Quote from: Raw Sugar on March 28, 2015, 02:08:21 PMQuote from: Luke on March 28, 2015, 02:06:34 PMshe isn't quite a naggermanshe an Asiannaggerman. you're not appearing in my notifications, what is this sorcery
Quote from: Luke on March 28, 2015, 02:06:34 PMshe isn't quite a naggermanshe an Asiannaggerman.
she isn't quite a naggerman
Quote from: Azumarill on March 28, 2015, 02:36:22 PMQuote from: Raw Sugar on March 28, 2015, 02:34:10 PMQuote from: Azumarill on March 28, 2015, 02:29:05 PMQuote from: Raw Sugar on March 28, 2015, 02:25:34 PMQuote from: Azumarill on March 28, 2015, 02:18:58 PMthis is old newsthe manga, movie, anime series, and OVAs are all incredibly goodim very worried that theyre gonna hollywood the FUCK out of this movie. if they make a good GITS movie ill be extremely impressed. ScarJo is a good actress, and she can pull off Motoko's look (Motoko doesn't necessarily have to look Japanese, since she is full prosthetic, after all.) it's all up to the other actors, the director, and the writers.Wow. You actually think she's a good actress? She's so one dimensional. Have you seen her performance in Lucy? It felt just like how she acted in the marvel movies. Cold unfeeling and unrelatable. Even when she tried to be emotional she felt fake. I just have a really bad feeling about her casting in this movie. I was thinking that maybe she could play the roll of the puppet master? You know like when he hacked into that other synthetic?have you seen the other boleyn girl, or the prestige, or don jon? i think she's got the chops for it. she certainly wont be the main problem with the movie. ill eat my words if she is, but i have faith in her ability to pull off the character.. that is, if she decides to method act this thing and actually consume the original media. im not so sure about that.at least if its bad we can all pretend it didnt happen, like with the avatar movie.im gonna be honest, I think one of the main reasons it won't work is because she's white. Terrible acting aside, the anime had a lot of artistic scenes to it and I really liked how it showed off a cyberpunk look at Japan. Now having the protagonist as a white woman instead of someone who was actually part of the ethnic region just makes no sense. Do they really need a big name actress to make this film sell or will keeping it accurate and consistent to the anime be "good enough"?remember, motoko is a complete prosthetic. as such, she doesnt necessarily have to physically conform to any particular ethnicity. we've even seen significant variation in her appearance just in the media we already have, so i would argue that the claims of whitewashing are invalid, as long as we get actual substance.i have only seen the 1995 film so that's all I can go off of unfortunately. It just seems more reasonable that if people create a complete prosthetic, they'ed make it look like one of their own. Not like somebody on the other side of the world. Especially since as far as I know, Japan isn't as diverse as the North American countries. So what reason would they have to make prosthetics not look like themselves?
Quote from: Raw Sugar on March 28, 2015, 02:34:10 PMQuote from: Azumarill on March 28, 2015, 02:29:05 PMQuote from: Raw Sugar on March 28, 2015, 02:25:34 PMQuote from: Azumarill on March 28, 2015, 02:18:58 PMthis is old newsthe manga, movie, anime series, and OVAs are all incredibly goodim very worried that theyre gonna hollywood the FUCK out of this movie. if they make a good GITS movie ill be extremely impressed. ScarJo is a good actress, and she can pull off Motoko's look (Motoko doesn't necessarily have to look Japanese, since she is full prosthetic, after all.) it's all up to the other actors, the director, and the writers.Wow. You actually think she's a good actress? She's so one dimensional. Have you seen her performance in Lucy? It felt just like how she acted in the marvel movies. Cold unfeeling and unrelatable. Even when she tried to be emotional she felt fake. I just have a really bad feeling about her casting in this movie. I was thinking that maybe she could play the roll of the puppet master? You know like when he hacked into that other synthetic?have you seen the other boleyn girl, or the prestige, or don jon? i think she's got the chops for it. she certainly wont be the main problem with the movie. ill eat my words if she is, but i have faith in her ability to pull off the character.. that is, if she decides to method act this thing and actually consume the original media. im not so sure about that.at least if its bad we can all pretend it didnt happen, like with the avatar movie.im gonna be honest, I think one of the main reasons it won't work is because she's white. Terrible acting aside, the anime had a lot of artistic scenes to it and I really liked how it showed off a cyberpunk look at Japan. Now having the protagonist as a white woman instead of someone who was actually part of the ethnic region just makes no sense. Do they really need a big name actress to make this film sell or will keeping it accurate and consistent to the anime be "good enough"?remember, motoko is a complete prosthetic. as such, she doesnt necessarily have to physically conform to any particular ethnicity. we've even seen significant variation in her appearance just in the media we already have, so i would argue that the claims of whitewashing are invalid, as long as we get actual substance.
