Hating people for parts of themselves they can't control is the ultimate evil

November 24, 2015, 04:02:16 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 24, 2015, 04:01:16 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2015, 03:59:08 PM
Don't be a hypocrite.
i literally just said those for shock value and hyperbole

like i often do

because i'm verb

so pretty much just trolling

Verbatim · November 24, 2015, 04:03:06 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2015, 04:02:16 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 24, 2015, 04:01:16 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2015, 03:59:08 PM
Don't be a hypocrite.
i literally just said those for shock value and hyperbole

like i often do

because i'm verb
so pretty much just trolling

if that's how you define trolling, sure
i don't define that as trolling

Solonoid · November 24, 2015, 04:03:21 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2015, 04:02:16 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 24, 2015, 04:01:16 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2015, 03:59:08 PM
Don't be a hypocrite.
i literally just said those for shock value and hyperbole

like i often do

because i'm verb
so pretty much just trolling

But he expects people to take him seriously.

Tsirist · November 24, 2015, 04:05:11 PM

Choice is an illusion, there is no evil.

Verbatim · November 24, 2015, 04:05:34 PM

Quote from: XSOLONOID has left on November 24, 2015, 04:03:21 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2015, 04:02:16 PM
Quote from: Verbatim on November 24, 2015, 04:01:16 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2015, 03:59:08 PM
Don't be a hypocrite.
i literally just said those for shock value and hyperbole

like i often do

because i'm verb
so pretty much just trolling
But he expects people to take him seriously.

not when i say you should be shot in an alley for liking scat porn

i mean that's pretty goddamn obviously not meant to be taken seriously but whatever

Verbatim · November 24, 2015, 04:05:52 PM

Quote from: Tsirist on November 24, 2015, 04:05:11 PM

Choice is an illusion, there is no evil.

choice being an illusion does not nullify the existence of evil

Desty · November 24, 2015, 04:08:25 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 24, 2015, 03:49:08 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2015, 03:41:11 PM
yeah I got that now, but the title was obviously an exaggeration, people here get way too caught up in semantics
well semantics are kind of important in this case if you're challenging us to prove a proposition wrong

hating people for unmitigable things is wrong, yes

ultimate evil?
no

protip: say what you mean

Holy shit your reply's adorable/cute.

It's the
"protip: say what you mean"
that really makes it.

I'm glad you exist.

FatherlyNick - fuck putin · November 24, 2015, 04:08:58 PM

Hating people for things that they do - which do not cause anyone harm/grief/pain is fucked up.

Homosexuals
Introverts
People who have casual sex regularly
etc.

Stop hating, start accepting.

Tsirist · November 24, 2015, 04:10:34 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 24, 2015, 04:05:52 PM

Quote from: Tsirist on November 24, 2015, 04:05:11 PM
Choice is an illusion, there is no evil.
choice being an illusion does not nullify the existence of evil

I didn't mean to imply that it did.

November 24, 2015, 04:10:41 PM

Quote from: FatherlyNick on November 24, 2015, 04:08:58 PM

Hating people for things that they do - which do not cause anyone harm/grief/pain is fucked up.

Homosexuals
Introverts
People who have casual sex regularly
etc.

Stop hating, start accepting.

I agree completely, but it still happens. In general, you shouldn't hate anyone for something they're doing that only affects themselves or consenting others.

clum clum · November 24, 2015, 04:12:30 PM

Accept, accept, accept without question is all that our society preaches. How much accepting is too much? Where do we draw the line?

November 24, 2015, 04:13:42 PM

Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:12:30 PM

Accept, accept, accept without question is all that our society preaches. How much accepting is too much? Where do we draw the line?

When what you're doing physically affects nonconsenting others.

clum clum · November 24, 2015, 04:16:29 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2015, 04:13:42 PM

Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:12:30 PM
Accept, accept, accept without question is all that our society preaches. How much accepting is too much? Where do we draw the line?
When what you're doing physically affects nonconsenting others.

