Quote from: RustingFloor on September 19, 2014, 09:11:01 AM

Quote from: MyNameIsCharlie on September 19, 2014, 09:06:33 AM

Something tells me that you guys don't know what free speech is. It is not being able to say anything and get away consequence free. I know it was mostly /b/, but threats, illegal porn, gore, and such are bot really protected.

If any form of expression is banned, then there is NOT free speech.

Now threats and CP I can understand, but gore should not be restricted.

Gore isn't free speech fucktard.

Do you base that on some legal definition or can you give me an objective reason why shock images and gore should not be protected? And don't give me any "muh feels" crap

"Free Speech" on that website is just a bunch of fat antisocial pussies complaining about things, being bigots and being sexist. Maybe if they got off that website and went outside once in while they would have some compassion, lose some weight, and stop being perverts.

Fuck 4chan

"Free Speech" on that website is just a bunch of fat antisocial pussies complaining about things, being bigots and being sexist. Maybe if they got off that website and went outside once in while they would have some compassion, lose some weight, and stop being perverts.

Fuck 4chan

>projecting this hard

Quote from: PSU on September 19, 2014, 09:26:44 AM

"Free Speech" on that website is just a bunch of fat antisocial pussies complaining about things, being bigots and being sexist. Maybe if they got off that website and went outside once in while they would have some compassion, lose some weight, and stop being perverts.

Fuck 4chan

>projecting this hard

Greentexting in 2014 HAHAHAHAHA

Quote from: RustingFloor on September 19, 2014, 09:37:12 AM

Quote from: challengerX on September 19, 2014, 09:22:29 AM

Quote from: RustingFloor on September 19, 2014, 09:17:20 AM

And the gore point is ultimately irrelevant because, again, that's not what is being suppressed on 4chan

Moot is suppressing discussion of a major issue that is huge for gaming

You cannot defend that.

Seems to me like you kiddies just discovered there's corruption in life. This whole thing is blown way out of proportion.

I mean does anybody really watch or read anything about the game industry? I don't even read reviews anymore. You guys want to take these people down, ignore them. Whining all day doesn't accomplish anything.

I'm still not sure what the fuck all this is about, so if somebody would like to enlighten me that it really is the big deal you guys are making it out to be, I might just agree. But it seems to me you guys are overreacting at something which was pretty damn obvious.

We've been organized and we've made a ton of progress finding connections and collusions and exposing them, and we've already removed a few corrupted journalists.

We're not just whining, we're people from all kinds of different backgrounds working to stop games media from pushing political agendas where they do not belong.

LOL Sure thing bro.

It's funny, if you're all busy exposing and doing super secret detetctive work, why do you care about posting gore and shock images?

FUCKING LOL I WROTE OGRE INSTEAD OF GORE

Same reason I believe Churches should be able to place ads, same reason I think republicans and leftists should be able to say what they want.

Just because I'm not interested in something, or I disagree with it, doesn't mean it should be restricted.

It's not relevant to gamergate, but most things aren't.

Good! People say it's sanctuary of free speech but really, it's a haven of cowards. A place where people can say and post the most disgusting and repulsive things behind the safety and anonymity of their computer screen. There still is free speech, there always has been but there are consequences, good or bad. People like 4chan because they can say/do whatever they want without taking responsibility for their actions. It's a den of cowards like I said and I won't miss it.

Quote from: Kitsune on September 19, 2014, 10:15:41 AM

Good! People say it's sanctuary of free speech but really, it's a haven of cowards. A place where people can say and post the most disgusting and repulsive things behind the safety and anonymity of their computer screen. There still is free speech, there always has been but there are consequences, good or bad. People like 4chan because they can say/do whatever they want without taking responsibility for their actions. It's a den of cowards like I said and I won't miss it.

We're not all the same person, 4chan is made up of people from all walks of life, following every school of thought.

so what?

Quote from: PSU on September 19, 2014, 09:39:26 AM

Quote from: RustingFloor on September 19, 2014, 09:30:56 AM

Quote from: PSU on September 19, 2014, 09:26:44 AM

"Free Speech" on that website is just a bunch of fat antisocial pussies complaining about things, being bigots and being sexist. Maybe if they got off that website and went outside once in while they would have some compassion, lose some weight, and stop being perverts.

Fuck 4chan

>projecting this hard

Greentexting in 2014 HAHAHAHAHA

Okay, would you like me to rephrase it to meet your standards, princess?

Wow, I cannot believe you are projecting this hard.

Better?

Sure thing. No need to get your panties in a wad everytime someone disagrees with you.

But please continue being a SJW. It sure is a great use of your time!!!!!!

We've been organized and we've made a ton of progress finding connections and collusions and exposing them, and we've already removed a few corrupted journalists.

