarked on a common misunderstanding of Christianity.


 
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You know there's a little gland in the center of your head that produces a very illegal and powerful psychedelic?

That little gland becomes active when we sleep and is part-wise responsible for our dreams. But, when our body undergoes the process of shutting down, that little gland goes into complete overdrive and keeps neural activity going several minutes after all bodily functions have stopped.

It floods our brains with that drug, which, most notably, is known by all users of it to produce time dilation. So, in our dying stages, in one last hurrah our brain goes on an eternally long ass drug trip.

I don't know about you, but technically you could say that you're wrong about the rot in the hole statement. That of course, comes after we're officially dead.

But I find it funny that we'd develop such a mechanism concerning death.


 
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You know there's a little gland in the center of your head that produces a very illegal and powerful psychedelic?

That little gland becomes active when we sleep and is part-wise responsible for our dreams. But, when our body undergoes the process of shutting down, that little gland goes into complete overdrive and keeps neural activity going several minutes after all bodily functions have stopped.

It floods our brains with that drug, which, most notably, is known by all users of it to produce time dilation. So, in our dying stages, in one last hurrah our brain goes on an eternally long ass drug trip.

I don't know about you, but technically you could say that you're wrong about the rot in the hole statement. That of course, comes after we're officially dead.

But I find it funny that we'd develop such a mechanism concerning death.
DMT

https://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt.shtml


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GOD is real and I can prove it


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DMT would be a drug I'd try. Sounds really spiritual.


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