Islam has been affecting me and yet I am told to accept. Jews have been affecting me yet I am told to accept. The list goes on and on.

Desty · November 24, 2015, 04:18:48 PM

Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:12:30 PM

Accept, accept, accept without question is all that our society preaches. How much accepting is too much? Where do we draw the line?

We draw the line when we know that we're capable argumentors with substantial logic and research behind our claim.

If the person likes one Pop artist, we don't have to accept that. We can ask if we're allowed to educate them on how many good artists there are out there, but we do have to accept the person's choice of only wanting to be familiar with one pop artist.

If the person blasts their music out loud, we aren't allowed to tell them to mute it, but we're allowed to blast our own music.

November 24, 2015, 04:18:51 PM

Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:16:29 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2015, 04:13:42 PM
Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:12:30 PM
Accept, accept, accept without question is all that our society preaches. How much accepting is too much? Where do we draw the line?
When what you're doing physically affects nonconsenting others.

Islam has been affecting me and yet I am told to accept. Jews have been affecting me yet I am told to accept. The list goes on and on.

Physically affecting you. The religion of Islam doesn't affect you physically unless you decide to convert.

FatherlyNick - fuck putin · November 24, 2015, 04:20:09 PM

Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:12:30 PM

Accept, accept, accept without question is all that our society preaches. How much accepting is too much? Where do we draw the line?

If you are a properly formed adult - you should have good values and morality. Observe and conclude. If something is bad, you should be able to tell if it is so.

Tsirist · November 24, 2015, 04:20:41 PM

Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:16:29 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2015, 04:13:42 PM
Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:12:30 PM
Accept, accept, accept without question is all that our society preaches. How much accepting is too much? Where do we draw the line?
When what you're doing physically affects nonconsenting others.

Islam has been affecting me and yet I am told to accept. Jews have been affecting me yet I am told to accept. The list goes on and on.

Your problem is that you're generalizing, an act that can lead to physical ramifications for nonconsenting others who have not necessarily done anything that would lead to physical harm to you. How about the Jews that don't affect you? What about the atheists that would harm you? Religion is not an adequate indicator of another person's respect for others, physically, economically, socially, etc.

clum clum · November 24, 2015, 04:20:43 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2015, 04:18:51 PM

Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:16:29 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2015, 04:13:42 PM
Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:12:30 PM
Accept, accept, accept without question is all that our society preaches. How much accepting is too much? Where do we draw the line?
When what you're doing physically affects nonconsenting others.

Islam has been affecting me and yet I am told to accept. Jews have been affecting me yet I am told to accept. The list goes on and on.
Physically affecting you. The religion of Islam doesn't affect you physically unless you decide to convert.

Islam has affected in me in the most physical sense, actually. I'm not going to go into detail.

Also, that is absolutely fucking retarded. People like you are why the human race is going to go extinct.

Verbatim · November 24, 2015, 04:21:45 PM

Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:20:43 PM

Also, that is absolutely fucking retarded. People like you are why the human race is going to go extinct.

actually, it's people like me

clum clum · November 24, 2015, 04:22:06 PM

Quote from: FatherlyNick on November 24, 2015, 04:20:09 PM

Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:12:30 PM
Accept, accept, accept without question is all that our society preaches. How much accepting is too much? Where do we draw the line?
If you are a properly formed adult - you should have good values and morality. Observe and conclude. If something is bad, you should be able to tell if it is so.

See, that's the problem, we're accepting things that are obviously bad and wrong.

clum clum · November 24, 2015, 04:23:26 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 24, 2015, 04:21:45 PM

Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:20:43 PM
Also, that is absolutely fucking retarded. People like you are why the human race is going to go extinct.
actually, it's people like me

You're wrong. People like you are so few and far between that it just isn't feasible.

cxfhvxgkcf-56:7 · November 24, 2015, 04:23:41 PM

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November 24, 2015, 04:24:25 PM

Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:20:43 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2015, 04:18:51 PM
Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:16:29 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2015, 04:13:42 PM
Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:12:30 PM
Accept, accept, accept without question is all that our society preaches. How much accepting is too much? Where do we draw the line?
When what you're doing physically affects nonconsenting others.

