how do i undo going to college

October 19, 2018, 07:43:13 PM

why is luciana a mod here if she admits to "just poking in"

im on here 24/7 even at work

October 19, 2018, 07:52:19 PM

sorry wrong threa

Desty · October 19, 2018, 10:58:18 PM

There's no need for mods in this place anymore. You're just after the position 'cause you want the title

Ingy · October 20, 2018, 12:34:05 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on October 19, 2018, 07:02:51 PM

"who cares about STEM, you should study whatever you want if it's your passion, what good is a degree if it's just going to make you miserable"

"wtf why would you choose to study something so worthless? you should switch to STEM so you'll actually make some money in your life one day idiot"

everyone on this planet can just eat shit and die honestly

Those are two different people

The follow your dreams crowd can eat shit

Verbatim · October 20, 2018, 12:36:36 AM

Quote from: Rescue on October 20, 2018, 12:34:05 AM

Those are usually two different people

The follow your dreams crowd are a bunch of shit eaters

they ALL are

the only intelligent advice anyone has ever given me regarding college is "don't go"

except nobody has ever told me that

challengerX · October 20, 2018, 12:48:50 AM

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BaconShelf · October 20, 2018, 05:21:00 AM

How does repaying your loans work in the US? Over here you only a pay a little bit each year if you earn more than about £22k and if you haven't done it in 30 years it gets wiped and you don't need to worry about it.

Dietrich Six · October 20, 2018, 07:23:41 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on October 19, 2018, 07:02:51 PM

"who cares about STEM, you should study whatever you want if it's your passion, what good is a degree if it's just going to make you miserable"

"wtf why would you choose to study something so worthless? you should switch to STEM so you'll actually make some money in your life one day idiot"

everyone on this planet can just eat shit and die honestly

The stem meme strikes again

Verbatim · October 20, 2018, 09:43:50 AM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on October 20, 2018, 07:23:41 AM

The stem meme strikes again

This doesn't help

Dietrich Six · October 20, 2018, 10:32:28 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on October 20, 2018, 09:43:50 AM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on October 20, 2018, 07:23:41 AM
The stem meme strikes again
This doesn't help

STEM is not a guarantee of employment. Teach English verb.

Super Irish · October 20, 2018, 10:40:44 AM

You can't, you're fucked.

So find what you can do to dig yourself out of that position.

Same boat here, took a bachelor's in a saturated market coming out of an economic collapse ("graduate" positions asking for Masters or 2-5 years experience, have to be a silver-keyboarded devil to write why you wanted to work with Generic Company A since you were a child... etc...), though fortunately all I need to dig myself out is a driver's license.

If what you need is not attainable and you are truly stuck, well... don't jump is the best advice there. I doubt it's that bad considering you are intelligent. You'll figure a way out.

maverick · October 20, 2018, 11:20:15 AM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on October 20, 2018, 10:32:28 AM

STEM is not a guarantee of employment. Teach English verb.

Lol people believe it is?

Verbatim · October 20, 2018, 11:22:52 AM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on October 20, 2018, 10:32:28 AM

Quote from: Verbatim on October 20, 2018, 09:43:50 AM
Quote from: Dietrich Six on October 20, 2018, 07:23:41 AM
The stem meme strikes again
This doesn't help
STEM is not a guarantee of employment. Teach English verb.

absolutely no interest

Ingy · October 20, 2018, 12:50:50 PM

Quote from: Loaf's mother on October 20, 2018, 11:22:52 AM

Quote from: Dietrich Six on October 20, 2018, 10:32:28 AM
Quote from: Verbatim on October 20, 2018, 09:43:50 AM
Quote from: Dietrich Six on October 20, 2018, 07:23:41 AM
The stem meme strikes again
This doesn't help
STEM is not a guarantee of employment. Teach English verb.
absolutely no interest

What are you interested in

Verbatim · October 20, 2018, 01:32:46 PM

Quote from: Rescue on October 20, 2018, 12:50:50 PM

What are you interested in

writing, nothing else

journalism is out of the question, i don't want to work for anyone and i don't want deadlines

ideally i'd be a novelist writing for the sake of the art itself, not to get money—but i'd have a patreon or something, so if i were to actually manage to build some sort of following, people could support me that way if they're interested

that's the dream, but i'm not in a position right now where that's the easiest thing in the world to just do