Quote from: Azumarill on March 28, 2015, 02:29:05 PMQuote from: Raw Sugar on March 28, 2015, 02:25:34 PMQuote from: Azumarill on March 28, 2015, 02:18:58 PMthis is old newsthe manga, movie, anime series, and OVAs are all incredibly goodim very worried that theyre gonna hollywood the FUCK out of this movie. if they make a good GITS movie ill be extremely impressed. ScarJo is a good actress, and she can pull off Motoko's look (Motoko doesn't necessarily have to look Japanese, since she is full prosthetic, after all.) it's all up to the other actors, the director, and the writers.Wow. You actually think she's a good actress? She's so one dimensional. Have you seen her performance in Lucy? It felt just like how she acted in the marvel movies. Cold unfeeling and unrelatable. Even when she tried to be emotional she felt fake. I just have a really bad feeling about her casting in this movie. I was thinking that maybe she could play the roll of the puppet master? You know like when he hacked into that other synthetic?have you seen the other boleyn girl, or the prestige, or don jon? i think she's got the chops for it. she certainly wont be the main problem with the movie. ill eat my words if she is, but i have faith in her ability to pull off the character.. that is, if she decides to method act this thing and actually consume the original media. im not so sure about that.at least if its bad we can all pretend it didnt happen, like with the avatar movie.im gonna be honest, I think one of the main reasons it won't work is because she's white. Terrible acting aside, the anime had a lot of artistic scenes to it and I really liked how it showed off a cyberpunk look at Japan. Now having the protagonist as a white woman instead of someone who was actually part of the ethnic region just makes no sense. Do they really need a big name actress to make this film sell or will keeping it accurate and consistent to the anime be "good enough"?
Quote from: Raw Sugar on March 28, 2015, 02:25:34 PMQuote from: Azumarill on March 28, 2015, 02:18:58 PMthis is old newsthe manga, movie, anime series, and OVAs are all incredibly goodim very worried that theyre gonna hollywood the FUCK out of this movie. if they make a good GITS movie ill be extremely impressed. ScarJo is a good actress, and she can pull off Motoko's look (Motoko doesn't necessarily have to look Japanese, since she is full prosthetic, after all.) it's all up to the other actors, the director, and the writers.Wow. You actually think she's a good actress? She's so one dimensional. Have you seen her performance in Lucy? It felt just like how she acted in the marvel movies. Cold unfeeling and unrelatable. Even when she tried to be emotional she felt fake. I just have a really bad feeling about her casting in this movie. I was thinking that maybe she could play the roll of the puppet master? You know like when he hacked into that other synthetic?have you seen the other boleyn girl, or the prestige, or don jon? i think she's got the chops for it. she certainly wont be the main problem with the movie. ill eat my words if she is, but i have faith in her ability to pull off the character.. that is, if she decides to method act this thing and actually consume the original media. im not so sure about that.at least if its bad we can all pretend it didnt happen, like with the avatar movie.
