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It's just lazy writing.

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this is dragon ball

its kinda of expected in every other saga

You say that like it's some kind of excuse.

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I'm giving the ROF saga  a go since I skipped it the first time around because ROF was still fresh in my mind. I think it's actually pretty good, the differences from the movie make it worth it.


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Jacob Potila was actually a Jacob Flotilla of lies.- WarTurkey
He admits it



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I didn't expect Jaco to appear and I'm a fanboy of his manga so I freaked a little


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Anyone else following the manga? I think the U6 arc is better in it aside from SSG returning over Kaioken, and I think the Black arc is worse, like seriously

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Goku and Black never fight in it

https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/chapters/dragon-ball-super


 
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Anyone else following the manga? I think the U6 arc is better in it aside from SSG returning over Kaioken, and I think the Black arc is worse, like seriously

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Goku and Black never fight in it

https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/chapters/dragon-ball-super

ssg is the dopest transformation though


 
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damn i really want super saiyan goku black to be in xenoverse 2


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Anyone else following the manga? I think the U6 arc is better in it aside from SSG returning over Kaioken, and I think the Black arc is worse, like seriously

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Goku and Black never fight in it

https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/chapters/dragon-ball-super

ssg is the dopest transformation though
Don't get me wrong, I love SSG, but I think bringing the Kaioken back was cooler, though taking it to x10 was retarded


 
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Anyone else following the manga? I think the U6 arc is better in it aside from SSG returning over Kaioken, and I think the Black arc is worse, like seriously

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Goku and Black never fight in it

https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/chapters/dragon-ball-super

ssg is the dopest transformation though
Don't get me wrong, I love SSG, but I think bringing the Kaioken back was cooler, though taking it to x10 was retarded

why cant we have both


 
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making super an anime series was a mistake

they should have kept the movie format and expanded the story in the same way they are for the manga. it would space out the story nicely as well.


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Anyone else following the manga? I think the U6 arc is better in it aside from SSG returning over Kaioken, and I think the Black arc is worse, like seriously

Spoiler
Goku and Black never fight in it

https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/chapters/dragon-ball-super

ssg is the dopest transformation though
Don't get me wrong, I love SSG, but I think bringing the Kaioken back was cooler, though taking it to x10 was retarded

why cant we have both
If only, I love SSG's in the aura in the show so much and I want it back



I'm just a sucker for the red too


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Jacob Potila was actually a Jacob Flotilla of lies.- WarTurkey
making super an anime series was a mistake

they should have kept the movie format and expanded the story in the same way they are for the manga. it would space out the story nicely as well.

A movie for each saga?

I'd be so down for that. I can't deny that I'm enjoying the Super anime though. I see its issues but it doesn't really bother me. It's just more Dragon Ball for me to just chill back and watch. :)


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Jacob Potila was actually a Jacob Flotilla of lies.- WarTurkey
Anyone else following the manga? I think the U6 arc is better in it aside from SSG returning over Kaioken, and I think the Black arc is worse, like seriously

Spoiler
Goku and Black never fight in it

https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/chapters/dragon-ball-super

ssg is the dopest transformation though
Don't get me wrong, I love SSG, but I think bringing the Kaioken back was cooler, though taking it to x10 was retarded

How can you deny that the scene of Goku shouting Kaioken with the theme song kicking in is all kinds of fucking awesome? Easily fits into my top 5 favorite Dragon Ball moments.

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Jacob Potila was actually a Jacob Flotilla of lies.- WarTurkey
That being said, I've been watching some videos explaining the manga difference today. Weird coincidence that I come into the thread and you guys are talking about exactly that...


 
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making super an anime series was a mistake

they should have kept the movie format and expanded the story in the same way they are for the manga. it would space out the story nicely as well.

A movie for each saga?

I'd be so down for that. I can't deny that I'm enjoying the Super anime though. I see its issues but it doesn't really bother me. It's just more Dragon Ball for me to just chill back and watch. :)

that's what it was supposed to be. that's why bog and rof were movies first. the goku black saga could be its own thing, too

you're incapable of critically looking at a lot of things that would compromise your interests


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Jacob Potila was actually a Jacob Flotilla of lies.- WarTurkey
making super an anime series was a mistake

they should have kept the movie format and expanded the story in the same way they are for the manga. it would space out the story nicely as well.

A movie for each saga?

