i know i'll never become one of those freak gym rats because i've sworn to keep my hobby all-natural. no hormones, no roids, not even creatine. naturally sculpting my body into something beautiful is the end goal, and is something i'll be able to maintain for the rest of my life.
Does Jive use roids? His physique isn't unattainable through natural bodybuilding (I haven't seen many pictures of him, but from what I can see anyway).
And why are you against Creatine? Are you against whey, too? I don't use either (Well, I use to use Whey, but not anymore since my dining plan at my campus = Infinite food), but creatine isn't "Unnatural" at all, it's just a preworkout.
No roids(yet) though I have been considering it. That's the difference that'll take me to the next level
Huge jump though and im not sure if thats where i wanna take my life ya know?