Drugs n stuff

Verbatim · October 02, 2015, 09:10:18 AM

Quote from: 🍄Tryptameme🍄 on October 02, 2015, 09:08:48 AM

Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 02, 2015, 09:00:22 AM
Quote from: 🍄Tryptameme🍄 on October 02, 2015, 08:58:20 AM
I hope people in here don't think that dabs are a "hard" drug, because it's literally just concentrated THC
So it's obviously harder than non-concentrated THC.
well what does "hard" even mean here?

It has stronger, more debilitating effects.

challengerX · October 02, 2015, 09:11:11 AM

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Dopameme · October 02, 2015, 09:12:56 AM

i really want to talk to cindo about drugs now

cxfhvxgkcf-56:7 · October 02, 2015, 09:13:07 AM

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Verbatim · October 02, 2015, 09:13:43 AM

Quote from: 🔫⛽️🅰🆖 on October 02, 2015, 09:11:11 AM

Nasty nobody's using the government definition of "hard drug". Or at least I'm not.

Under the government's definition of "hard drug," marijuana is filed next to heroin in terms of how hard it is. Sooo yeah. Fuck that.

Dopameme · October 02, 2015, 09:16:56 AM

Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 02, 2015, 09:10:18 AM

Quote from: 🍄Tryptameme🍄 on October 02, 2015, 09:08:48 AM
Quote from: Fuddy-duddy on October 02, 2015, 09:00:22 AM
Quote from: 🍄Tryptameme🍄 on October 02, 2015, 08:58:20 AM
I hope people in here don't think that dabs are a "hard" drug, because it's literally just concentrated THC
So it's obviously harder than non-concentrated THC.
well what does "hard" even mean here?
It has stronger, more debilitating effects.

okay then that coincides with what i said in the rest of my post.

imho, if you've smoked weed then you've dabbed, to an extent. you get the same effects with both substances, except you just get more bang for your buck with dabs because of how concentrated it is.

Verbatim · October 02, 2015, 09:17:41 AM

Well, what the fuck ever. Who cares?

Dopameme · October 02, 2015, 09:20:10 AM

wait is that post directed towards me

i thought you cared?

Dopameme · October 02, 2015, 09:22:31 AM

Quote from: 🔫⛽️🅰🆖 on October 02, 2015, 09:11:11 AM

Nasty nobody's using the government definition of "hard drug". Or at least I'm not.

what is your username even supposed to mean

Verbatim · October 02, 2015, 09:24:42 AM

I'm bringing this post to the forefront.

Quote from: Cindo on October 02, 2015, 01:37:27 AM

Drugs - yes, even "hard" ones - are pretty much all fine in moderation. Personally I believe that you should be able to put into yourself whatever you wish so long as you're only endangering yourself and others, though I personally wouldn't be shooting up krokodil every sunday evening or snorting five lines of cocaine before my breakfast.

You're contradicting yourself. Under your logic, there's no logical reason for you not to snort cocaine, in "moderation". That's an irrational aversion, according to your logic.

I really loathe the moderation argument because you're forgetting an important part of it--it's not just "everything in moderation"--it's everything in moderation, including moderation. That means there really are some things that you should never try. And I would argue that drugs are one of those things.

Constant sobriety should be among your top priorities in life.

You have to explain why occasional drug use is okay, or... I'll never understand why it's okay. You can act like I'm never gonna listen, because you can't just let the old me die, but I'm listening.

So, tell me, why is it that being straight-edge is so much worse than doing your precious drugs?
Why is sobriety not good enough for you?

And yes, Cindy, I WILL respond to whatever points you make, because that's how a discussion works.

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When the answer to my explanations on my point is simply, "but no that's wrong," then there's nothing further I can do to continue explaining them.

...Well, if you're wrong, you're wrong, yes?

Quote from: Cindo on October 02, 2015, 01:37:27 AM

Personally I believe that you should be able to put into yourself whatever you wish so long as you're only endangering yourself and others

This isn't the argument, by the way. Because I completely agree with you--I want all drugs legalized, because the state shouldn't be able to tell you what you can and can't put into your own body.

But that shouldn't preclude my ability to call people stupid when I see them doing something incredibly stupid.
Like doing drugs.

Stuffing a razor blade into your throat might do something for you psychologically, but if I see someone doing it, I'm gonna call them what they are. Insane and stupid.

I'm not trying to take away your right to do what you like to do. I'm just trying to explain to you why what you're doing is stupid, and I'm asking you why it isn't stupid. Just because you aren't dead or hospitalized the next morning after a night of doing drugs doesn't make taking that risk okay.

cxfhvxgkcf-56:7 · October 02, 2015, 09:26:05 AM

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Verbatim · October 02, 2015, 09:28:30 AM

Quote from: SoporificSlash on October 02, 2015, 09:26:05 AM

So what if I don't give a shit about my own well being?

Then you're an idiot.