I'd be so down for that. I can't deny that I'm enjoying the Super anime though. I see its issues but it doesn't really bother me. It's just more Dragon Ball for me to just chill back and watch. :)

that's what it was supposed to be. that's why bog and rof were movies first. the goku black saga could be its own thing, too

you're incapable of critically looking at a lot of things that would compromise your interests

Oh I can look at things critically. Dragon Ball does have a lot of problems but it doesn't really stop me enjoying it. I guess I can look past stuff like that.


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Jacob Potila was actually a Jacob Flotilla of lies.- WarTurkey
I don't see why glaring issues such as bad animation and inconsistencies need to halt my personal enjoyment of the show


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Jacob Potila was actually a Jacob Flotilla of lies.- WarTurkey
Kind of like if there's gone off bread in the cupboard, if I'm hungry I'll just eat it anyway


 
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making super an anime series was a mistake

they should have kept the movie format and expanded the story in the same way they are for the manga. it would space out the story nicely as well.

A movie for each saga?

I'd be so down for that. I can't deny that I'm enjoying the Super anime though. I see its issues but it doesn't really bother me. It's just more Dragon Ball for me to just chill back and watch. :)

that's what it was supposed to be. that's why bog and rof were movies first. the goku black saga could be its own thing, too

you're incapable of critically looking at a lot of things that would compromise your interests

Oh I can look at things critically. Dragon Ball does have a lot of problems but it doesn't really stop me enjoying it. I guess I can look past stuff like that.

you're not looking at it hard enough, then

i mean, i don't understand how goku's shitty fucking character direction in the anime wouldn't bother you, simply because it has the dragon ball trademark -- even though it betrays what originally sparked your interest

i feel like flaws and fuck ups should bother you


 
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i'm interested in seeing how the manga handles the power scaling in the universal survival arc.


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making super an anime series was a mistake

they should have kept the movie format and expanded the story in the same way they are for the manga. it would space out the story nicely as well.

A movie for each saga?

I'd be so down for that. I can't deny that I'm enjoying the Super anime though. I see its issues but it doesn't really bother me. It's just more Dragon Ball for me to just chill back and watch. :)

that's what it was supposed to be. that's why bog and rof were movies first. the goku black saga could be its own thing, too

you're incapable of critically looking at a lot of things that would compromise your interests

Oh I can look at things critically. Dragon Ball does have a lot of problems but it doesn't really stop me enjoying it. I guess I can look past stuff like that.

you're not looking at it hard enough, then

i mean, i don't understand how goku's shitty fucking character direction in the anime wouldn't bother you, simply because it has the dragon ball trademark -- even though it betrays what originally sparked your interest

i feel like flaws and fuck ups should bother you
i can get over super's flaws...except goku's retardness.


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Jacob Potila was actually a Jacob Flotilla of lies.- WarTurkey
making super an anime series was a mistake

they should have kept the movie format and expanded the story in the same way they are for the manga. it would space out the story nicely as well.

A movie for each saga?

I'd be so down for that. I can't deny that I'm enjoying the Super anime though. I see its issues but it doesn't really bother me. It's just more Dragon Ball for me to just chill back and watch. :)

that's what it was supposed to be. that's why bog and rof were movies first. the goku black saga could be its own thing, too

you're incapable of critically looking at a lot of things that would compromise your interests

Oh I can look at things critically. Dragon Ball does have a lot of problems but it doesn't really stop me enjoying it. I guess I can look past stuff like that.

you're not looking at it hard enough, then

i mean, i don't understand how goku's shitty fucking character direction in the anime wouldn't bother you, simply because it has the dragon ball trademark -- even though it betrays what originally sparked your interest

i feel like flaws and fuck ups should bother you


The fact that he is borderline retarded at times does bother me. Part of me misses the messianic monkey jesus that he was back in the original Funi dub but I know that's not the way Goku is supposed to be like. I'm glad at least he's straight up admitting now that he's never done it to be some sort of grand savior, he just wants to fight strong guys.

I know the manga is the true Dragon Ball experience and I'm going to catch up on it eventually. Anime is something I just like to sit back and enjoy for the time being and pick it apart way later on when it's done. If I get too caught up in dissecting it while it's still ongoing, yes it might compromise my enjoyment of it and I don't want that to happen. It's a new Dragon Ball series, of course I want to enjoy it, I've waited for this shit for years. Hell, I even enjoyed GT while watching it and it wasn't until afterwards that I really sat down and thought about it.


Come to think about it, didn't the same thing happen with MGSV?