Quote from: Azumarill on March 28, 2015, 02:18:58 PMthis is old newsthe manga, movie, anime series, and OVAs are all incredibly goodim very worried that theyre gonna hollywood the FUCK out of this movie. if they make a good GITS movie ill be extremely impressed. ScarJo is a good actress, and she can pull off Motoko's look (Motoko doesn't necessarily have to look Japanese, since she is full prosthetic, after all.) it's all up to the other actors, the director, and the writers.Wow. You actually think she's a good actress? She's so one dimensional. Have you seen her performance in Lucy? It felt just like how she acted in the marvel movies. Cold unfeeling and unrelatable. Even when she tried to be emotional she felt fake. I just have a really bad feeling about her casting in this movie. I was thinking that maybe she could play the roll of the puppet master? You know like when he hacked into that other synthetic?
this is old newsthe manga, movie, anime series, and OVAs are all incredibly goodim very worried that theyre gonna hollywood the FUCK out of this movie. if they make a good GITS movie ill be extremely impressed. ScarJo is a good actress, and she can pull off Motoko's look (Motoko doesn't necessarily have to look Japanese, since she is full prosthetic, after all.) it's all up to the other actors, the director, and the writers.
Quote from: Raw Sugar on March 28, 2015, 02:48:12 PMQuote from: Azumarill on March 28, 2015, 02:36:22 PMQuote from: Raw Sugar on March 28, 2015, 02:34:10 PMQuote from: Azumarill on March 28, 2015, 02:29:05 PMQuote from: Raw Sugar on March 28, 2015, 02:25:34 PMQuote from: Azumarill on March 28, 2015, 02:18:58 PMthis is old newsthe manga, movie, anime series, and OVAs are all incredibly goodim very worried that theyre gonna hollywood the FUCK out of this movie. if they make a good GITS movie ill be extremely impressed. ScarJo is a good actress, and she can pull off Motoko's look (Motoko doesn't necessarily have to look Japanese, since she is full prosthetic, after all.) it's all up to the other actors, the director, and the writers.Wow. You actually think she's a good actress? She's so one dimensional. Have you seen her performance in Lucy? It felt just like how she acted in the marvel movies. Cold unfeeling and unrelatable. Even when she tried to be emotional she felt fake. I just have a really bad feeling about her casting in this movie. I was thinking that maybe she could play the roll of the puppet master? You know like when he hacked into that other synthetic?have you seen the other boleyn girl, or the prestige, or don jon? i think she's got the chops for it. she certainly wont be the main problem with the movie. ill eat my words if she is, but i have faith in her ability to pull off the character.. that is, if she decides to method act this thing and actually consume the original media. im not so sure about that.at least if its bad we can all pretend it didnt happen, like with the avatar movie.im gonna be honest, I think one of the main reasons it won't work is because she's white. Terrible acting aside, the anime had a lot of artistic scenes to it and I really liked how it showed off a cyberpunk look at Japan. Now having the protagonist as a white woman instead of someone who was actually part of the ethnic region just makes no sense. Do they really need a big name actress to make this film sell or will keeping it accurate and consistent to the anime be "good enough"?remember, motoko is a complete prosthetic. as such, she doesnt necessarily have to physically conform to any particular ethnicity. we've even seen significant variation in her appearance just in the media we already have, so i would argue that the claims of whitewashing are invalid, as long as we get actual substance.i have only seen the 1995 film so that's all I can go off of unfortunately. It just seems more reasonable that if people create a complete prosthetic, they'ed make it look like one of their own. Not like somebody on the other side of the world. Especially since as far as I know, Japan isn't as diverse as the North American countries. So what reason would they have to make prosthetics not look like themselves?you're getting close to one of the most significant themes in the series, which is the Ship of Theseus.the Ship of Theseus is a classical thought experiment, which asks if something which has had all of its original parts replaced remains fundamentally the same object. motoko's origin story differs in each individual series, but the general idea remains the same; she has crafted her body to reflect very specific aspects of herself. she lost her body at a young age in all of the media (to my knowledge,) and she picked this buxom, feminine form after she reached maturity (at least in Stand Alone Complex.) her motives for her form are somewhat unclear, but we do know that she is at once the most attractive, smartest, most dangerous person "in the room." despite the fact that she is a complete prosthetic, and no longer "human," she retains her incredible intelligence and is one of the most "human" people in the series. she is the Ship of Theseus.so, given what we know, its not outlandish to presume that she might have chosen a non-asian prosthetic model for this particular vehicle.id also highly recommend watching the Stand Alone Complex anime. its the best seinen series of all time, imo.
