A religion-bashing book?
Quote from: I_IRONMAN_I on July 24, 2015, 09:48:31 PMA religion-bashing book?That's a crude way of putting it. But I haven't read it.
Quote from: Prehisnake on July 24, 2015, 09:51:23 PMQuote from: I_IRONMAN_I on July 24, 2015, 09:48:31 PMA religion-bashing book?That's a crude way of putting it. But I haven't read it.But that's clearly what it is. The damn cover says "how religion poisons everything.""A religion-bashing book" is probably the most clear and concise manner in which to summarize the book.
What's the point? I don't believe in any gods, but I don't feel the need to buy a bunch of self-aggrandizing novels to justify that.
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on July 25, 2015, 12:21:21 AMQuote from: Prehisnake on July 24, 2015, 09:51:23 PMQuote from: I_IRONMAN_I on July 24, 2015, 09:48:31 PMA religion-bashing book?That's a crude way of putting it. But I haven't read it.But that's clearly what it is. The damn cover says "how religion poisons everything.""A religion-bashing book" is probably the most clear and concise manner in which to summarize the book.Not necessarily. "Bashing" has connotations of incoherence and irrationality, which I'm sure is absent from Hitchen's book.
If I had posted "I don't have enough faith to be an atheist" (which I do own and have read), would you have said the same thing? Probably not.
Quote from: Prehisnake on July 25, 2015, 12:22:09 AMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on July 25, 2015, 12:21:21 AMQuote from: Prehisnake on July 24, 2015, 09:51:23 PMQuote from: I_IRONMAN_I on July 24, 2015, 09:48:31 PMA religion-bashing book?That's a crude way of putting it. But I haven't read it.But that's clearly what it is. The damn cover says "how religion poisons everything.""A religion-bashing book" is probably the most clear and concise manner in which to summarize the book.Not necessarily. "Bashing" has connotations of incoherence and irrationality, which I'm sure is absent from Hitchen's book."religion poisons everything."That's a pretty irrational and unfounded statement to me,
which thus leads me to believe the book is going to ignore any and all good religion serves,
Quote from: Prehisnake on July 25, 2015, 12:22:09 AMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on July 25, 2015, 12:21:21 AMQuote from: Prehisnake on July 24, 2015, 09:51:23 PMQuote from: I_IRONMAN_I on July 24, 2015, 09:48:31 PMA religion-bashing book?That's a crude way of putting it. But I haven't read it.But that's clearly what it is. The damn cover says "how religion poisons everything.""A religion-bashing book" is probably the most clear and concise manner in which to summarize the book.Not necessarily. "Bashing" has connotations of incoherence and irrationality, which I'm sure is absent from Hitchen's book."religion poisons everything."That's a pretty irrational and unfounded statement to me, which thus leads me to believe the book is going to ignore any and all good religion serves, and go out of it's way to put religion in the worst light possible.
Quote from: Prehisnake on July 25, 2015, 12:28:14 AMIf I had posted "I don't have enough faith to be an atheist" (which I do own and have read), would you have said the same thing? Probably not.Books about Christianity, as I've said before, have a much better reason to exist than books about atheism. Christianity is a set of beliefs. It has tenets, lore, and history.
And there's certainly no reason to spend time and money on a book that pointlessly builds up what really breaks down to a negative assertion.
Quote from: Mmmmm Napalm on July 25, 2015, 12:29:00 AMQuote from: Prehisnake on July 25, 2015, 12:22:09 AMQuote from: Mmmmm Napalm on July 25, 2015, 12:21:21 AMQuote from: Prehisnake on July 24, 2015, 09:51:23 PMQuote from: I_IRONMAN_I on July 24, 2015, 09:48:31 PMA religion-bashing book?That's a crude way of putting it. But I haven't read it.But that's clearly what it is. The damn cover says "how religion poisons everything.""A religion-bashing book" is probably the most clear and concise manner in which to summarize the book.Not necessarily. "Bashing" has connotations of incoherence and irrationality, which I'm sure is absent from Hitchen's book."religion poisons everything."That's a pretty irrational and unfounded statement to me,The entire point of the book is justifying that, so I'm not sure how it could be interpreted as "unfounded". You could make the argument that it is irrational to say, because of all the "good things" religious people do.Quotewhich thus leads me to believe the book is going to ignore any and all good religion serves,I doubt it, but like any logical person, it's going to focus on the negatives rather than the positives. Especially since the former outweighs the latter.
That's not being rational, that's just being edgy for the sake of being edgy.
No disrespect.
Quote from: Korra Valentine on July 25, 2015, 12:37:27 AMThat's not being rational, that's just being edgy for the sake of being edgy.or, realisticfor the sake of being...realistic
Quote from: Korra Valentine on July 25, 2015, 12:37:27 AMThat's not being rational, that's just being edgy for the sake of being edgy.It is absolutely rational to focus on the negatives over the positives. We evolved to feel more intensely about negatives than positives. Whether you feel yourself to be an optimist or not, there's no denying that negative emotions are stronger than positive ones.You could make the argument that being pessimistic (Ex. focusing on the negatives) is as rational as being optimistic. QuoteNo disrespect.None taken. I'm not the kind of person to feel offended once challenged.
pessimism is the only rational perspective
I take the good with the bad always.
I take the good with the bad always. I acknowledge the negatives though, only a fool wouldn't.
Quote from: Korra Valentine on July 25, 2015, 12:44:07 AMI take the good with the bad always.Which is absolutely your prerogative. I only disagree with your implication that pessimism is irrational, which it certainly isn't.
Guess what came in the mail today.
