Spoiler Dragon Ball Thread (DBS episode 122)

Elai · May 14, 2017, 07:26:19 AM

i mean it's kind of dumb how Mystic Gohan was superior to SSJ3 in the Buu Saga but now can only handle SSJ2 but

Spartan · May 14, 2017, 08:26:40 AM

Champa and Vados have pretty good english voices

YouTube

Zonda · May 14, 2017, 09:37:38 AM

Quote from: golden audrey on May 14, 2017, 07:26:19 AM

i mean it's kind of dumb how Mystic Gohan was superior to SSJ3 in the Buu Saga but now can only handle SSJ2 but

There are a fucking tonne of dumb oversights tbh

Elai · May 14, 2017, 11:15:10 AM

Where the fuck is my episode 18 dub?

Maxine · May 14, 2017, 03:35:41 PM

Quote from: golden audrey on May 14, 2017, 07:26:19 AM

i mean it's kind of dumb how Mystic Gohan was superior to SSJ3 in the Buu Saga but now can only handle SSJ2 but

Goku's SSJ2 is stronger than everything we saw in Z at this point.

🂿 · May 14, 2017, 03:46:15 PM

Next time on Dragon Ball Z, Verbatim believes that Deci is gonna explode in 20 minutes, but Deci is calling it a bluff. Will there be a show for this crowd to see or will they all be in major hype for nothing?

Find out, on the next exciting cringeworthy episode of Dragon Ball Z!

Elai · May 14, 2017, 07:18:53 PM

Gotta say, I'm thoroughly enjoying the Super dub so far. The animation looks great. Schemmel and Sabat have amazing chemistry. Seeing the two of the train under Whis is really cool, even though the end of the episode made it perfectly clear how rushed the Resurrection F arc is going to be.

Elai · May 14, 2017, 07:24:28 PM

So Super is confirmed to have a total of 100 episodes? That's disheartening but I did assume the Tournament of Power would be the last arc. I hope to god they continue after the events of Z, or maybe make movie renditions of the Unverse 6 and 7 tournament arc and Goku Black arc with that top-tier animation BoG had.

Maybe even reboot GT with Super in mind taking Toriyama's foundation and building upon it. I love the aesthetic of GT, it's very industrial. With a few tweaks it could be really good.

Spartan · May 14, 2017, 08:03:53 PM

Quote from: golden audrey on May 14, 2017, 07:24:28 PM

So Super is confirmed to have a total of 100 episodes?

Pretty sure as long as it makes money, it'll keep going, unless there's some news that just broke.

Spartan · May 14, 2017, 08:06:28 PM

kek (also has to do with the big spoiler)

Spoiler

Korra · May 14, 2017, 10:29:39 PM

Quote from: golden audrey on May 14, 2017, 07:26:19 AM

i mean it's kind of dumb how Mystic Gohan was superior to SSJ3 in the Buu Saga but now can only handle SSJ2 but

Goku's SSJ2 now is way more powerful than Goku's SSJ3 in Z. Since he had continued training his base form after the end of Z his SSJ transformations have also become more powerful. In any case his SSJ2 is at least as powerful as Z's SSJ3. It's not dumb, it's just not stated overtly.

Maxine · May 15, 2017, 04:57:58 AM

Quote from: golden audrey on May 14, 2017, 07:24:28 PM

So Super is confirmed to have a total of 100 episodes?

no. that's a fake rumour that's been circulating since the very beginning.

in all likelihood there's 20 more episodes of this arc alone, and I strongly doubt that this arc is the end of the series.

Big Boss · May 15, 2017, 06:25:43 AM

Quote from: Deci on May 14, 2017, 03:46:15 PM

Next time on Dragon Ball Z, Verbatim believes that Deci is gonna explode in 20 minutes, but Deci is calling it a bluff. Will there be a show for this crowd to see or will they all be in major hype for nothing?

Find out, on the next exciting cringeworthy episode of Dragon Ball Z!

Don't bring that shit into my Dragon Ball thread, please.

Big Boss · May 15, 2017, 06:28:38 AM

Quote from: golden audrey on May 14, 2017, 07:26:19 AM

i mean it's kind of dumb how Mystic Gohan was superior to SSJ3 in the Buu Saga but now can only handle SSJ2 but

I only just found out that Mystic is actually an old fan-coined term that hasn't been used in official material save for like 1 trading card.

Big Boss · May 15, 2017, 06:31:54 AM

Quote from: Spartan on May 14, 2017, 08:26:40 AM

Champa and Vados have pretty good english voices
YouTube

...I think I actually prefer his XV2 voice.

Elai · May 15, 2017, 06:58:58 AM

Honestly the worst thing Super did when retelling the two movies was bring Goku and Beerus's strength up to universal... it's just too big a power boost, and most of my scaling issues now stem from that.

Big Boss · May 15, 2017, 07:54:08 AM

Quote from: golden audrey on May 15, 2017, 06:58:58 AM

Honestly the worst thing Super did when retelling the two movies was bring Goku and Beerus's strength up to universal... it's just too big a power boost, and most of my scaling issues now stem from that.

And re-animate them pretty poorly.

Elai · May 15, 2017, 08:20:19 AM

Quote from: Big Boss on May 15, 2017, 07:54:08 AM

Quote from: golden audrey on May 15, 2017, 06:58:58 AM
Honestly the worst thing Super did when retelling the two movies was bring Goku and Beerus's strength up to universal... it's just too big a power boost, and most of my scaling issues now stem from that.