Quote from: Azumarill on March 28, 2015, 03:01:36 PMQuote from: Raw Sugar on March 28, 2015, 02:48:12 PMQuote from: Azumarill on March 28, 2015, 02:36:22 PMQuote from: Raw Sugar on March 28, 2015, 02:34:10 PMQuote from: Azumarill on March 28, 2015, 02:29:05 PMQuote from: Raw Sugar on March 28, 2015, 02:25:34 PMQuote from: Azumarill on March 28, 2015, 02:18:58 PMthis is old newsthe manga, movie, anime series, and OVAs are all incredibly goodim very worried that theyre gonna hollywood the FUCK out of this movie. if they make a good GITS movie ill be extremely impressed. ScarJo is a good actress, and she can pull off Motoko's look (Motoko doesn't necessarily have to look Japanese, since she is full prosthetic, after all.) it's all up to the other actors, the director, and the writers.Wow. You actually think she's a good actress? She's so one dimensional. Have you seen her performance in Lucy? It felt just like how she acted in the marvel movies. Cold unfeeling and unrelatable. Even when she tried to be emotional she felt fake. I just have a really bad feeling about her casting in this movie. I was thinking that maybe she could play the roll of the puppet master? You know like when he hacked into that other synthetic?have you seen the other boleyn girl, or the prestige, or don jon? i think she's got the chops for it. she certainly wont be the main problem with the movie. ill eat my words if she is, but i have faith in her ability to pull off the character.. that is, if she decides to method act this thing and actually consume the original media. im not so sure about that.at least if its bad we can all pretend it didnt happen, like with the avatar movie.im gonna be honest, I think one of the main reasons it won't work is because she's white. Terrible acting aside, the anime had a lot of artistic scenes to it and I really liked how it showed off a cyberpunk look at Japan. Now having the protagonist as a white woman instead of someone who was actually part of the ethnic region just makes no sense. Do they really need a big name actress to make this film sell or will keeping it accurate and consistent to the anime be "good enough"?remember, motoko is a complete prosthetic. as such, she doesnt necessarily have to physically conform to any particular ethnicity. we've even seen significant variation in her appearance just in the media we already have, so i would argue that the claims of whitewashing are invalid, as long as we get actual substance.i have only seen the 1995 film so that's all I can go off of unfortunately. It just seems more reasonable that if people create a complete prosthetic, they'ed make it look like one of their own. Not like somebody on the other side of the world. Especially since as far as I know, Japan isn't as diverse as the North American countries. So what reason would they have to make prosthetics not look like themselves?you're getting close to one of the most significant themes in the series, which is the Ship of Theseus.the Ship of Theseus is a classical thought experiment, which asks if something which has had all of its original parts replaced remains fundamentally the same object. motoko's origin story differs in each individual series, but the general idea remains the same; she has crafted her body to reflect very specific aspects of herself. she lost her body at a young age in all of the media (to my knowledge,) and she picked this buxom, feminine form after she reached maturity (at least in Stand Alone Complex.) her motives for her form are somewhat unclear, but we do know that she is at once the most attractive, smartest, most dangerous person "in the room." despite the fact that she is a complete prosthetic, and no longer "human," she retains her incredible intelligence and is one of the most "human" people in the series. she is the Ship of Theseus.so, given what we know, its not outlandish to presume that she might have chosen a non-asian prosthetic model for this particular vehicle.id also highly recommend watching the Stand Alone Complex anime. its the best seinen series of all time, imo.i actually picked up on this theme after but I didn't see how it could relate here. I finished the movie and I was thinking to myself. "It was good but what exactly was it about?" Eventually I stumbled across a small explanation of that concept and it blew me away because it's actually a new idea to me. I see what you're saying though and it totally makes sense.