Islam has been affecting me and yet I am told to accept. Jews have been affecting me yet I am told to accept. The list goes on and on.
Physically affecting you. The religion of Islam doesn't affect you physically unless you decide to convert.

Islam has affected in me in the most physical sense, actually. I'm not going to go into detail.

Also, that is absolutely fucking retarded. People like you are why the human race is going to go extinct.

Calm down, lol

clum clum · November 24, 2015, 04:25:01 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2015, 04:24:25 PM

Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:20:43 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2015, 04:18:51 PM
Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:16:29 PM
Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2015, 04:13:42 PM
Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:12:30 PM
Accept, accept, accept without question is all that our society preaches. How much accepting is too much? Where do we draw the line?
When what you're doing physically affects nonconsenting others.

Islam has been affecting me and yet I am told to accept. Jews have been affecting me yet I am told to accept. The list goes on and on.
Physically affecting you. The religion of Islam doesn't affect you physically unless you decide to convert.

Islam has affected in me in the most physical sense, actually. I'm not going to go into detail.

Also, that is absolutely fucking retarded. People like you are why the human race is going to go extinct.
Calm down, lol

I wasn't expressing anger?

November 24, 2015, 04:25:22 PM

Quote from: ObamaLover69 on November 24, 2015, 04:23:41 PM

yeah man poor Hitler, Stalin, and Saddam. They were just misunderstood and couldn't control themselves.

We don't hate them because of their ethnicity, gender, orientation, nationality, or kinks. We hate them because of their actions.

cxfhvxgkcf-56:7 · November 24, 2015, 04:26:04 PM

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clum clum · November 24, 2015, 04:26:11 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2015, 04:25:22 PM

Quote from: ObamaLover69 on November 24, 2015, 04:23:41 PM
yeah man poor Hitler, Stalin, and Saddam. They were just misunderstood and couldn't control themselves.
We don't hate them because of their ethnicity, gender, orientation, nationality, or kinks. We hate them because of their actions.

But what they did was a result of their kinks - no normal person would do what they did.

Desty · November 24, 2015, 04:27:26 PM

Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:23:26 PM

Quote from: Verbatim on November 24, 2015, 04:21:45 PM
Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:20:43 PM
Also, that is absolutely fucking retarded. People like you are why the human race is going to go extinct.
actually, it's people like me

You're wrong. People like you are so few and far between that it just isn't feasible.

I don't know, Verbatim's logic converted me into his way of thinking.

We don't need a lot of Verbatims, we only need one that inspires us all.

November 24, 2015, 04:28:11 PM

Quote from: ObamaLover69 on November 24, 2015, 04:26:04 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2015, 04:25:22 PM
Quote from: ObamaLover69 on November 24, 2015, 04:23:41 PM
yeah man poor Hitler, Stalin, and Saddam. They were just misunderstood and couldn't control themselves.
We don't hate them because of their ethnicity, gender, orientation, nationality, or kinks. We hate them because of their actions.
which they couldn't control because they were psychopaths

You can get treated if you're a psychopath; not every one of them commits a violent crime. I'm talking about things you literally have no control over (and that don't affect others). People hate people who have certain fetishes, who are interested in the same sex, who have too much melanin in their skin. Those are the things that you truly have no control over.

Desty · November 24, 2015, 04:28:54 PM

Quote from: KinderEssen on November 24, 2015, 04:26:11 PM

Quote from: SecondClass on November 24, 2015, 04:25:22 PM
Quote from: ObamaLover69 on November 24, 2015, 04:23:41 PM
yeah man poor Hitler, Stalin, and Saddam. They were just misunderstood and couldn't control themselves.
We don't hate them because of their ethnicity, gender, orientation, nationality, or kinks. We hate them because of their actions.

But what they did was a result of their kinks - no normal person would do what they did.

Don't underestimate the lengths that normal people would go to disappoint the human race. Normal people can be cancer in many circumstances. It's up to you to rise above and get smarter.