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I don't understand! Lower-case 't'...or a cross?! Are you saying vampires did this to you?!
why was kefla so damn powerful???

vegito was capable of battling an enraged gohan absorbed buu, who's power reached universal tier (battle of gods goku). keep in mind u6 saiyans hace more base potential than u7 saiyans, so its really not that far fetched.
But this is Ultra Instinct Goku who should be beyond universal, easily GoD-tier. She should've been beaten in like a minute.
The episode took place over two minutes in universe
Hmm, yeah, I didn't really see it that way.


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its worth noting that the kaioken only lasts a heartbeat but goku manages to use it for entire fights at various points during the series

just to put into perspective how fast the characters are


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Goku's been in the god-tier since the end of the Goku Black arc if you ask me. Beerus isn't a great example of god-tier because he's much stronger than the majority of the other gods.

UI Goku is multiuniversal and a 4th dimensional power, and is much stronger than Kefla. That was shown in the last couple episodes from scaling Goku to Jiren. They also explained it pretty well why UI didnt end the fight sooner the second time it showed up. Him thinking before attacking really botched the potency.

I've honestly had no issues with the power scaling in the ToP. Goku was holding back for the majority of his fight against Kale and Caulifla, but he was pushed to God because the U6 Saiyans have far greater potential than U7. After they fused, SSB was necessary to swap hands with base Kefla, but then she turned Super Saiyan which multiplies her already universal+ power by 50 and manages to upstage SSB (this actually also confirms SSB is a x50 multiplier). Following this UI is unlocked again and is capable of bodying Kefla but Goku's thinking gets in the way. His body is dodging without thinking, but not attacking like it was against Jiren. Kefla then gets enraged and goes beyond SSJ2 (so basically x100+++ Base Kefla). Enrage boosts really fuck people over, as seen in Kai when Goham absorbed Buu freaks out over Vegito dicking on him, and starts ripping holes in the universe (which makes him capable of 4th dimensional power, and any amount of 4th dimensional power > infinite amount of 3rd dimensional power). Buu made the jump from Multi-solar system buster + to 4th dimensional because he was angry. Thats like quintillions of times the strength. So imagine what happens when Kefla, a saiyan who in base form, was AT LEAST low-tier multi universal, powers up x100+ that strength, and THEN gets so angry that she could vaporise an UI Goku if she hits him.

its outlandish thag the characters are this strong, but its not out of left field in comparison to the rest of the series. there have been far worse offences in the past


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Has anyone read chapter 30 yet? Jiren actually has a bit of character.


 
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Ultra Instinct Goku vs Jiren was damn good. Catchy song too, which is very surprising for anime. Does it have an OST?


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Ultra Instinct Goku vs Jiren was damn good. Catchy song too, which is very surprising for anime. Does it have an OST?

Not yet unfortunately but people have covered it


 
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Cool new song for the Super OST. Was a surprisngly interesting episode from an animation standpoint.


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Probably posted here before but Banjo just showed me this.

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Gotta say that the tournament is a really good watch. The show went from an occasional thing when bored to waiting for the next episode. Good stuff and the fights are top tier. Goku vs Jiren 2.0 is shaping up to be great.
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Probably posted here before but Banjo just showed me this.

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Gotta say that the tournament is a really good watch. The show went from an occasional thing when bored to waiting for the next episode. Good stuff and the fights are top tier. Goku vs Jiren 2.0 is shaping up to be great.
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Some interesting tidbits from a Toriyama Saiyan Q&A

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Q3: Do all Saiyans become combatants?
A baby's battle power is measured as soon as they are born. If their number passes a certain standard, then they are considered upper-level warriors and immediately raised as a combatant candidate. On the other hand, those whose numbers remain low even after a certain amount of time has passed are regarded as lower-level warriors, and become either engineers or "infiltration babies" that are sent off to a planet somewhere. If they grow strong enough to conquer that planet, then they can return to their home world as a combatant. However, infiltration babies do not have a high survival rate. Raditz was an upper-level warrior and assigned to the same group as Nappa as a proper combatant. Vegeta was latter added to that group too.

Q5: Can anyone become a Super Saiyan if they train?
White box: It's not like anyone can become a Super Saiyan through training and anger. In order to become a Super Saiyan, one's body must contain something called "S-Cells". Once these S-Cells reach a certain amount, a trigger such as anger will explosively increase the S-Cells and cause a change in the body: that's Super Saiyan. Most Saiyans have some S-Cells, although not a great quantity. the reason why Goku and Vegeta's children can become Super Saiyan relatively easily is probably because to a certain extent they inherited a lot of S-Cells, and also because Earth's environment is gentler and easier to live in than Planet Vegeta.

Tori-bot: "Lately everyone becomes Super Saiyan so easily, but it is no simple matter."

Arrow: And how does one increase S-Cells to become Super Saiyan?


Black box: Having a gentle spirit is the best way to greatly increase one's S-Cells, but most Saiyans have trouble with this, which I think is why no Super Saiyans appeared for such a long time and they became the stuff of legend. However, one can't reach the quantity necessary for becoming a Super Saiyan simply by having a gentle spirit, so a certain amount of battle power is indeed necessary. Looked at in this light, it's easy to see why becoming a Super Saiyan came easy for Goku.

Goten picture: "He was able to easily become Super Saiyan thanks to inheriting lots of S-Cells!"

Goku picture: "A gentle heart + high battle power resulted in Super Saiyan!!"


