Quote from: Sandtrap on November 05, 2014, 06:47:40 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 05, 2014, 06:45:25 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on November 05, 2014, 06:44:11 PMWe've paid off 12,000You've had money to move.That 12,000 dollars was made, and given to the bank over the course of five years. So, no, no we didn't. Not in one shot.You have internet and a device to use it. You can afford moving.
Quote from: Camnator on November 05, 2014, 06:45:25 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on November 05, 2014, 06:44:11 PMWe've paid off 12,000You've had money to move.That 12,000 dollars was made, and given to the bank over the course of five years. So, no, no we didn't. Not in one shot.
Quote from: Sandtrap on November 05, 2014, 06:44:11 PMWe've paid off 12,000You've had money to move.
We've paid off 12,000
holy shit this thread
Quote from: Mad Max on November 05, 2014, 07:02:41 PMholy shit this threadWanna share some popcorn?
Quote from: Sandtrap on November 05, 2014, 07:03:33 PMAs I said, this place, and all it comes with, pays itself and only itself. Disconnect it all and then you're in shit when the bills demand money to be paid. Plus, I don't need to move, because there's nowhere else to go here, there is nowhere else I'd rather be.But even if I wanted to physically move, I'd have to abandon everything I own and take what I could and stuff it into a backpack, and hitchike. Hitchike to where? Who the fuck knows, because it's all the same. City, town, or country, the situation is the same.Everybody walks on a tightrope here. When it snaps, you're fucked.It's tough up here. But that doesn't mean I'm a quitter.Whatever works for you.
As I said, this place, and all it comes with, pays itself and only itself. Disconnect it all and then you're in shit when the bills demand money to be paid. Plus, I don't need to move, because there's nowhere else to go here, there is nowhere else I'd rather be.But even if I wanted to physically move, I'd have to abandon everything I own and take what I could and stuff it into a backpack, and hitchike. Hitchike to where? Who the fuck knows, because it's all the same. City, town, or country, the situation is the same.Everybody walks on a tightrope here. When it snaps, you're fucked.It's tough up here. But that doesn't mean I'm a quitter.
Quote from: Sandtrap on November 05, 2014, 07:07:54 PMWhich was exactly the point that BC made. Sometimes whatever works for you doesn't work. And you can't do much to change it. Only try.But my point is you can always change it.
Which was exactly the point that BC made. Sometimes whatever works for you doesn't work. And you can't do much to change it. Only try.
Quote from: Sandtrap on November 05, 2014, 07:10:12 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 05, 2014, 07:08:39 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on November 05, 2014, 07:07:54 PMWhich was exactly the point that BC made. Sometimes whatever works for you doesn't work. And you can't do much to change it. Only try.But my point is you can always change it.Not so. You can try. But it doesn't always work. Because with trying, comes the potential for failure. Trying doesn't mean you win.If you fail it would be your fault, though. You can always succeed with enough determination.
Quote from: Camnator on November 05, 2014, 07:08:39 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on November 05, 2014, 07:07:54 PMWhich was exactly the point that BC made. Sometimes whatever works for you doesn't work. And you can't do much to change it. Only try.But my point is you can always change it.Not so. You can try. But it doesn't always work. Because with trying, comes the potential for failure. Trying doesn't mean you win.
Quote from: Sandtrap on November 05, 2014, 07:17:01 PMyou can't really do muchYou can. Moving to a more prosperous area for growth and foraging.
you can't really do much
Sometimes, the odds aren't in your favor. And you can't change that.
Quote from: Nuka on November 05, 2014, 07:37:29 PMQuote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 06:18:30 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 05, 2014, 06:17:22 PMQuote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 06:16:36 PMcan you leave? Yes....your lack of understanding is bothering me.I give up. You win.You're better off just ignoring him.Of course someone I made humiliate themselves would believe that. Sorry I attempted to wake you to reality.
Quote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 06:18:30 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 05, 2014, 06:17:22 PMQuote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 06:16:36 PMcan you leave? Yes....your lack of understanding is bothering me.I give up. You win.You're better off just ignoring him.
Quote from: Camnator on November 05, 2014, 06:17:22 PMQuote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 06:16:36 PMcan you leave? Yes....your lack of understanding is bothering me.I give up. You win.
Quote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 06:16:36 PMcan you leave? Yes.
can you leave?
