Loyalty doesn't mean just accepting anything they do
That's fuckin dumb as fuck fuck off
the one true God is Doctor Doom and we should all be worshiping him.
I'd expect a friend to tell me when I'm being a fucking idiot and suggest a better course of action.
And i think a lot of people (here in particular) have never actually felt a real friendship like that... you may share similar interests or backgrounds but you don't have the camaraderie that some of the "bad people" of the world have. When it comes down to it, those people won't be there for you.
If a friend of mine cheated on his wife, I'd tell her and hope his life is ruined
Quote from: Heaven 17 on September 18, 2016, 04:18:59 PMAnd i think a lot of people (here in particular) have never actually felt a real friendship like that... you may share similar interests or backgrounds but you don't have the camaraderie that some of the "bad people" of the world have. When it comes down to it, those people won't be there for you.I do, luckily. I've had my best friend since 7th grade and we've been through so much shit, lol. It's always amazing when you have someone like that.
Quote from: N i g g e r s on September 18, 2016, 04:19:05 PMLoyalty doesn't mean just accepting anything they doyeah, it kinda does. if you don't want to define friendship using the word loyalty, than don't -- but i do, and i think have someone who's loyal to you is better than having a friend.
Exactly.
Quote from: Jim on September 18, 2016, 04:21:05 PMIf a friend of mine cheated on his wife, I'd tell her and hope his life is ruinedThen he's not a true friend.
So if you met someone who was respectable but then 1O years later turned into a junkie rapist, you would still be loyal to them for some arbitrary honor code?
That's a yes-man, not a friend.
Quote from: SecondClass on September 18, 2016, 04:12:03 PMExactly.Yeah, but what if you just want your friend to know that GMOs aren't inherently evil but he refuses to see the light?(hypothetical situation)
Quote from: N i g g e r s on September 18, 2016, 04:25:25 PMSo if you met someone who was respectable but then 1O years later turned into a junkie rapist, you would still be loyal to them for some arbitrary honor code?really would depend on the level of friendship that was established before the 10 year absence. but if i considered them a good friend, probably. my good friends are my family and you don't disown family, no matter what.
Quote from: Heaven 17 on September 18, 2016, 04:26:54 PMQuote from: N i g g e r s on September 18, 2016, 04:25:25 PMSo if you met someone who was respectable but then 1O years later turned into a junkie rapist, you would still be loyal to them for some arbitrary honor code?really would depend on the level of friendship that was established before the 10 year absence. but if i considered them a good friend, probably. my good friends are my family and you don't disown family, no matter what.Why notActions from way back don't define you now People change You would be dragging yourself down just for memories
Quote from: N i g g e r s on September 18, 2016, 04:29:58 PMQuote from: Heaven 17 on September 18, 2016, 04:26:54 PMQuote from: N i g g e r s on September 18, 2016, 04:25:25 PMSo if you met someone who was respectable but then 1O years later turned into a junkie rapist, you would still be loyal to them for some arbitrary honor code?really would depend on the level of friendship that was established before the 10 year absence. but if i considered them a good friend, probably. my good friends are my family and you don't disown family, no matter what.Why notActions from way back don't define you now People change You would be dragging yourself down just for memoriesbecause the things you went through together transcend any values you have.if for nothing else, it's blackmail -- you don't turn against your friends because they have dirty info on you that you don't want released. i don't like to think of that, but it's definitely a part of it. you don't necessarily even need to continue being active friends with this person if what they do turns you off from them so much.
i've been thinking a bit about friendship lately.
