It's a huge problem. I've said it several times.
Seems pretty obvious to me that they should be subjected to the same, strict regulations that apply to any other type of gun.
Quote from: Kernel Kraut on March 20, 2015, 01:04:56 PMQuote from: Flee on March 20, 2015, 11:38:59 AMSeems pretty obvious to me that they should be subjected to the same, strict regulations that apply to any other type of gun.If you have a way to do this, by all means, tell us. I could go down to the Home Depot, get 3/4 inch steel pipe, a 1 inch steel pipe, a pipe cap, and a nail. I could take these three things and turn it into a shotgun. Sell sits in the 3/4 inch pipe and the rim sits on the end of the pipe. Nail goes into cap which screws onto the 1 inch steel pipe. The 1 inch pipe slides over the 3/4 inch pipe and the nail hits the shotgun shell's primer. Boom, I have a shotgun with 20 dollars of pipe and fittings. How would you stop that?I didn't say I was going to stop that. I'm merely pointing out that they should theoretically be subject to the same rules as "normal" guns. The best you could do to stop this is by having to provide registration when taking it to the range or carrying it outside of your home (not that I advocate public carry in the first place, of course), followed by confiscation and a sanction when it's unregistered.
Quote from: Flee on March 20, 2015, 11:38:59 AMSeems pretty obvious to me that they should be subjected to the same, strict regulations that apply to any other type of gun.If you have a way to do this, by all means, tell us. I could go down to the Home Depot, get 3/4 inch steel pipe, a 1 inch steel pipe, a pipe cap, and a nail. I could take these three things and turn it into a shotgun. Sell sits in the 3/4 inch pipe and the rim sits on the end of the pipe. Nail goes into cap which screws onto the 1 inch steel pipe. The 1 inch pipe slides over the 3/4 inch pipe and the nail hits the shotgun shell's primer. Boom, I have a shotgun with 20 dollars of pipe and fittings. How would you stop that?
How do you arrest someone for failing to register some pipe they have in their garage?
How do you determine what a gun is and what a gun isn't?
Do you arrest someone based purely on constructive possession?
Or do you put anyone who buys pipe on a watch list like they do with anyone who buys large amounts of Nitrate based fertilizer?
Quote from: Kernel Kraut on March 20, 2015, 02:34:35 PMHow do you arrest someone for failing to register some pipe they have in their garage? Because it's clearly a gun.QuoteHow do you determine what a gun is and what a gun isn't?Does it look like a gun? YesDoes it do what a gun does? YesDoes it shoot bullets? YesIt's a gun.QuoteDo you arrest someone based purely on constructive possession?No. You give them the same treatment as anyone else who owns an unregistered gun.QuoteOr do you put anyone who buys pipe on a watch list like they do with anyone who buys large amounts of Nitrate based fertilizer?Stop being stupid.
I say make it all legal so I can kill all of you.
Quote from: Decimator Omega on March 20, 2015, 03:01:42 PMI say make it all legal so I can kill all of you.
Quote from: Kernel Kraut on March 20, 2015, 02:34:35 PMHow do you arrest someone for failing to register some pipe they have in their garage?Because that piping was transformed into a gun? I'm not entirely sure what's hard to grasp about this. QuoteHow do you determine what a gun is and what a gun isn't?The definition of a gun:"A weapon that bullets or shells (= explosive containers) are fired from.""A weapon incorporating a metal tube from which bullets, shells, or other missiles are propelled by explosive force, typically making a characteristic loud, sharp noise.""A weapon, especially a pistol or rifle, capable of firing a projectile and using an explosive charge as a propellant."Put those three together and come to an appropriate definition. If the homemade construction of tubes and pipes falls under it, it's considered a gun and should be registered.
Quote from: saⱭ tooᗺ 2x on March 20, 2015, 03:44:16 PMQuote from: Flee on March 20, 2015, 11:38:59 AMSeems pretty obvious to me that they should be subjected to the same, strict regulations that apply to any other type of gun.They already are here.DAS 1Commie Liberals 0Eh?
Quote from: Flee on March 20, 2015, 11:38:59 AMSeems pretty obvious to me that they should be subjected to the same, strict regulations that apply to any other type of gun.They already are here.DAS 1Commie Liberals 0
Quote from: Flee on March 20, 2015, 04:08:13 PMQuote from: saⱭ tooᗺ 2x on March 20, 2015, 03:44:16 PMQuote from: Flee on March 20, 2015, 11:38:59 AMSeems pretty obvious to me that they should be subjected to the same, strict regulations that apply to any other type of gun.They already are here.DAS 1Commie Liberals 0Eh?Just can't make class2/title3 firearms without the proper clearance and tax stamps and you can't make unserialed weapons to sell them. There's no gun registration here... technically. There's paperwork involved in purchasing a handgun though.
We need laws to to stop people from making their own gun parts, because criminals have to follow the law.
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