I'd rather they not do a live action adaptation at all.
I hate ScarJo, I hate anime, and I hate Hollywood adaptations.Though I may still watch this because I love irony.
Personally I'd love to see an all Asian cast since it would stay true to the story and the setting. Not to mention I really dislike her acting style. Thoughts?
Hnnng Scarlett Johansson would be a good choiceBut they should really go with an Asian actress. Hollywood whitewashing = not cool
I would have like a Japanese or asian actress but shit dont roll that way. Im afraid that they are going to fuck up the movie. Usually video games or anime to live action movies always end up in shit or worse, Uwe Boll could take a crack at it.
I really don't understand the hate for Scarjo.Motoko can look like anyone she wants because she's a god damn cyborg.
Quote from: Kupo on March 28, 2015, 06:54:32 PMHnnng Scarlett Johansson would be a good choiceBut they should really go with an Asian actress. Hollywood whitewashing = not coolfanboy detected.
Quote from: Raw Sugar on March 28, 2015, 08:05:13 PMQuote from: Kupo on March 28, 2015, 06:54:32 PMHnnng Scarlett Johansson would be a good choiceBut they should really go with an Asian actress. Hollywood whitewashing = not coolfanboy detected.>.> Black Widow tho
Quote from: Kupo on March 28, 2015, 09:13:19 PMQuote from: Raw Sugar on March 28, 2015, 08:05:13 PMQuote from: Kupo on March 28, 2015, 06:54:32 PMHnnng Scarlett Johansson would be a good choiceBut they should really go with an Asian actress. Hollywood whitewashing = not coolfanboy detected.>.> Black Widow thoshes a one dimensional actress.
Quote from: Raw Sugar on March 28, 2015, 09:19:26 PMQuote from: Kupo on March 28, 2015, 09:13:19 PMQuote from: Raw Sugar on March 28, 2015, 08:05:13 PMQuote from: Kupo on March 28, 2015, 06:54:32 PMHnnng Scarlett Johansson would be a good choiceBut they should really go with an Asian actress. Hollywood whitewashing = not coolfanboy detected.>.> Black Widow thoshes a one dimensional actress.um wow ok
Quote from: Erives on March 28, 2015, 06:35:04 PMI would have like a Japanese or asian actress but shit dont roll that way. Im afraid that they are going to fuck up the movie. Usually video games or anime to live action movies always end up in shit or worse, Uwe Boll could take a crack at it.i think the Wachowskis would be the best choice for this movie. they were heavily inspired by the original GITS film, and that inspiration turned into the Matrix. i think if anyone could do a live-action version of GITS and make it not just passable, but incredible, its them
Quote from: Kupo on March 28, 2015, 09:22:51 PMQuote from: Raw Sugar on March 28, 2015, 09:19:26 PMQuote from: Kupo on March 28, 2015, 09:13:19 PMQuote from: Raw Sugar on March 28, 2015, 08:05:13 PMQuote from: Kupo on March 28, 2015, 06:54:32 PMHnnng Scarlett Johansson would be a good choiceBut they should really go with an Asian actress. Hollywood whitewashing = not coolfanboy detected.>.> Black Widow thoshes a one dimensional actress.um wow okdude, she freaking played black widow in the movie Lucy. If the plot was tweaked, it totally could have been her origin story!
Ghost in the shell with Scarlet Johansson?