And re-animate them pretty poorly.

The blu-ray animation isn't too bad. I mean, obviously a movie's animation is going to be a lot better, especially when they have Yamamuro doing the animation.

I wish we could somehow recreate Bojack Unbound and Fusion Reborn's animation. That would be my one wish.

big sponge · May 15, 2017, 08:41:41 AM

Quote from: golden audrey on May 15, 2017, 06:58:58 AM

Honestly the worst thing Super did when retelling the two movies was bring Goku and Beerus's strength up to universal... it's just too big a power boost, and most of my scaling issues now stem from that.

the manga didn't do that so just chalk it up to another toei thing

Elai · May 15, 2017, 08:45:04 AM

Basically we need to get Toei to invest more in the animation or give the rights to someone else... Resurrection F made 10 times its budget, there's no excuse here.

Elai · May 15, 2017, 08:48:18 AM

Quote from: LC on May 15, 2017, 08:41:41 AM

Quote from: golden audrey on May 15, 2017, 06:58:58 AM
Honestly the worst thing Super did when retelling the two movies was bring Goku and Beerus's strength up to universal... it's just too big a power boost, and most of my scaling issues now stem from that.

the manga didn't do that so just chalk it up to another toei thing

Unfortunately Super is different from Z in that the manga doesn't tell the canon story. We really don't know which story we're supposed to accept, and the manga has its own problems, too.

Big Boss · May 15, 2017, 09:30:58 AM

Since it's a running joke that Goten is Black, I did a little gag strip to show what REALLY happened.

Doctor Doom · May 15, 2017, 09:40:35 AM

I like how the only notable thing about Goten is that he fuses with Trunks. His entire existence revolves around somebody more important and interesting than him.

Elai · May 15, 2017, 03:07:59 PM

Quote from: Doctor Doom on May 15, 2017, 09:40:35 AM

I like how the only notable thing about Goten is that he fuses with Trunks. His entire existence revolves around somebody more important and interesting than him.

I like how your last 6 or so posts in this thread are passive-aggressive commets complaining about Dragon Ball and attempt to make your taste in anime seem more cultured and refined or whatever.

Doctor Doom · May 15, 2017, 03:10:42 PM

Quote from: golden audrey on May 15, 2017, 03:07:59 PM

Quote from: Doctor Doom on May 15, 2017, 09:40:35 AM
I like how the only notable thing about Goten is that he fuses with Trunks. His entire existence revolves around somebody more important and interesting than him.

I like how your last 6 or so posts in this thread are passive-aggressive commets complaining about Dragon Ball and attempt to make your taste in anime seem more cultured and refined or whatever.

Me too.

Maxine · May 15, 2017, 03:46:51 PM

Quote from: golden audrey on May 15, 2017, 08:45:04 AM

Basically we need to get Toei to invest more in the animation or give the rights to someone else... Resurrection F made 10 times its budget, there's no excuse here.

the animation hasn't been bad since the latest arc started, aside from a few brief in between shots here and there

all the fights have looked great

Spartan · May 15, 2017, 05:07:40 PM

Quote from: Madmaxepic on May 15, 2017, 03:46:51 PM

Quote from: golden audrey on May 15, 2017, 08:45:04 AM
Basically we need to get Toei to invest more in the animation or give the rights to someone else... Resurrection F made 10 times its budget, there's no excuse here.
the animation hasn't been bad since the latest arc started, aside from a few brief in between shots here and there

all the fights have looked great

I just hope they stick the landing and have the tournament look good throughout

Elai · May 15, 2017, 07:29:35 PM

Quote from: Madmaxepic on May 15, 2017, 03:46:51 PM

Quote from: golden audrey on May 15, 2017, 08:45:04 AM
Basically we need to get Toei to invest more in the animation or give the rights to someone else... Resurrection F made 10 times its budget, there's no excuse here.
the animation hasn't been bad since the latest arc started, aside from a few brief in between shots here and there

all the fights have looked great

I'm using a different standard than you.

Anything less than what I saw in Dragon Ball Z isn't good enough to me. Yamamuro should be animating far more than he is.

All the characters look lanky and characteristically un-Dragon Ball, to me. The fight scenes have been choreographed decently, but we're still a ways away from where I think we should be. Saiyan Beyond God Goku vs. Frieza (Resurrection F) is the standard we should be meeting every time (minus the garbage CGI, but I don't remember if they used that before Blue/Golden showed up).

I get that the good animators are more expensive but when you look at how Super's reputation was tarnished early on by how bad the animation was, and look at the profit margins of anything Dragon Ball related, there's no excuse NOT to invest in more skilled animators.

Yes, I would agree Super looks good now, but only in comparison to what it started as.

Don't tell me it doesn't look off. They look like Rick and Morty characters.

Elai · May 15, 2017, 08:01:31 PM

Getting my Toriyama/Yamamuro style skill back after many years.

🂿 · May 15, 2017, 09:22:23 PM

Quote from: Big Boss on May 15, 2017, 06:25:43 AM

Quote from: Deci on May 14, 2017, 03:46:15 PM
Next time on Dragon Ball Z, Verbatim believes that Deci is gonna explode in 20 minutes, but Deci is calling it a bluff. Will there be a show for this crowd to see or will they all be in major hype for nothing?

Find out, on the next exciting cringeworthy episode of Dragon Ball Z!

Don't bring that shit into my Dragon Ball thread, please.

It was just a joke... you people have no sense of humor.