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I have long hair and act effeminate, but I'm a white cis male. My younger brother even has long nails, still a cis white male.
and yet you both probably still look like guy, so your effeminate nature probably doesn't override that at all

what's your point

are you this dense on purpose


 
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and even if someone were confused, you would just correct them, as people do

i used to have long hair as a kid, and people would mistake me for a girl on occasion--and i would correct them

they would apologize, and i would say, "that's okay"

and then i would fucking forget about it

this is so unbelievably fucking simple, i have to wonder how you function socially at all


 
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I DONT GIVE A SINGLE -blam!- MOTHER -blam!-ER ITS A MOTHER -blam!-ING FORUM, OH WOW, YOU HAVE THE WORD NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, HOW MOTHER -blam!-ING COOL, NOT, YOUR ARE NOTHING TO ME BUT A BRAINWASHED PIECE OF SHIT BLOGGER, PEOPLE ONLY LIKE YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE NINJA BELOW YOUR NAME, SO PLEASE PUNCH YOURAELF IN THE FACE AND STAB YOUR EYE BECAUSE YOU ARE NOTHING BUT A PIECE OF SHIT OF SOCIETY
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Excuse me, I'm full of dog poison
I have long hair and act effeminate, but I'm a white cis male. My younger brother even has long nails, still a cis white male.
and yet you both probably still look like guy, so your effeminate nature probably doesn't override that at all

what's your point

are you this dense on purpose

You're talking about gender signifiers even there are none. Being a cross dresser doesn't even change your gender, you just like dressing like the other gender occasionally.


My point is that trying to guess someone's gender when it doesn't match their sex is pretty goddamn difficult.


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Excuse me, I'm full of dog poison
and even if someone were confused, you would just correct them, as people do

i used to have long hair as a kid, and people would mistake me for a girl on occasion--and i would correct them

they would apologize, and i would say, "that's okay"

and then i would fucking forget about it

this is so unbelievably fucking simple, i have to wonder how you function socially at all

You've obviously never come across somehow where this is a problem. Not everyone is as easy going as you are.


 
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My point is that trying to guess someone's gender when it doesn't match their sex is pretty goddamn difficult.
it's actually the easiest thing in the goddamn world and you're a turbo-autist if you can't do it

i'm serious

even if you guess wrong, that shit happens all the time, and it's not the end of the fucking world--oops, you mistook someone for a girl, oh well, nobody cares

you mentioned cross-dressers--uh, guy, the entire point of being a cross-dresser is to be ambiguous and confusing

they're playing around with gender expectations, and if you're confused by that, then they've done their job


 
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You've obviously never come across somehow where this is a problem. Not everyone is as easy going as you are.
if there's a transgirl (someone who is biologically male but identifies as female), chances are, they're going to present themselves as such, and you'll know just by looking at them that they identify as female

but if you're genuinely not sure, there are easy ways to work around it--i'm not going to school you through them all, because again, these are basic social things that everyone should have gathered by the time they became 5

one way is to avoid using third person pronouns around them, because it's not like you NEED them anyway if you're speaking directly to them
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My point is that trying to guess someone's gender when it doesn't match their sex is pretty goddamn difficult.
it's actually the easiest thing in the goddamn world


that shit happens all the time

Huh.


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Excuse me, I'm full of dog poison
You've obviously never come across somehow where this is a problem. Not everyone is as easy going as you are.
if there's a transgirl (someone who is biologically male but identifies as female), chances are, they're going to present themselves as such, and you'll know just by looking at them that they identify as female

but if you're genuinely not sure, there are easy ways to work around it--i'm not going to school you through them all, because again, these are basic social things that everyone should have gathered by the time they became 5

one way is to avoid using third person pronouns around them, because it's not like you NEED them anyway if you're speaking directly to them

Avoiding using his or her (or xer) preferred pronouns is a pretty shit thing to do.



 
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Huh.
"all the time" relative to how easy it is

so basically never, but even when it does happen, it's really not a big deal if you mistake someone's gender

if they make a big deal out of it, then they're a bitch

that's my point


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Tyger never got back to me on what the problem was. And today was great, I'm feeling more comfortable around QT every time we do a meetup.