Quote from: Sandtrap on November 05, 2014, 07:32:38 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 05, 2014, 07:19:42 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on November 05, 2014, 07:17:01 PMyou can't really do muchYou can. Moving to a more prosperous area for growth and foraging.No, you don't seem to get it. My province, is a big fat fucking slab of flat plains. There is nowhere else to go becausea) All available land is ownedb)Anything for sale is ridiculous in pricec)When one part of this province is hit by weather, the entire province is hit by the same weather in generald)Money is a tightrope up heree)Why bother moving when you already have something to start with?Point is, I live here, I do what I can, and that's that. I don't win everything because that's not possible. If I did win everything with this so called magical determination of mine, then I'd be king shit of the world. But I'm not. Crops fail, disease knocks you down, weather pisses on you, injuries and complications knock you out of the fight.Try as you might, you can't change everything, you can't manage everything, and most of all, even if I did manage to go somewhere else, the problems would still be present, because that's what problems do. Problems appear no matter where you go.So, as BC said, folk in poor countries could try and move around to better parts. But with such a wide space to travel, they'd either die along the way, or they'd arrive and meet the same fate. Sometimes, the odds aren't in your favor. And you can't change that.There's always a plane. Just saying, if it's sometimes impossible to survive off of the land there and you won't be able to afford to live there by other means, I'd move to a more suitable area so I can survive. For folks in poorer countries, wait until you have minimal supplies and then walk to a better area.
Quote from: Camnator on November 05, 2014, 07:19:42 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on November 05, 2014, 07:17:01 PMyou can't really do muchYou can. Moving to a more prosperous area for growth and foraging.No, you don't seem to get it. My province, is a big fat fucking slab of flat plains. There is nowhere else to go becausea) All available land is ownedb)Anything for sale is ridiculous in pricec)When one part of this province is hit by weather, the entire province is hit by the same weather in generald)Money is a tightrope up heree)Why bother moving when you already have something to start with?Point is, I live here, I do what I can, and that's that. I don't win everything because that's not possible. If I did win everything with this so called magical determination of mine, then I'd be king shit of the world. But I'm not. Crops fail, disease knocks you down, weather pisses on you, injuries and complications knock you out of the fight.Try as you might, you can't change everything, you can't manage everything, and most of all, even if I did manage to go somewhere else, the problems would still be present, because that's what problems do. Problems appear no matter where you go.So, as BC said, folk in poor countries could try and move around to better parts. But with such a wide space to travel, they'd either die along the way, or they'd arrive and meet the same fate. Sometimes, the odds aren't in your favor. And you can't change that.
Of course someone I made humiliate themselves would believe that. Sorry I attempted to wake you to reality.
Who was that at?
Quote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 07:42:47 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 05, 2014, 07:40:46 PMQuote from: Nuka on November 05, 2014, 07:37:29 PMQuote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 06:18:30 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 05, 2014, 06:17:22 PMQuote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 06:16:36 PMcan you leave? Yes....your lack of understanding is bothering me.I give up. You win.You're better off just ignoring him.Of course someone I made humiliate themselves would believe that. Sorry I attempted to wake you to reality.Who was that at?If this is meant to be directed at me, he didn't "humiliate" me. I just got fed up with how full of shit he tends to be in any discussion. So word of warning, there's really no reason to attempt debating anything because he acts like everything he says is the ultimate truth.Now it wold be nice if this thread didn't have to keep going this route.
Quote from: Camnator on November 05, 2014, 07:40:46 PMQuote from: Nuka on November 05, 2014, 07:37:29 PMQuote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 06:18:30 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 05, 2014, 06:17:22 PMQuote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 06:16:36 PMcan you leave? Yes....your lack of understanding is bothering me.I give up. You win.You're better off just ignoring him.Of course someone I made humiliate themselves would believe that. Sorry I attempted to wake you to reality.Who was that at?
Quote from: Sandtrap on November 05, 2014, 07:52:19 PMQuote from: Nuka on November 05, 2014, 07:47:18 PMQuote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 07:42:47 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 05, 2014, 07:40:46 PMQuote from: Nuka on November 05, 2014, 07:37:29 PMQuote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 06:18:30 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 05, 2014, 06:17:22 PMQuote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 06:16:36 PMcan you leave? Yes....your lack of understanding is bothering me.I give up. You win.You're better off just ignoring him.Of course someone I made humiliate themselves would believe that. Sorry I attempted to wake you to reality.Who was that at?If this is meant to be directed at me, he didn't "humiliate" me. I just got fed up with how full of shit he tends to be in any discussion. So word of warning, there's really no reason to attempt debating anything because he acts like everything he says is the ultimate truth.Now it wold be nice if this thread didn't have to keep going this route.You ever go ice skating in a vehicle Nukes? Wanna ride shotgun while I do a figure 8 in my truck on the ice in a parking lot? Since we're on the subject of derailment, why not talk about my province and this wonderful hospitable snow that's rolliing in! Smell that clean air!Ice skating in...a vehicle?
