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I'll have to go back and find the articles and videos that demonstrated that she's been taking other people's videos and claiming them as her own when I'm not at work and not using a phone.


 
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Yeah, that was wrong of me. For one, Turkey's already provided that LPers have basically no right to fair use; honestly, if FROM wished to, I doubt that there's anything you could do to prevent a takedown. The persistence of Let's Play channels rely on the copyright owners either granting sponsorship or not choosing invoke their rights as the copyright holder.
exactly

except for one thing--commentaries, as far as i know, are indeed protected, and that's what my videos are

i don't show a substantial amount of content in my videos, and i certainly don't profit from the videos

also, i would argue that my black knight video is transformative in the sense that i'm showcasing a glitch--something that's not meant to be a part of the game, and asking viewers for a possible explanation

so i beg to differ with turkey one that one, but in terms of from's right to take my videos down, i think it's certainly arguable, and i certainly wouldn't whine about it--but i believe my videos are fair game
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Where's this coming from exactly? There's having several heated disagreements with people and then there's being a passive aggressive prick about it. I expect this kind of snarky behaviour from Verb, not you.
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But in raising plagiarism, I do have to ask: is accidental plagiarism not a plausible argument? I can't say whether or not she didn't intentionally create the misconception that she herself recorded the video clips, but not citing the source is a form of plagiarism. If it isn't, in this instance, could you explain why so?

Plagiarism is the theft of someone's ideas or style -- copyright infringement is the theft of their content. If she stole someone's clips (by claiming them as her own or exceeding fair use criteria), that'd be copyright infringement. If she stole someone's published arguments about feminism in video games, or their style of video or mannerisms, etc, and it wasn't in a satirical capacity, that'd be plagiarism.

So if she had (knowingly, and defining that can be a whole other can of worms) used an argument made by someone else in a video, then that's plagiarism.


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Yeah, that was wrong of me. For one, Turkey's already provided that LPers have basically no right to fair use; honestly, if FROM wished to, I doubt that there's anything you could do to prevent a takedown. The persistence of Let's Play channels rely on the copyright owners either granting sponsorship or not choosing invoke their rights as the copyright holder.
exactly

except for one thing--commentaries, as far as i know, are indeed protected, and that's what my videos are

i don't show a substantial amount of content in my videos, and i certainly don't profit from the videos

so i beg to differ with turkey one that one, but in terms of from's right to take my videos down, it's arguable that they'd be within their right, and i wouldn't really have much to say about it
Even if it isn't the case that there is absolutely zero legal reason for why she should cite the source of her video, no matter how obscure it be, I still hold that she morally ought to credit the source.

It takes a few minutes, at most, to rig layer simple lines of text to display over the first few seconds of the clips. There's no reason why not to, and being a nice person is the most obvious reason to do so.


 
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Even if it isn't the case that there is absolutely zero legal reason for why she should cite the source of her video, no matter how obscure it be, I still hold that she morally ought to credit the source.

It takes a few minutes, at most, to rig layer simple lines of text to display over the first few seconds of the clips. There's no reason why not to, and being a nice person is the most obvious reason to do so.
fair enough


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Where's this coming from exactly? There's having several heated disagreements with people and then there's being a passive aggressive prick about it. I expect this kind of snarky behaviour from Verb, not you.
I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to, but I don't think it was snarky or passive aggressive. I bluntly told him that he was wrong and didn't know what he was talking about in regards to citation and fair use. Sorry? I had to respond to what seemed like a dozen identical posts riddled with the same misconceptions.

To anyone that was offended by my bluntness: just get over it, I guess. You know that I don't mean anything personally or insultingly and I would never lose respect for someone for participating in any side of a discussion.


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But in raising plagiarism, I do have to ask: is accidental plagiarism not a plausible argument? I can't say whether or not she didn't intentionally create the misconception that she herself recorded the video clips, but not citing the source is a form of plagiarism. If it isn't, in this instance, could you explain why so?

Plagiarism is the theft of someone's ideas or style -- copyright infringement is the theft of their content. If she stole someone's clips (by claiming them as her own or exceeding fair use criteria), that'd be copyright infringement. If she stole someone's published arguments about feminism in video games, or their style of video or mannerisms, etc, and it wasn't in a satirical capacity, that'd be plagiarism.

So if she had (knowingly, and defining that can be a whole other can of worms) used an argument made by someone else in a video, then that's plagiarism.
Visual plagiarism is a thing now too; though, to be fair, it mostly applies to artwork like paintings or photography.


