Quote from: DietrichSix on October 02, 2015, 01:36:21 PMWhen I smoke weed I'm in control of all my faculties, it's an enhancer for me. Needing drugs to work at full capacity is pretty pathetic, bro.
When I smoke weed I'm in control of all my faculties, it's an enhancer for me.
You can't prove something that's not falsifiable. Fun is subjective. I'd hold personal enjoyment over not wasting time any day. And who cares if you see everything the way it is? Clearheadedness can be boring and dull sometimes. Nothing can relieve that except getting high. You have yet to show why thinking completely straight is always a good thing.
Quote from: Carsonogen on October 02, 2015, 01:41:24 PMYou can't prove something that's not falsifiable. Fun is subjective. I'd hold personal enjoyment over not wasting time any day. And who cares if you see everything the way it is? Clearheadedness can be boring and dull sometimes. Nothing can relieve that except getting high. You have yet to show why thinking completely straight is always a good thing.That depends on your values. Is it better to be blissfully ignorant, or to know the truth at all times?I'll take the truth, always. Fuck ignorance.
Never once stated that, thanks chief.Where do personal attacks lay on your graph of logical fallacies?
Reality is truth.Truth has positive value; untruth has negative value.Sobriety gives you an accurate picture of reality.Intoxication gives you an untrue picture of reality.Therefore, life spent sober is better than life spent intoxicated.
Now we're getting somewhere. I'd choose blissfully ignorant any day. To me, personal happiness is the only, ultimate goal in life. Honestly, if I could choose to be born at Forrest Gump levels of IQ and happiness, I'd easily take that. I consider myself a relatively smart guy, but that's not important to me at all when paired with material bliss.
Quote from: DietrichSix on October 02, 2015, 01:42:27 PMNever once stated that, thanks chief.Where do personal attacks lay on your graph of logical fallacies?It's called an ad hominem, but I can reword it into an actual argument if you're too stupid to do that yourself.Reality is truth.Truth has positive value; untruth has negative value.Sobriety gives you an accurate picture of reality.Intoxication gives you an untrue picture of reality.Therefore, life spent sober is better than life spent intoxicated.
Quote from: Carsonogen on October 02, 2015, 01:44:09 PMNow we're getting somewhere. I'd choose blissfully ignorant any day. To me, personal happiness is the only, ultimate goal in life. Honestly, if I could choose to be born at Forrest Gump levels of IQ and happiness, I'd easily take that. I consider myself a relatively smart guy, but that's not important to me at all when paired with material bliss.I cannot reconcile with this mindset. I don't know where it comes from, and I can't for a second relate with it. What about the truth of reality to you is so distasteful?
You are really reaching now.
Let's say your right and being sober is objectively better, what's wrong with interrupting it with a little time being high?
Most truths are sad and painful. Some truths can make you happy, but the vast majority do the exact opposite. Truth doesn't hold any inherent value for me like it does for you; happiness and pleasure do.I see where you come from, but I just have a different criterion for value in life.
Quote from: DietrichSix on October 02, 2015, 01:51:01 PMYou are really reaching now.Uh, no. I'm not.Have you seriously never seen a formally constructed philosophical argument before?... How old are you?QuoteLet's say your right and being sober is objectively better, what's wrong with interrupting it with a little time being high?*you'reBecause that's time you could have spent sober. That's similar to asking, "Let's say you're right, and bashing your head against a wall before you go to bed isn't an intelligent thing to do. What's wrong with just doing it once?"Well... Nothing?... But it's still fucking stupid, and I'm gonna tell you to stop if I see you doing it. Even though you're probably not gonna damage yourself in the long run, it's still stupid.
Causing yourself pain and bouncing your brain around in your skull isn't fun in the slightest, there's no upside.
Like I said drugs aren't for everyone but it doesn't make others less intelligent for it.
Quote from: DietrichSix on October 02, 2015, 02:06:11 PMCausing yourself pain and bouncing your brain around in your skull isn't fun in the slightest, there's no upside.Hurr durr, that's just your opinion. There might be someone who disagrees with you. Why are you treating your opinion as a fact? Wow, you're so childish.QuoteLike I said drugs aren't for everyone but it doesn't make others less intelligent for it.Yes, it does. And I philosophically demonstrated why.And you failed to refute it.
"Truth is good, untruth is bad" is not a philosophy, it struggles to be a sentence.
If I were to refute your "philosophy" I'd say that a different way of looking at something isn't untrue, it's just different.
Quote from: DietrichSix on October 02, 2015, 02:20:24 PM"Truth is good, untruth is bad" is not a philosophy, it struggles to be a sentence.You're right, it's not a philosophy--it's a tenet. A premise.And you've yet to refute it.QuoteIf I were to refute your "philosophy" I'd say that a different way of looking at something isn't untrue, it's just different.And therefore wrong.Because there is only one way of looking at reality.How the fuck is that a refutation.
Perception is reality friend, what's true for me may not be true for you.
>Started by CindoDon't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby.
Why does it matter?if you wanna do drugs, do drugs - but know that the harder stuff/excessive use will mess you up big time in the long run.If you don't wanna use them, don't fucking use them.This abomination of a debate isn't going to change anyone, evidently, as it has been going for 11 pages.
Quote from: DietrichSix on October 02, 2015, 02:27:47 PMPerception is reality friend, what's true for me may not be true for you.Except there are universal truths, some of which are tarnished while being high. Which is absolutely unacceptable.
Quote from: Alton Brown had sex w/ me on October 02, 2015, 02:39:24 PMWhy does it matter?if you wanna do drugs, do drugs - but know that the harder stuff/excessive use will mess you up big time in the long run.If you don't wanna use them, don't fucking use them.This abomination of a debate isn't going to change anyone, evidently, as it has been going for 11 pages.which isn't a lot considering that there were 7 or 8 participants
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 02, 2015, 02:37:50 PMQuote from: DietrichSix on October 02, 2015, 02:27:47 PMPerception is reality friend, what's true for me may not be true for you.Except there are universal truths, some of which are tarnished while being high. Which is absolutely unacceptable.What universal truths might those be?
Quote from: Cindo on October 02, 2015, 02:34:39 PM>Started by CindoDon't you put that evil on me, Ricky Bobby.We're all here because of you.I am so close to getting him to change his opinion.
Quote from: DietrichSix on October 02, 2015, 02:41:00 PMQuote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 02, 2015, 02:37:50 PMQuote from: DietrichSix on October 02, 2015, 02:27:47 PMPerception is reality friend, what's true for me may not be true for you.Except there are universal truths, some of which are tarnished while being high. Which is absolutely unacceptable.What universal truths might those be?99% of things. Including math and logic, both of which are bent and debilitated while intoxicated under most given mind-altering substances.
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