Quote from: Nuka on November 05, 2014, 07:47:18 PMQuote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 07:42:47 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 05, 2014, 07:40:46 PMQuote from: Nuka on November 05, 2014, 07:37:29 PMQuote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 06:18:30 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 05, 2014, 06:17:22 PMQuote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 06:16:36 PMcan you leave? Yes....your lack of understanding is bothering me.I give up. You win.You're better off just ignoring him.Of course someone I made humiliate themselves would believe that. Sorry I attempted to wake you to reality.Who was that at?If this is meant to be directed at me, he didn't "humiliate" me. I just got fed up with how full of shit he tends to be in any discussion. So word of warning, there's really no reason to attempt debating anything because he acts like everything he says is the ultimate truth.Now it wold be nice if this thread didn't have to keep going this route.You ever go ice skating in a vehicle Nukes? Wanna ride shotgun while I do a figure 8 in my truck on the ice in a parking lot? Since we're on the subject of derailment, why not talk about my province and this wonderful hospitable snow that's rolliing in! Smell that clean air!
>empathy>wealthy peopleYou can't empathize with something that doesn't have feelings to being with.
Quote from: Sandtrap on November 05, 2014, 07:56:20 PMQuote from: Nuka on November 05, 2014, 07:53:06 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on November 05, 2014, 07:52:19 PMQuote from: Nuka on November 05, 2014, 07:47:18 PMQuote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 07:42:47 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 05, 2014, 07:40:46 PMQuote from: Nuka on November 05, 2014, 07:37:29 PMQuote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 06:18:30 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 05, 2014, 06:17:22 PMQuote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 06:16:36 PMcan you leave? Yes....your lack of understanding is bothering me.I give up. You win.You're better off just ignoring him.Of course someone I made humiliate themselves would believe that. Sorry I attempted to wake you to reality.Who was that at?If this is meant to be directed at me, he didn't "humiliate" me. I just got fed up with how full of shit he tends to be in any discussion. So word of warning, there's really no reason to attempt debating anything because he acts like everything he says is the ultimate truth.Now it wold be nice if this thread didn't have to keep going this route.You ever go ice skating in a vehicle Nukes? Wanna ride shotgun while I do a figure 8 in my truck on the ice in a parking lot? Since we're on the subject of derailment, why not talk about my province and this wonderful hospitable snow that's rolliing in! Smell that clean air!Ice skating in...a vehicle?The grid roads up here, when frozen in the winter, are miles long stretches of ice. When you go fast enough, you can slide down two miles worth of road with no traction whatsoever, like a slip n' slide for vehicles.In a big frozen space like a parking lot, I could literally practically go ice skating with my truck by sliding around everywhere. I'm half assed familiar with braking and turning on ice when you lose control, so that you can regain control. Through controlled loss of control, in essence, you can go ice skating in your vehicle.That sounds...terrifying. But then again I come from an area where it doesn't snow so I would no idea how difficult driving a vehicle on ice would be. I mean as it is, people tend to get in a lot of accidents every time it rains. Kind of ridiculous. (It's rumored that we're sold lower quality tires in this region. Also because it doesn't rain often, the roads become crazy slick because of the oil.)
Quote from: Nuka on November 05, 2014, 07:53:06 PMQuote from: Sandtrap on November 05, 2014, 07:52:19 PMQuote from: Nuka on November 05, 2014, 07:47:18 PMQuote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 07:42:47 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 05, 2014, 07:40:46 PMQuote from: Nuka on November 05, 2014, 07:37:29 PMQuote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 06:18:30 PMQuote from: Camnator on November 05, 2014, 06:17:22 PMQuote from: BC1096 on November 05, 2014, 06:16:36 PMcan you leave? Yes....your lack of understanding is bothering me.I give up. You win.You're better off just ignoring him.Of course someone I made humiliate themselves would believe that. Sorry I attempted to wake you to reality.Who was that at?If this is meant to be directed at me, he didn't "humiliate" me. I just got fed up with how full of shit he tends to be in any discussion. So word of warning, there's really no reason to attempt debating anything because he acts like everything he says is the ultimate truth.Now it wold be nice if this thread didn't have to keep going this route.You ever go ice skating in a vehicle Nukes? Wanna ride shotgun while I do a figure 8 in my truck on the ice in a parking lot? Since we're on the subject of derailment, why not talk about my province and this wonderful hospitable snow that's rolliing in! Smell that clean air!Ice skating in...a vehicle?The grid roads up here, when frozen in the winter, are miles long stretches of ice. When you go fast enough, you can slide down two miles worth of road with no traction whatsoever, like a slip n' slide for vehicles.In a big frozen space like a parking lot, I could literally practically go ice skating with my truck by sliding around everywhere. I'm half assed familiar with braking and turning on ice when you lose control, so that you can regain control. Through controlled loss of control, in essence, you can go ice skating in your vehicle.
Because our society as it stands is founded on money. Money, grants you access to things. And with so much money, everything becomes an option. Every single thing you could ever think of, becomes something you can grasp. And not only that, but it becomes effortless to attain.So, what happens, when you can go anywhere? Buy anything? Do, literally anything you can think of? What happens, when there's no challenge? Because let's face it, we as people need a driving, life goal of sorts to keep ourselves occupied. Like a hobby, except with more intensity.The answer is, with so much power, it becomes boring. So what's left?
Empathizing with the 1%
