I really liked Vegeta's development as a character.
Pls give me a logical argument as to why Goku could beat Supes. For the life of me I just can't grasp it.Old school campy bullshit supes? Sure. Modern varieties? Fat chance if you ask me.I know this isn't exactly on topic, sorry.
Quote from: SexyBarracuda on April 03, 2015, 03:11:35 PMPls give me a logical argument as to why Goku could beat Supes. For the life of me I just can't grasp it.Old school campy bullshit supes? Sure. Modern varieties? Fat chance if you ask me.I know this isn't exactly on topic, sorry.It depends on which variations, I'm not familar with superman but from most vs topics with those educated on him most variants stomp Goku.
Disagree Goku overcame countless odds. He was born with the crappiest genetics. Born to a lowclass average saiyan, he had an incredibly low powerlevel from birth. Destined to be average. Genetics are everything. He didn't even have the early intense training Vegeta and other saiyans received. But he overcame that. He pushed himself harder than anyone though possible and accomplished anything he set his mind to do. Goku is a real nigga
Quote from: Jive Turkey on April 03, 2015, 06:01:16 PMDisagree Goku overcame countless odds. He was born with the crappiest genetics. Born to a lowclass average saiyan, he had an incredibly low powerlevel from birth. Destined to be average. Genetics are everything. He didn't even have the early intense training Vegeta and other saiyans received. But he overcame that. He pushed himself harder than anyone though possible and accomplished anything he set his mind to do. Goku is a real niggayuuup. on his own Journey to the West, Son Goku befriended and was trained by the most prestigious martial arts masters in his world, meeting and befriending many more people and experiencing different cultures and new things and ALWAYS doing his best to help people in need, and he's always heartbroken when his friends or family are hurt. he's a great role model and a perfect character for a young kid to attach themselves to."You can destroy planets, but you can never destroy what I am, friend. I am the hope of the universe. I am the answer to all living things that cry out for peace. I am protector of the innocent, I am the light in the darkness... I am Truth. Ally to good, nightmare to you."
Quote from: Azumarill on April 03, 2015, 09:54:19 PMQuote from: Jive Turkey on April 03, 2015, 06:01:16 PMDisagree Goku overcame countless odds. He was born with the crappiest genetics. Born to a lowclass average saiyan, he had an incredibly low powerlevel from birth. Destined to be average. Genetics are everything. He didn't even have the early intense training Vegeta and other saiyans received. But he overcame that. He pushed himself harder than anyone though possible and accomplished anything he set his mind to do. Goku is a real niggayuuup. on his own Journey to the West, Son Goku befriended and was trained by the most prestigious martial arts masters in his world, meeting and befriending many more people and experiencing different cultures and new things and ALWAYS doing his best to help people in need, and he's always heartbroken when his friends or family are hurt. he's a great role model and a perfect character for a young kid to attach themselves to."You can destroy planets, but you can never destroy what I am, friend. I am the hope of the universe. I am the answer to all living things that cry out for peace. I am protector of the innocent, I am the light in the darkness... I am Truth. Ally to good, nightmare to you."Toriyama dislikes the way the anime made him out to be some sort of justice driven caped crusader. That's why in Kai Goku portrays more of his passive aggressiveness and more dickish personality. Goku doesn't fight people out of some sort of desire to do good and protect his friends, he does it so he can fight stronger people.In the end Vegeta became a much better person and father figure than Goku because he swallowed his pride and did things for the sake of others instead of himself. Plus he was actually there for his son.
Can we all just agree that DBZ sucks?
Goku could have been a better father.
Goku is a boring character with no development