Ingy · October 20, 2018, 02:00:59 PM

Quote from: Loaf's mother on October 20, 2018, 01:32:46 PM

Quote from: Rescue on October 20, 2018, 12:50:50 PM
What are you interested in
writing, nothing else

journalism is out of the question, i don't want to work for anyone and i don't want deadlines

ideally i'd be a novelist writing for the sake of the art itself, not to get money—but i'd have a patreon or something, so if i were to actually manage to build some sort of following, people could support me that way if they're interested

that's the dream, but i'm not in a position right now where that's the easiest thing in the world to just do

Aren't you willing to work for someone else to get a footing in the field?
I know some friends that worked at a newspaper before a publisher noticed them and picked them up
Although I don't think that's the case for a majority of writers

Verbatim · October 20, 2018, 02:15:18 PM

Quote from: Rescue on October 20, 2018, 02:00:59 PM

Aren't you willing to work for someone else to get a footing in the field?

No

Ingy · October 20, 2018, 02:19:02 PM

Quote from: Loaf's mother on October 20, 2018, 02:15:18 PM

Quote from: Rescue on October 20, 2018, 02:00:59 PM
Aren't you willing to work for someone else to get a footing in the field?
No

challengerX · October 20, 2018, 02:55:27 PM

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Verbatim · October 20, 2018, 02:58:43 PM

Quote from: challengerX on October 20, 2018, 02:55:27 PM

Quote from: Loaf's mother on October 20, 2018, 01:32:46 PM
Quote from: Rescue on October 20, 2018, 12:50:50 PM
What are you interested in
writing, nothing else

journalism is out of the question, i don't want to work for anyone and i don't want deadlines

ideally i'd be a novelist writing for the sake of the art itself, not to get money—but i'd have a patreon or something, so if i were to actually manage to build some sort of following, people could support me that way if they're interested

that's the dream, but i'm not in a position right now where that's the easiest thing in the world to just do
What exactly is the difference between getting paid to write by an employer or selling a book, and having a patreon?

i get to work at my own pace

challengerX · October 20, 2018, 03:16:33 PM

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Ingy · October 20, 2018, 03:30:44 PM

Except people aren't going to pledge to patreons that churn out one chapter a year
People are still paying for a product and you're still going to have deadlines even if they're softer
You might just be suffering from massive dissonance

Verbatim · October 20, 2018, 03:32:13 PM

Quote from: Rescue on October 20, 2018, 03:30:44 PM

Except people aren't going to pledge to patreons that churn out one chapter a year

you would be surprised

Flee · October 20, 2018, 06:54:15 PM

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Elai · October 20, 2018, 06:57:50 PM

Quote from: Rescue on October 20, 2018, 03:30:44 PM

Except people aren't going to pledge to patreons that churn out one chapter a year

lol what

do you see the stupid shit that gets supported on patreon on a daily basis

Verbatim · October 20, 2018, 11:31:58 PM

Quote from: Flee on October 20, 2018, 06:54:15 PM

Quote from: Loaf's mother on October 20, 2018, 01:32:46 PM
that's the dream, but i'm not in a position right now where that's the easiest thing in the world to just do
This won't happen on its own though. You've gotta take steps to get there and put in the effort to achieve something like this down the line. I'm surprised to see you haven't done any of that yet tbh.

because college—like any job—saps me of all my time, money, and energy to work on my true passions

i literally would love nothing more than to work as hard as i can towards building some kind of self-generating revenue for myself, and becoming the artist that i've always wanted to be, even if my "art" is just being a youtube critic or some shit

but I CAN'T FUCKING DO IT without a time machine, because i was too fucking stupid and afraid to stand up to my parents and say "fuck you i'm taking a year off of school to figure things out first before i put myself into crippling debt THANKS"

Verbatim · October 20, 2018, 11:38:32 PM

and before you give me a million different examples of college-bound authors, journalists, and youtubers who are attending higher education while having a successful writing career on the side: yes, i'm aware that stronger people than me exist, thank you for rubbing it in my face

i work at my own pace, period

Elai · October 21, 2018, 12:27:30 AM

It really bothers me that your parents (and apparently, so many others) refuse to allow their children to even consider taking a year off after high school to figure things out, get job experience and generally grow as a human being. I regret not finishing high school when I did but I can tell you first hand that not being in school for the last 2-3 years has been incredibly rewarding for me. To the point where I recommend to every senior I meet to take a year off to work full-time or do some soul searching. University/college isn't going anywhere.

FatherlyNick - fuck putin · October 21, 2018, 08:48:13 AM

Being self-employed is hard if you don't have your name out there.
If you want to build your own brand, give people a taste of what it's about.

Flee · October 21, 2018, 11:44:22 AM

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