 
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Avoiding using his or her (or xer) preferred pronouns is a pretty shit thing to do.
not if you're speaking directly to them, which is what i just said

this message is being typed for you, so i'm using second-person pronouns (you, your, etc.), not third-person pronouns

second-person pronouns do not signify gender, so you're completely safe


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Huh.
"all the time" relative to how easy it is

so basically never, but even when it does happen, it's really not a big deal if you mistake someone's gender

if they make a big deal out of it, then they're a bitch

that's my point

Sure thing verb. You are right in that it makes them an asshole. They're basically baiting a wrong answer just to get mad about it.


 
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Excuse me, I'm full of dog poison
Avoiding using his or her (or xer) preferred pronouns is a pretty shit thing to do.
not if you're speaking directly to them, which is what i just said

this message is being typed for you, so i'm using second-person pronouns (you, your, etc.), not third-person pronouns

second-person pronouns do not signify gender, so you're completely safe

When speaking directly to the person yes this can be avoided. It's still a tip toe procedure though.


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Our interactions don't seem to make it seem like they're gauging me, and if it was they would know that's not the case. Furthermore, the other one knows I'm trying to spend more time with the QT (they're really close) so I'm pretty sure I'm in the clear on that department.

Basically he's saying they think you're gay or just want to be friends

But sometimes they'll bring a friend to gauge you and act like it's just a friend get together

WEW girls play too much
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Ian, just be cool. Chances are she's already made up her mind about you, now it's just time to let it play out.


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What do you mean by that?

Chances are she's already made up her mind about you


 
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When speaking directly to the person yes this can be avoided. It's still a tip toe procedure though.
i just think you're making it sound way more difficult than it needs to be


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What do you mean by that?

Chances are she's already made up her mind about you

Girls figure out pretty early on whether or not they're willing to date you. It's very hard to convince them otherwise.


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When speaking directly to the person yes this can be avoided. It's still a tip toe procedure though.
i just think you're making it sound way more difficult than it needs to be

It's more just me being frustrated because I was chewed out for a solid thirty minutes for misgendering someone.

Totally innocent mistake on my part but that's not how it was viewed.


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Oh God really? How the Hell do I figure out this view on me?

Girls figure out pretty early on whether or not they're willing to date you. It's very hard to convince them otherwise.


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Oh God really? How the Hell do I figure out this view on me?

Girls figure out pretty early on whether or not they're willing to date you. It's very hard to convince them otherwise.

Asking is the easiest and most direct method. You could pussyfoot around for six months though, if you're a big fan of wasting time.


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I don't have six months. I have until the end of July if I'm lucky.

But the problem is I physically am unable to bring myself to escalate things. Asking someone out on a date? I'll just open my mouth and nothing will come out.

You could pussyfoot around for six months though, if you're a big fan of wasting time.


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I don't have six months. I have until the end of July if I'm lucky.

But the problem is I physically am unable to bring myself to escalate things. Asking someone out on a date? I'll just open my mouth and nothing will come out.

You could pussyfoot around for six months though, if you're a big fan of wasting time.

Fear and anxiety will do you no favors. It's hard but it's not impossible. What are you hoping to get out of the relationship?


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What do you mean by the relationship? Like what am I hoping with what I have now or later?

What are you hoping to get out of the relationship?


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What do you mean by the relationship? Like what am I hoping with what I have now or later?

What are you hoping to get out of the relationship?

If she is leaving so soon, what's the point of pursuing her?


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Why should distance keep me from that? I'm not saying distance doesn't make it harder, but it's not impossible.

Every girl I meet that lives within my radius just isn't my type. And I find that she seems to mesh well with my morals and beliefs. Should I pass her up for somebody I don't match well with just because she lives somewhere else? I don't particularly agree with that logic.

If she is leaving so soon, what's the point of pursuing her?
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Why should distance keep me from that? I'm not saying distance doesn't make it harder, but it's not impossible.

Every girl I meet that lives within my radius just isn't my type. And I find that she seems to mesh well with my morals and beliefs. Should I pass her up for somebody I don't match well with just because she lives somewhere else? I don't particularly agree with that logic.

If she is leaving so soon, what's the point of pursuing her?

I would ask her soon then. No time like the present.


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Fuuuuuug, it's scary though. ;-;

The last time I tried with a different girl two years ago it went horribly.

I would ask her soon then. No time like the present.