Quote from: Branches on April 20, 2017, 02:28:31 PM

It's just lazy writing.

bruh

this is dragon ball

its kinda of expected in every other saga

Anyone else following the manga? I think the U6 arc is better in it aside from SSG returning over Kaioken, and I think the Black arc is worse, like seriously

Spoiler

Goku and Black never fight in it

https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/chapters/dragon-ball-super

Quote from: Spartan on April 24, 2017, 03:28:46 PM

Anyone else following the manga? I think the U6 arc is better in it aside from SSG returning over Kaioken, and I think the Black arc is worse, like seriously

Spoiler

Goku and Black never fight in it

https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/chapters/dragon-ball-super

ssg is the dopest transformation though

making super an anime series was a mistake

they should have kept the movie format and expanded the story in the same way they are for the manga. it would space out the story nicely as well.

Quote from: Big Boss on April 24, 2017, 07:13:25 PM

Quote from: audrey on April 24, 2017, 06:17:27 PM

making super an anime series was a mistake

they should have kept the movie format and expanded the story in the same way they are for the manga. it would space out the story nicely as well.

A movie for each saga?

I'd be so down for that. I can't deny that I'm enjoying the Super anime though. I see its issues but it doesn't really bother me. It's just more Dragon Ball for me to just chill back and watch.

that's what it was supposed to be. that's why bog and rof were movies first. the goku black saga could be its own thing, too

you're incapable of critically looking at a lot of things that would compromise your interests

Quote from: Big Boss on April 24, 2017, 07:20:01 PM

Quote from: audrey on April 24, 2017, 07:18:52 PM

Quote from: Big Boss on April 24, 2017, 07:13:25 PM

Quote from: audrey on April 24, 2017, 06:17:27 PM

making super an anime series was a mistake

they should have kept the movie format and expanded the story in the same way they are for the manga. it would space out the story nicely as well.

A movie for each saga?

I'd be so down for that. I can't deny that I'm enjoying the Super anime though. I see its issues but it doesn't really bother me. It's just more Dragon Ball for me to just chill back and watch.

that's what it was supposed to be. that's why bog and rof were movies first. the goku black saga could be its own thing, too

you're incapable of critically looking at a lot of things that would compromise your interests

Oh I can look at things critically. Dragon Ball does have a lot of problems but it doesn't really stop me enjoying it. I guess I can look past stuff like that.

you're not looking at it hard enough, then

i mean, i don't understand how goku's shitty fucking character direction in the anime wouldn't bother you, simply because it has the dragon ball trademark -- even though it betrays what originally sparked your interest

i feel like flaws and fuck ups should bother you

Quote from: Big Boss on April 24, 2017, 07:34:34 PM

Quote from: audrey on April 24, 2017, 07:23:22 PM

Quote from: Big Boss on April 24, 2017, 07:20:01 PM

Quote from: audrey on April 24, 2017, 07:18:52 PM

Quote from: Big Boss on April 24, 2017, 07:13:25 PM

Quote from: audrey on April 24, 2017, 06:17:27 PM

making super an anime series was a mistake

they should have kept the movie format and expanded the story in the same way they are for the manga. it would space out the story nicely as well.

A movie for each saga?

I'd be so down for that. I can't deny that I'm enjoying the Super anime though. I see its issues but it doesn't really bother me. It's just more Dragon Ball for me to just chill back and watch.

that's what it was supposed to be. that's why bog and rof were movies first. the goku black saga could be its own thing, too

you're incapable of critically looking at a lot of things that would compromise your interests

Oh I can look at things critically. Dragon Ball does have a lot of problems but it doesn't really stop me enjoying it. I guess I can look past stuff like that.

you're not looking at it hard enough, then

i mean, i don't understand how goku's shitty fucking character direction in the anime wouldn't bother you, simply because it has the dragon ball trademark -- even though it betrays what originally sparked your interest

i feel like flaws and fuck ups should bother you

The fact that he is borderline retarded at times does bother me.

The point is, it should, because it's a) not how Goku was intended to be written, and b) it makes him and the experience worse.

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If I get too caught up in dissecting it while it's still ongoing, yes it might compromise my enjoyment of it and I don't want that to happen.

See, the problem with that mindset is that it's complacent. You need to, y'know, not be happy with what's being given if you're unhappy with it, not convince yourself you're okay for the sake of maintaining your blissful innocence. Imagine how much happier you'd be if the anime was good; if the anime was the unaltered animated version of the manga.

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Come to think about it, didn't the same thing happen with MGSV?

I see what you're trying to get at, but I just don't think it's comparable. MGSV is only similar to Super in the sense that it deviates from what the source material is/has been/should be. But where MGSV differs is that, while it branches off from what was traditionally a staple of the source material, it manages to be good on its own, or in its own way. Super is a bad anime no matter how you swing it, and the only thing keeping it going is nostalgia. But that doesn't have to be the case, because clearly, from what we see in the manga and the two movies, Toriyama can still make cool storylines that don't feel cheap and easy.