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Where's this coming from exactly? There's having several heated disagreements with people and then there's being a passive aggressive prick about it. I expect this kind of snarky behaviour from Verb, not you.
I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to, but I don't think it was snarky or passive aggressive. I bluntly told him that he was wrong and didn't know what he was talking about in regards to citation and fair use. Sorry? I had to respond to what seemed like a dozen identical posts riddled with the same misconceptions.

To anyone that was offended by my bluntness: just get over it, I guess. You know that I don't mean anything personally or insultingly and I would never lose respect for someone for participating in any side of a discussion.
I'm pretty sure he was referring to Death.

Nevermind.
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Where's this coming from exactly? There's having several heated disagreements with people and then there's being a passive aggressive prick about it. I expect this kind of snarky behaviour from Verb, not you.
I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to, but I don't think it was snarky or passive aggressive. I bluntly told him that he was wrong and didn't know what he was talking about in regards to citation and fair use. Sorry? I had to respond to what seemed like a dozen identical posts riddled with the same misconceptions.

To anyone that was offended by my bluntness: just get over it, I guess. You know that I don't mean anything personally or insultingly and I would never lose respect for someone for participating in any side of a discussion.
Not really offended, just perplexed by your behaviour. I mean, I don't give a fuck one way or the other what you think and how you respond to people, I guess I just expected a bit more intellectual rigour and a little less condescension from you.


 
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maybe you should just stop hating women


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maybe you should just stop hating women
stop being haterphobic

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Not really offended, just perplexed by your behaviour. I mean, I don't give a fuck one way or the other what you think and how you respond to people, I guess I just expected a bit more intellectual rigour and a little less condescension from you.

That's weird, because I thought I always argued with a tinge of condescension. All things being equal I think I was pretty patient with so many people saying the same wrong things over and over. Sorry if I seemed hostile.


 
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yeah you were kinda going in a little hard there, turkey

i was impressed


 
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what do you make of the point i brought up about LPs being commentaries, though

does it even matter

i was completely with you up until you mentioned that--i think some (not all) LPs are protected, but i could be incorrect
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what do you make of the point i brought up about LPs being commentaries, though

does it even matter

i was completely with you up until you mentioned that--i think some (not all) LPs are protected, but i could be incorrect

I haven't looked very far in LPs and fair use, but I don't believe LPs are generally considered fair use currently, but I think there's a strong argument for them being such. For example, think of any LP you follow -- would you watch that video without the commentary? If not, I think the "heart of the content" lies in the original commentary being added to the video, rather than the game itself. Or even beyond that, just seeing the players' perspective is itself a form of commentary.

Sorry for being harsh earlier; I respect your opinion and didn't intend to be rude, but I was.
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It's YouTube. They do this all the time because they have no official terms of service. They need to sort that out, because it's unfair to so many people. Both hated, loved, and small time starting out.

It'll be back up soon.


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Where's this coming from exactly? There's having several heated disagreements with people and then there's being a passive aggressive prick about it. I expect this kind of snarky behaviour from Verb, not you.

That wasn't at all


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It's YouTube. They do this all the time because they have no official terms of service. They need to sort that out, because it's unfair to so many people. Both hated, loved, and small time starting out.

It'll be back up soon.
It already is.


 
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http://vicsorsopinion.blogspot.be/2013/07/anitas-sources.html?m=1

Here's an earlier piece on her stealing other peoples let's plays, also some bonus stuff about her using other peoples artwork to promote herself without the artists permission.

I'll have to see if u can dig up the social media compilation for the other stuff. Not really interested on doing that on a phone.


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http://vicsorsopinion.blogspot.be/2013/07/anitas-sources.html?m=1

Here's an earlier piece on her stealing other peoples let's plays, also some bonus stuff about her using other peoples artwork to promote herself without the artists permission.

I'll have to see if u can dig up the social media compilation for the other stuff. Not really interested on doing that on a phone.
I've already posted this fgt.


 
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Let's plays are also generally considered to be fair use due to the interactive nature of the medium and the commentary from the personalities that make them.


 
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http://vicsorsopinion.blogspot.be/2013/07/anitas-sources.html?m=1

Here's an earlier piece on her stealing other peoples let's plays, also some bonus stuff about her using other peoples artwork to promote herself without the artists permission.

I'll have to see if u can dig up the social media compilation for the other stuff. Not really interested on doing that on a phone.
I've already posted this fgt.

Oh

I'm only checking in every once in a while due to being kind of busy at work at the minute.