Do you subvocalize when reading?

Naru · August 01, 2015, 10:19:10 PM

totes

aREALgod · August 01, 2015, 11:04:43 PM

Reading a book without sub-vocalizing would totally ruin the immersion.

Deleted · August 01, 2015, 11:48:01 PM

That's not normal? Fuck, I've always done that. How do I stop?

Verbatim · August 01, 2015, 11:49:08 PM

Quote from: Majestic Star Dragon on August 01, 2015, 11:48:01 PM

That's not normal? Fuck, I've always done that. How do I stop?

it's normal

like i said, it just hinders speed reading
if you don't care about speed reading, i wouldn't worry about it

A Cheese Potato · August 01, 2015, 11:50:53 PM

Only when reading for entertainment, like a novel or whatever. If it's just for information I speed read it.

DAS B00T x2 · August 02, 2015, 12:02:08 AM

I totally do, and I knimda hate how it males me read slower, but at the same time it adds depth to novels.

Epsira · August 02, 2015, 12:39:10 AM

I'm training speed reading now, and reconditioning subvocalization.
Training speed reading is far less difficult than getting rid of subvocalization.

Desty · August 02, 2015, 04:08:12 AM

It's actually quite simple logic behind it.

Think about how many frames the human eyes catches, and how many of those frames get recorded. I'm sure you can visualize your own home's all rooms, because your brain has deemed it useful enough.

With speedreading, you're not thinking about the words as words, but rather as an image of some kind. You scan the letters, and because you've seen all of the letters before, you can easily understand it.

I'm able to count in my head without saying the numbers. This has given me the ability to think while counting, so it's quite useful.

Flee · August 02, 2015, 04:26:45 AM

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gats · August 02, 2015, 04:28:12 AM

Mr. Psychologist · August 02, 2015, 04:56:44 AM

Depends what I'm reading, a fiction novel for funsies I'll hear the characters voice read their bits and a generic one do the narrating but for reading messages, articles, textbooks and the like I'll just scan the page for the information and that's it.

I prefer the subvocalised stuff because it's a bit more relaxing, whereas the other feels more like a computer ripping information from something as fast as possible.

velox · August 02, 2015, 06:05:55 AM

I can speed read if I want to, but most of the time I read slowly to take more things in. Especially if it is fiction, as I read that for my own entertainment and immersion.

Mat Cauthon · August 02, 2015, 08:13:21 AM

Sometimes, it really depends, if I'm reading The Lord of the Rings I'll hear the voices of the actors. But if I'm reading something that doesn't have an adpation, I won't for the most part.

Aside from the LotR example I don't like doing it.

🍁 Aria 🔮 · August 02, 2015, 09:49:17 AM

I don't know about that. I'm pretty good at speed reading and I sub vocalize. It's just kind of like hitting fast forward, except backwards. I might not visualize the concept, but I will understand the key points of the subject.

Turkey · August 02, 2015, 10:12:22 AM

I've noticed when I speed read, I still subvocalize but I only do it for key words. So when I quickly read that sentence, I hear 'noticed', 'speed', and 'subvocalized'.

challengerX · August 02, 2015, 10:20:40 AM

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R o c k e t · August 03, 2015, 08:35:04 AM

OH NOOOOOOO

Ásgeirr · August 03, 2015, 08:43:21 AM

Sometimes if im reading english subs. But it slows down my reading.

Zonda · August 03, 2015, 09:23:10 AM

I generally do as a habit. If I don't, I'll generally forget everything I read, on top of not getting quite the same level of immersion from stories.

More Than Mortal · August 03, 2015, 09:46:27 AM

Subvocalisation doesn't harm reading speed. Subvocalisation is present in people who can literally "scan" pages.

Desty · August 03, 2015, 11:07:28 AM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on August 03, 2015, 09:46:27 AM

Subvocalisation doesn't harm reading speed. Subvocalisation is present in people who can literally "scan" pages.

How does that work?

Elegiac · August 03, 2015, 11:09:53 AM

Nope.

Super Irish · August 03, 2015, 11:29:52 AM

Quote from: OrbitalMan on August 03, 2015, 11:07:28 AM

Quote from: Meta Cognition on August 03, 2015, 09:46:27 AM
Subvocalisation doesn't harm reading speed. Subvocalisation is present in people who can literally "scan" pages.
How does that work?

I'd imagine it would be very messy to hear.

*Scans page*
*Sub-Vocalised as "SAJDFJLG" when read all at once*

I sorta sub-vocalise, but it's in a sort of neutral accent I've never heard from someone before. If it's something I have to learn, it usually comes out as if one of my teachers was telling me it. If it's a book where the story has been televised or put on the big screen, the voices come out as the actors. It's very weird, especially when there's a difference in character between the book and the screen-version (i.e. Bourbon from Metro, or Benny from FNV) so it can ruin the immersion a bit.

Erives · August 03, 2015, 03:29:12 PM

Shit I do that.