You should care about your well-being, unless you don't want to live a comfortable/healthy/safe lifestyle.
And if you don't want that, then yeah, I think you're certifiably insane.

challengerX · October 02, 2015, 09:31:32 AM

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DAS B00T x2 · October 02, 2015, 09:34:11 AM

Quote from: 🔫⛽️🅰🆖 on October 02, 2015, 09:31:32 AM

Quote from: 🍄Tryptameme🍄 on October 02, 2015, 09:22:31 AM
Quote from: 🔫⛽️🅰🆖 on October 02, 2015, 09:11:11 AM
Nasty nobody's using the government definition of "hard drug". Or at least I'm not.
what is your username even supposed to mean
Revolver gang

oh

I thought it was spelling out "gon' gas a nig."

Verbatim · October 02, 2015, 09:36:02 AM

Quote from: 🍄Tryptameme🍄 on October 02, 2015, 09:20:10 AM

wait is that post directed towards me

i thought you cared?

I care in the sense that if I catch one of my friends smoking pot, I'm gonna berate them.
If I catch them snorting crack, I may just murder them.

But I mean, no, all drugs are still inexorably stupid to me.

T6 · October 02, 2015, 09:36:55 AM

Bunglers
logic?

verb, pls

Jim · October 02, 2015, 09:38:01 AM

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Verbatim · October 02, 2015, 09:39:40 AM

Quote from: Awoo~ on October 02, 2015, 02:15:05 AM

It's been almost a full year that I've been drug free now because of work

Good on you.

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however, the first time I did shrooms I was going through a bout of depression, suicidal thoughts and all that shit, and while my evidence is anecdotal, using the drug not only made me feel good during the use, but my mood improved overall for the next few months afterwords as well. I also remember someone here linking an article about studies finding that shrooms could actually serve as good way to help those out with depression. So, my question is, why do you have a problem with altering brain chemistry even if it could lead to better feelings? Just as you say that drugs produce an artificial happiness, depression causes its own negative artificial feelings that can affect anyone regardless of how good or bad your life is.

I have no problem with medical use of drugs. I'm on about recreational use.

I'd hate for "I'm depressed" or "I'm anxious" to become an excuse to use drugs.

I'm very depressed, I'm socially anxious, everybody knows this.
Yet I've never done drugs and I never will.

If you can find something other than drugs to alleviate your depression, do that instead. That's what I say. But if it's all you have right now, I don't have much to say to that.

Dopameme · October 02, 2015, 09:44:09 AM

verby i'm going to properly respond to that post once i'm not on my phone

but what i can add now is that i really don't believe in the everything in moderation mantra, because there are some substances that i believe should not be tried even once, i.e. Krokodil, heroin, most dissociatives, and a few others

Verbatim · October 02, 2015, 09:45:38 AM

Quote from: 🍄Tryptameme🍄 on October 02, 2015, 09:44:09 AM

verby i'm going to properly respond to that post once i'm not on my phone

but what i can add now is that i really don't believe in the everything in moderation mantra, because there are some substances that i believe should not be tried even once, i.e. Krokodil, heroin, most dissociatives, and a few others

That doesn't make sense, but okay.

🍁 Aria 🔮 · October 02, 2015, 09:46:24 AM

Ecstasy will turn you into a retard tbh

Just saying

Verbatim · October 02, 2015, 09:47:00 AM

Quote from: Prime Uta on October 02, 2015, 09:46:24 AM

Ecstasy will turn you into a retard tbh

Just saying

No kidding.

Jim · October 02, 2015, 09:47:12 AM

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T6 · October 02, 2015, 09:47:51 AM

Quote from: 🍄Tryptameme🍄 on October 02, 2015, 09:44:09 AM

mantra

Verbatim · October 02, 2015, 09:48:47 AM

EVERY DRUG SHOULD BE TRIED ONCE

YOU CLOSED-MINDED FUCK

🍁 Aria 🔮 · October 02, 2015, 09:49:32 AM

Quote from: Freddie Puss on October 02, 2015, 09:47:12 AM

Quote from: Prime Uta on October 02, 2015, 09:46:24 AM
Ecstasy will turn you into a retard tbh

Just saying
Is that what happened to you?

There's a difference between not caring and literally being mentally challenged for the result of your life.

Jim · October 02, 2015, 09:50:43 AM

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🍁 Aria 🔮 · October 02, 2015, 09:51:09 AM

Quote from: Freddie Puss on October 02, 2015, 09:50:43 AM

Quote from: Prime Uta on October 02, 2015, 09:49:32 AM
Quote from: Freddie Puss on October 02, 2015, 09:47:12 AM
Quote from: Prime Uta on October 02, 2015, 09:46:24 AM
Ecstasy will turn you into a retard tbh

Just saying
Is that what happened to you?
There's a difference between not caring and literally being mentally challenged for the result of your life.
It was a joke

oh

Verbatim · October 02, 2015, 09:51:45 AM

Quote from: Prime Uta on October 02, 2015, 09:49:32 AM

Quote from: Freddie Puss on October 02, 2015, 09:47:12 AM
Quote from: Prime Uta on October 02, 2015, 09:46:24 AM
Ecstasy will turn you into a retard tbh

Just saying
Is that what happened to you?
There's a difference between not caring and literally being mentally challenged for the result of your life.

i'd say apathy is probably a form of mentally-challengedness, tbh

if you're apathetic about something that actually matters