 
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making super an anime series was a mistake

they should have kept the movie format and expanded the story in the same way they are for the manga. it would space out the story nicely as well.

A movie for each saga?

I'd be so down for that. I can't deny that I'm enjoying the Super anime though. I see its issues but it doesn't really bother me. It's just more Dragon Ball for me to just chill back and watch. :)

that's what it was supposed to be. that's why bog and rof were movies first. the goku black saga could be its own thing, too

you're incapable of critically looking at a lot of things that would compromise your interests

Oh I can look at things critically. Dragon Ball does have a lot of problems but it doesn't really stop me enjoying it. I guess I can look past stuff like that.

you're not looking at it hard enough, then

i mean, i don't understand how goku's shitty fucking character direction in the anime wouldn't bother you, simply because it has the dragon ball trademark -- even though it betrays what originally sparked your interest

i feel like flaws and fuck ups should bother you


The fact that he is borderline retarded at times does bother me.

The point is, it should, because it's a) not how Goku was intended to be written, and b) it makes him and the experience worse.

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If I get too caught up in dissecting it while it's still ongoing, yes it might compromise my enjoyment of it and I don't want that to happen.

See, the problem with that mindset is that it's complacent. You need to, y'know, not be happy with what's being given if you're unhappy with it, not convince yourself you're okay for the sake of maintaining your blissful innocence. Imagine how much happier you'd be if the anime was good; if the anime was the unaltered animated version of the manga.

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Come to think about it, didn't the same thing happen with MGSV?

I see what you're trying to get at, but I just don't think it's comparable. MGSV is only similar to Super in the sense that it deviates from what the source material is/has been/should be. But where MGSV differs is that, while it branches off from what was traditionally a staple of the source material, it manages to be good on its own, or in its own way. Super is a bad anime no matter how you swing it, and the only thing keeping it going is nostalgia. But that doesn't have to be the case, because clearly, from what we see in the manga and the two movies, Toriyama can still make cool storylines that don't feel cheap and easy.


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Jacob Potila was actually a Jacob Flotilla of lies.- WarTurkey
making super an anime series was a mistake

they should have kept the movie format and expanded the story in the same way they are for the manga. it would space out the story nicely as well.

A movie for each saga?

I'd be so down for that. I can't deny that I'm enjoying the Super anime though. I see its issues but it doesn't really bother me. It's just more Dragon Ball for me to just chill back and watch. :)

that's what it was supposed to be. that's why bog and rof were movies first. the goku black saga could be its own thing, too

you're incapable of critically looking at a lot of things that would compromise your interests

Oh I can look at things critically. Dragon Ball does have a lot of problems but it doesn't really stop me enjoying it. I guess I can look past stuff like that.

you're not looking at it hard enough, then

i mean, i don't understand how goku's shitty fucking character direction in the anime wouldn't bother you, simply because it has the dragon ball trademark -- even though it betrays what originally sparked your interest

i feel like flaws and fuck ups should bother you


The fact that he is borderline retarded at times does bother me.

The point is, it should, because it's a) not how Goku was intended to be written, and b) it makes him and the experience worse.

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If I get too caught up in dissecting it while it's still ongoing, yes it might compromise my enjoyment of it and I don't want that to happen.

See, the problem with that mindset is that it's complacent. You need to, y'know, not be happy with what's being given if you're unhappy with it, not convince yourself you're okay for the sake of maintaining your blissful innocence. Imagine how much happier you'd be if the anime was good; if the anime was the unaltered animated version of the manga.

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Come to think about it, didn't the same thing happen with MGSV?

I see what you're trying to get at, but I just don't think it's comparable. MGSV is only similar to Super in the sense that it deviates from what the source material is/has been/should be. But where MGSV differs is that, while it branches off from what was traditionally a staple of the source material, it manages to be good on its own, or in its own way. Super is a bad anime no matter how you swing it, and the only thing keeping it going is nostalgia. But that doesn't have to be the case, because clearly, from what we see in the manga and the two movies, Toriyama can still make cool storylines that don't feel cheap and easy.

That does make sense I guess, but it's not like I can just suddenly switch my brain into disliking it all of a sudden. I still find it entertaining to watch despite being aware of its flaws. I watch anime for entertainment and it fulfills that role for me.


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And I meant the MGSV comparison in that I used to like MGSV while playing it, but grew to hate it the more I thought about it.


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This reminds me, I should start reading Multiverse again.


 
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the only thing i enjoy the super anime for is its slice of life filler episodes, everything else is inferior to the super manga and kai