Q9: Was the "legendary Super Saiyan" Freeza feared the Super Saiyan God that appeared in Battle of Gods?
White box: In a certain sense, they are the same person. That is to say, very long ago, before Planet Vegeta was the Saiyans' planet, there was a man named Yamoshi [note: probably a pun on moyashi, Japanese for bean sprouts] who had a righteous heart despite being a saiyan. He and his five comrades started a rebellion, but he was cornered by warriors and became a Super Saiyan for the first time, though his transformation and fearsome fighting style shocked the other Saiyans. Outnumbered, Yamoshi eventually wore himself out and was defeated, but this was only the beginning of his legend. Afterwards, Yamoshi's spirit wandered in continuous search of six righteous-hearted Saiyans, seeking a new savior: Super Saiyan God.

Tori-bot: "And that's why there's that ceremony to become Super Saiyan God."

Arrow: And why did Beerus search for Super Saiyan God?

Black box: Beerus probably picked up on information about Yamoshi's spirit in his prophetic dream. The fact that this is recorded in the Namekian book of legends is likewise because the Namekian elder who wrote it sympathized with Yamoshi's spirit.
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Some interesting tidbits from a Toriyama Saiyan Q&A

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Q3: Do all Saiyans become combatants?
A baby's battle power is measured as soon as they are born. If their number passes a certain standard, then they are considered upper-level warriors and immediately raised as a combatant candidate. On the other hand, those whose numbers remain low even after a certain amount of time has passed are regarded as lower-level warriors, and become either engineers or "infiltration babies" that are sent off to a planet somewhere. If they grow strong enough to conquer that planet, then they can return to their home world as a combatant. However, infiltration babies do not have a high survival rate. Raditz was an upper-level warrior and assigned to the same group as Nappa as a proper combatant. Vegeta was latter added to that group too.

Q5: Can anyone become a Super Saiyan if they train?
White box: It's not like anyone can become a Super Saiyan through training and anger. In order to become a Super Saiyan, one's body must contain something called "S-Cells". Once these S-Cells reach a certain amount, a trigger such as anger will explosively increase the S-Cells and cause a change in the body: that's Super Saiyan. Most Saiyans have some S-Cells, although not a great quantity. the reason why Goku and Vegeta's children can become Super Saiyan relatively easily is probably because to a certain extent they inherited a lot of S-Cells, and also because Earth's environment is gentler and easier to live in than Planet Vegeta.

Tori-bot: "Lately everyone becomes Super Saiyan so easily, but it is no simple matter."

Arrow: And how does one increase S-Cells to become Super Saiyan?


Black box: Having a gentle spirit is the best way to greatly increase one's S-Cells, but most Saiyans have trouble with this, which I think is why no Super Saiyans appeared for such a long time and they became the stuff of legend. However, one can't reach the quantity necessary for becoming a Super Saiyan simply by having a gentle spirit, so a certain amount of battle power is indeed necessary. Looked at in this light, it's easy to see why becoming a Super Saiyan came easy for Goku.

Goten picture: "He was able to easily become Super Saiyan thanks to inheriting lots of S-Cells!"

Goku picture: "A gentle heart + high battle power resulted in Super Saiyan!!"


Q9: Was the "legendary Super Saiyan" Freeza feared the Super Saiyan God that appeared in Battle of Gods?
White box: In a certain sense, they are the same person. That is to say, very long ago, before Planet Vegeta was the Saiyans' planet, there was a man named Yamoshi [note: probably a pun on moyashi, Japanese for bean sprouts] who had a righteous heart despite being a saiyan. He and his five comrades started a rebellion, but he was cornered by warriors and became a Super Saiyan for the first time, though his transformation and fearsome fighting style shocked the other Saiyans. Outnumbered, Yamoshi eventually wore himself out and was defeated, but this was only the beginning of his legend. Afterwards, Yamoshi's spirit wandered in continuous search of six righteous-hearted Saiyans, seeking a new savior: Super Saiyan God.

Tori-bot: "And that's why there's that ceremony to become Super Saiyan God."

Arrow: And why did Beerus search for Super Saiyan God?

Black box: Beerus probably picked up on information about Yamoshi's spirit in his prophetic dream. The fact that this is recorded in the Namekian book of legends is likewise because the Namekian elder who wrote it sympathized with Yamoshi's spirit.

this is pretty cool, but i sincerely doubt toriyama had anything to do with this. he probably hired the people who wrote the daizenschuu to answer these questions.


 
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That was a great episode!

-The Androids playing along with the act, followed by '*I'm Goku!'*

-The Father-Father-Son Kamehameha-Makankosappo

-That subtle clothes beam, noticed it straight away

-Gohan actually doing something

-Seeing Nail and Kami again, though brief was nice

-That final exchange between Beerus and Champa :'(

-Catoblepas is FUCKED

Though, I was hoping that it would be Frieza that saved them from the love black hole. Like, I'd imagine he's such a cold heartless bastard that a love power would literally have no effect on him.


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Goku has the most KO's now in the tournament


 
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-Catoblepas is FUCKED

nah, pepsiman is going to ring out vegeta and be the winner of the tournament. just watch.


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That episode was great, the U6 Namekians were pretty awesome. Definitely the best part of Universe 6 since Hit.


 
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>his fucking name is Hit

Would it make it any worse if I told you his ancestral surname is Man


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What a lame episode

Would have been interesting to see what Quietla actually tried to do before being Zeno'd
Universe 4 should have been wiped a long time ago


 
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Who's left standing at this point? Looks like we're getting close to the big final. Gohan, Vegeta and Frieza have all been slacking off for most of this. Time for them to do some work too while Goku gets ready for Jiren.