LOLOLOL

You can cry all you want, but the 4chan user base brought this on itself. How many times could they spoof the news and make everyone believe someone is dead? How many times could they be used as an army to go after someone online? How much child porn is too much? You are missing the point about 4chan and Gamergate. Had they brought attention to what happened, her trading sex for favorable reviews and downplaying her competitors, then things would be good. That isn't what they did. They attacked her. They figured out how to get on her social media feeds, they threatened her family and friends, they threatened her with violence and sexual assault.

What they did was worse than what she did. No other way to say that.

They had a slam dunk situation. Take down someone who is fucking up her own cause, and they could have improved gaming reviews while they were at it. And they fucked it up by acting like kids.

Then the Fappening. They could have kept that shit quiet. Just enjoyed it for themselves. But by spreading it around like a bunch of fools, they called down the lightening. Painted a giant target on their site.

Then the regular posting of child porn. Over and over again. Even if they got immediately banned, how is this making that site look in the eyes of the law?

Something had to give. If Moot hadn't done something then others would have stepped in and done it for him. They would have shut it down.

4Chan isn't a human right. Not by a long shot. It is the asshole of the internet. Most places would be happy to see it gone, if they even knew it existed in the first place.

You can cry all you want, but the 4chan user base brought this on itself. How many times could they spoof the news and make everyone believe someone is dead? How many times could they be used as an army to go after someone online? How much child porn is too much? You are missing the point about 4chan and Gamergate. Had they brought attention to what happened, her trading sex for favorable reviews and downplaying her competitors, then things would be good. That isn't what they did. They attacked her. They figured out how to get on her social media feeds, they threatened her family and friends, they threatened her with violence and sexual assault.

What they did was worse than what she did. No other way to say that.

They had a slam dunk situation. Take down someone who is fucking up her own cause, and they could have improved gaming reviews while they were at it. And they fucked it up by acting like kids.

Then the Fappening. They could have kept that shit quiet. Just enjoyed it for themselves. But by spreading it around like a bunch of fools, they called down the lightening. Painted a giant target on their site.

Then the regular posting of child porn. Over and over again. Even if they got immediately banned, how is this making that site look in the eyes of the law?

Something had to give. If Moot hadn't done something then others would have stepped in and done it for him. They would have shut it down.

4Chan isn't a human right. Not by a long shot. It is the asshole of the internet. Most places would be happy to see it gone, if they even knew it existed in the first place.

Gamergate isn't about Quinn anymore, stop trying to make it that.

Gamergate is about the rampant corruption within the gaming press. Money is fucking changing hands between journalists and developers. That is absolutely unacceptable.

We did NOT threaten Zoe, her family, or her friends, that is a lie. We learned a long time ago not to do that, it just makes us look bad. Anyone making threats is either on their own, or it's a false flag.

This movement is bigger than 4chan, but /v/ was, until now, a safe haven for it.

CP gets posted all over the internet. Moot does not support it and the mods clean it up as soon as it pops up. You cannot hold him, or us, accountable for that.

Fucking really? "asshole of the internet"? What, did you spend an hour on /b/ and then never come back? Anons say faggot and nigger pretty often, but the discourse is generally much more intelligent than any of the shit you'll find elsewhere.

"The Fappening" was not 4chan organized. It was a deepweb network of hackers who sold celebrity nudes to each other. One of them decided to come forward and share it, and they chose /b/ to do it. 4chan is populous enough that of fucking course word is going to spread.
Then, the people involved, having no understanding of the Streisand effect, tried to suppress it. And we all know what happens when you try to suppress information on the internet.

Quote from: Kitsune on September 19, 2014, 11:52:39 AM

Quote from: RustingFloor on September 19, 2014, 10:35:59 AM

Quote from: Kitsune on September 19, 2014, 10:31:54 AM

Quote from: RustingFloor on September 19, 2014, 10:29:34 AM

Quote from: Kitsune on September 19, 2014, 10:15:41 AM

Good! People say it's sanctuary of free speech but really, it's a haven of cowards. A place where people can say and post the most disgusting and repulsive things behind the safety and anonymity of their computer screen. There still is free speech, there always has been but there are consequences, good or bad. People like 4chan because they can say/do whatever they want without taking responsibility for their actions. It's a den of cowards like I said and I won't miss it.

We're not all the same person, 4chan is made up of people from all walks of life, following every school of thought.

so what?

You make it sound like we're a bunch of scumbags or criminals or something, just because we want to talk without having our names thrown around.

if you associate yourself with scumbags and paedos, don't get defensive when people start saying you are one. ESPECIALLY when you all share each others "anonymity".

HURR ALL OF 4CHAN IS /b/ HURRRRRRRRRRRr

like I said, if you associate yourself with the wrong people, thats how people will look at you. Its how the world works. Deal with it.

You posted on Bnet.

Should I associate you with #destiny?

No one would blame you if you did, which is the whole point. It's not a matter of "should it happen", it's a matter of "does it happen", and the answer is yes. And it's always going to be like this. You can't train people not to generalize. Generalizations actually serve a great purpose in discourse.